Hot Coldman
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Him and Dan Fortesque were the neat choices I was hoping the game would have more of.
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Him and Dan Fortesque were the neat choices I was hoping the game would have more of.
Because the initial focus of the series was on multiplayer and not single player. Use a more comparable example like Halo. You know, the green armor guy.
Raiden, Big Daddy, Mishima and Dante is not the issue here. It's inflating the roster with crap like 2 Coles (1 is fine), Toro, Fat Princess and stuff that hasn't being relevant since the PS1.
No because I live in the west where most of the world's gamers live. He should have been a japan only character in that case as I've never even heard of it. Definitely should not have been in over Snake or Cloud.
Man, for all the shit I give this game for it's roster, even I wouldn't say Parappa is a bad choice.
A shame Dan turned out to be garbage in-game. I'm pretty much not playing it until Kat comes out.
C'mon Derrick.
A shame Dan turned out to be garbage in-game. I'm pretty much not playing it until Kat comes out.
C'mon Derrick.
Die Squirrel Die
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I don't think the 'only supers get kills' system is bad in theory. I think how they chose to implement it undermined it, the whole timed rounds with no scores until the end thing takes away from the immediacy of the fighting.
For the sequel I propose that they make the main mode a 'first to X score' system, keeping the +2 points for a kill, -1 for a death in tact and then actually surface these scores in as obvious a way as possible. Actually give people feedback as to how well they are doing. Honestly whoever thought having people flail about for 3 minutes with nothing to go on is a fucking moron. Terrible idea, that people immediately said was a terrible idea, but Superbot didn't listen and look where that got them.
I've never heard of pretty much ever single character in SSB, therefore the only character should be Mario. See how this works? Yeah.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Why are people correlating sales alone for icon status? Also why are people using regional arguments?
Hilariously enough that's my argument against PSA's cast - only Toro and Heihachi feel relevant to the Japanese cast.
But see, that's not my point in argument. We're arguing about the functions of a system and stuff like "I like" is irrelevant for arguing a position for that.
Hilariously enough that's my argument against PSA's cast - only Toro and Heihachi feel relevant to the Japanese cast.
But see, that's not my point in argument. We're arguing about the functions of a system and stuff like "I like" is irrelevant for arguing a position for that.
Smash overall has a far better roster but it has its shitty pics as well.
Hot Coldman
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Agent X
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I agree with both of these. The stages are actually very cool. But like you said, it's just a tough game to watch. I had enough difficulty following the action even as a participant in the game.
I agree with this, too.
I like the way that super moves are treated in Capcom fighting games, too. We could take this all the way back to Super Street Fighter II Turbo. The super was essentially an amped-up special move. It was usually more difficult to execute a super, but more rewarding if you actually connected with it, because you often got a cool multi-hit combo, and a flashy graphical display if you used it as a finisher.
I don't like supers as the only KO mechanic, for the reasons you described. I especially dislike "insta-win" supers. They don't belong in any fighting game, let alone one that has such a reliance on supers as a KO mechanic. There's no faster way to sap the excitement out of a fight.
Surely stuff that people like is the most relevant thing in the world.
I'm pretty sure a hell of a lot more people recognize Link, Pikachu, Samus, Luigi and Donkey Kong than fucking Toro. Come on man.
Not that there hasn't been ridiculous choices in those games either like Jigglypuff. They at least made sure they covered most of their legends first though.
Ragingnight
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rofl?
You act like Toro took one of their spots. Big surprise! He didn't.
Like I said, peopel that "HATEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" fighting games shouldn't be complaining about balance, or how "broken" a fighting game is.
Reminds me of the same people who complained that "exploiters" would just exploit mvc2 and spam combos.
PixyJunket
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Snake and Cloud are not Sony characters.
Pretty sure the point went over your head. My point was just because I/You haven't heard of it, doesn't mean it shouldn't be in there.
Also, i have no idea who Samus is, just throwing that out there.
Die Squirrel Die
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Maybe Superbot didn't have much choice but somebody on the Sony production side should have told Sucker Punch to stop being dicks and have some common sense.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
People don't know what they like though - they have a tendency to like shit which promotes more shit being made. Probing something is a much better approach.
But then Smash has characters like Lucas and Marth. My argument in PSA is that it lacked exotic characters save for 1 (Toro).
Dude, your ignorance is not why this roster isn't as good as it can be. There's a difference, the roster has more potential, but it doesn't suck just because "you don't know". Toro is VERY well-known in Japan, and they are a potential consumer just like you are. An entire country. Y'know.
He's talking about the cool guy in orange armor, Metroid. Man, Metroid, he's so boss.
slightconfuse
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i think 2 coles is straching the roster a bit. but i think the roster choices where soe what of a problem.
it seems Sony took money from anyone who wanted to advertise their upcoming game. its shame thy couldnt get, crash,spyro or lara. or even cloud or squall.
it seems Sony took money from anyone who wanted to advertise their upcoming game. its shame thy couldnt get, crash,spyro or lara. or even cloud or squall.
Neither is Big Daddy. That franchise has sold millions more on the 360 lol.
what? How about only one Cole? Putting 2 Coles in demonstrates to people Sony hasn't got the goods.
Whats next Dark Jak?
Leona Lewis
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Very true, I must say. It doesn't seem to apply to their handheld marketing strategy, though. Send Gravity Rush and LBP Vita out to die, yet spend millions marketing Burning Skies, AC3:L and COD:BLOPS
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^ FUCKING THIS
Neither is Dante, Big Daddy and Raiden but they're in there for some reason.
What? Dude I hate Nintendo now and never got into Metroid and even I know who that is.
They couldn't have only one. Sucker Punch said that if they used Cole there had to be two of them. Sony studios usually maintain some sort of control over their IP with this sort of thing, so it's totally up to SP.
Same reason ICO/SOTC characters weren't in - Team ICO didn't want them in
Ragingnight
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but the GAMERS are in the WEST.
BruceLeeRoy
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Great news. Clearly a really talented team that just needs more time. I am glad Sony is giving it to them.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I thought some stages could get some reworking. The good stages I can think of are Sly, Resistance, Killzone, and Ratchet and Clank. However they just have to ruin it with those annoying "boss background" enemies.
Spike looks really odd though. It's as though he was "westernized" into a cartoon.
Well for Sony's sake then I hope the game sold more than 88,000 combined copies over there.
Just throwing it out there, there is no reason why Sony couldn't include both Coles without taking up an extra slot.
Maybe a power up or Super could make him turn into Evil Cole for abit? Just a very late suggestion.
Hot Coldman
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Do we actually know how long they had to work on the game, at all? I'd be curious to know.
Yeahh i've never played one. Seen Metroid threads but don't remember ever entering them. The name definitely rang a bell but