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Super Smash Bros. for 3DS & Wii U Thread XIII: Leak Dynasty
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Storm Kyleis
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:'(
RobFox64tm
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Don't get mad at me; get mad at Nintendo for not giving Lucas the proper exposure he deserves.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
So, Mario Kart 8 is apparently gonna have maintenance tomorrow, some folks are thinking we'll get a Direct tomorrow to coincide with it...
You know, if the Direct does happen, I think we'll get Bowser Jr. in Smash, and they'll simultaneously announce him as DLC for Mario Kart 8. Like how Rosalina was revealed in a Direct revealing her as playable in 3D World and MK8.
You know, if the Direct does happen, I think we'll get Bowser Jr. in Smash, and they'll simultaneously announce him as DLC for Mario Kart 8. Like how Rosalina was revealed in a Direct revealing her as playable in 3D World and MK8.
I don't remember that being done with the best of intentions (but to be fair I haven't played all the way through the game in years).
The12thGripper
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The new patch is out tomorrow, that's why there's maintenance.
[thread=869000]But we already know what's coming for that update.[/thread]
Scooter155
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Not mad at anyone, just messing, that's a quote from The Princess Bride.
Wait, they announced Rosalina in MK8, 3DW, and Smash all at the same time? I thought 3DW was out before she was announced in Smash...
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I doubt that since we haven't heard anything from Nintendo about Direct. I could see that we might get announcement this Friday for next week's Smash Direct.
MrSaturn99
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;_______;
The12thGripper
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We mustn't give up on Lucas!
Gonzo The Great
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I'm looking forward to the new DK/Kirby/Yoshi/Wario stages for the Wii U version. I hope Wario gets a stage based on Wario Land: The Shake Dimension, but that would require Sakurai acknowledging that Wario Land exists.
StreetsAhead
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There's such a wide selection of potential characters for Smash - or rather, characters people want to play as - that no reasonably sized roster is ever going to completely please everyone. I mean, I've seen people say they want everyone from Gumshoe and Tamagon to Jill Valentine and Princess Hilda.
SkullHydra
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SuperSah avoiding another avatar bet? Shocking news.
I wonder if that leak was the last big thing to happen before the release. Do you guys think anything else will leak before the game launches?
I wonder if that leak was the last big thing to happen before the release. Do you guys think anything else will leak before the game launches?
Scooter155
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IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
It's just irrational logic to find something so different and unique, again people thought I was stupid for supporting Dark Pit, Duck Hunt Dog, etc.
My wish list is almost completed but I'm pretty sure that rest of characters except Snake would be in the game in any form.
ShockingAlberto
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I imagine doing that also puts inherent limits on newcomers.
Demon Lizardman
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So is that new Mother stage Magicant? Looks pink enough?
StreetsAhead
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I mean, it sucks. It absolutely does. But reality, budget, and development time pretty much necessitate cuts. Or DLC. I mean, Smash 7 can't realistically have a 70 character roster.
Scooter155
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I'm not working on the game, I don't know the ins and outs, I'm sure it's at least a little bit of work. It really seems, however, like they could, at the very very least, just up-res the assets to HD and keep the moves the exact same and never have to lose a character, with minimal work, doesn't it?
Alternatively, they should just cut the characters I don't like and put Lucas back in the game!
Also, if it had to be a Kid Icarus character (because can copy-paste model, yadda yadda), why not Phosphora and Pandora?
Much better than pit recolor
I`m going to be salty about this for decades.
The only thing going for them is a potentially interesting moveset. Amazon Pandora only shows up for 5 minutes as a boss fight, Phosphora's appearances could be collected into two chapters, and neither is interesting in terms of character. Hades just blows them out of the water.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
What if Lucas was an alt skin for Ness and his moveset was custom moves? That'd be cool still right?
I'm more upset about Ice Climbers. They're iconic to Smash
If he had Lucas as alt then the leaker would noted that. I don't think Sakurai would trying to insult the fan bases.
ShockingAlberto
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I think you have a very idealized concept of how game development works.
Watch Da Birdie
I buy cakes for myself on my birthday it's not weird lots of people do it I bet
I'd actually take Lucas over Ness.
Better design and better voice.
I don't care about Mother in the least though.
Better design and better voice.
I don't care about Mother in the least though.
Jawmuncher
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I just wanted the cat from the Wii's News Channel...
The True WTF character had it made it in.
KelpPlankton
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I just wanted the cat from the Wii's News Channel...
Secret Cat should be an assist trophy and divulge to us the secret details of Smash Bros that we could never otherwise discover.
I miss Secret Cat.
OricWindstar
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Yo bros, anything worth mentioning happen overnight? I'm not expecting anymore leaks, but just to be safe.
Lucas had a lot of unique normal moves. Custom moves only change specials.
KelpPlankton
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The POTD has the 'Omega Mode' thing in it that the leaks have, so any lingering doubters basically have no reason to believe it's still fake.
Other than that, no. But go check out the Pokken Tournament thread for a cool announcement.
Scooter155
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What if Lucas was an alt skin for Ness and his moveset was custom moves? That'd be cool still right?
I'm more upset about Ice Climbers. They're iconic to Smash
Lucas and Ness are completely different! One's a striped shirted boy from a small town who goes on a quest to save the world from an insane and ancient evil from beyond, making friends and discovering his own internal power along the way and the other is... oh... um...
Never mind.
I'm not working on the game, I don't know the ins and outs, I'm sure it's at least a little bit of work. It really seems, however, like they could, at the very very least, just up-res the assets to HD and keep the moves the exact same and never have to lose a character, with minimal work, doesn't it?
Alternatively, they should just cut the characters I don't like and put Lucas back in the game!
Unfortunately, it doesn't work like that. They basically build each character from smash. I mean scratch. Newcomers don't take much more work than veterans.
superNESjoe
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He discussed the harsh and dire conditions of his people, and openly expressed his jealousy of Hyrule. His initial intentions were to save his people, and bring them to a place where they could live in peace.
Obviously those were only his initial rationalizations, things took a considerable turn when he actually went to Hyrule.
I just wanted the cat from the Wii's News Channel...
Don't worry, it'll be in! And it'll be riding inside of the 3DS eShop Bag!
... They're a DLC Alt for Bowser Jr.
It's never going to happen, is it?
Aw, no, I do think it will happen! I really hope so, at least. I think we'll see it next year. Jeez, I hope we do.
The maintenance is for the Mercedes-Benz DLC, so I don't know that we'll get a Direct or any other DLC to go along with it. That'd be great, though. (FWIW, from what I remember of the February Direct, Iwata said that the Rosalina thing was partly a funny coincidence.)
Scooter155
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Either planned to be cut at the beginning, or cut once development started and they realized that every veteran required X amount of work to finish, and had to cut them there.
Like, making up numbers here, each veteran was allocated 100 man-hours to bring into smash 4, so to bring everyone back, it would be 3900 man hours.
Situation A: They only had money for 3300 man hours, so they had to make some cuts, which included Squirtle, Ivysaur, Snake, Lucas, Ice Climbers, and Wolf.
Situation B: They estimated and allocated 100 man hours per veteran, but in reality, it took 115 man hours per veteran. This meant they could only bring over about 34 veterans, which meant that Squirtle, Ivysaur, Snake, Lucas, Ice Climbers, and Wolf had to be cut.
Situation C: A combination of A and B (some cut initially, more cut later due to time restraints).
Once again, all made up in my head, no idea if true, numbers are not real, they may all be coming back, etc.
OricWindstar
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Already saw! So pumped for Pokken Tournament!
Sniff. Project M Ivysaur is MA BOI.
I think it's a safe bet that people will have their hands on the game a week or so before release, but who knows how quickly they'll figure out the entire roster.
I just wanted the cat from the Wii's News Channel...
Which cat was this, BGBW? I don't think I ever used the Wii News Channel much.
Ah, man, it's so good. Just rest it on the stand or your knee (with your knee/foot up) a bit, and use the stylus controls. It's a bit cramp-inducing but it's such an amazing game. I bet it'd be right up your alley, too.
Oh, I forgot all about that. Yeah, so he has motivations for his villainy, like any interesting adversary--but I don't know that he's ever been anything but a villain, regardless.
Scooter155
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Really? How do you know that?
Veterans seem like they'd be a lot less work. The mesh already exists, uprez-ing existing 3D models is easier than making new ones from scratch, and frankly, it's pretty likely they already have a hi-res mesh that they simplified for use in Brawl. The rigging's already done, the UV mapping for textures is already done, a basic texture is already done, a butt-ton of animations are already done (simple things that don't need to be changed like walking, turning, idling, jumping, falling, et cetera. Decisions about what moves the character will have are already made and only need to be updated and tweaked, rather than created from scratch. VO is mostly done... Is that enough? Should I keep going?
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Nothing important other than fact with leaker losing his job and being sued.
He envied the bounteous wind in Hyrule, for the wind brought only destruction to his valley. Unfortunately, that jealousy turned to a lust for power.
On an interesting note, he doesn't seem to actually be willing to kill Link and Zelda in the final battle; notice how he only knocks Zelda out when he attacks her. It seems like he just wanted to die fighting.
I like thinking up obscure Nintendo characters. It's one reason I'm annoyed at myself for not even considering Wii Fit Trainer.
It's related to the Photo Channel cat
ShockingAlberto
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Well, I'm convinced. Sakurai cut veterans out of spite, because otherwise he would have just hit the "Port Up" button.
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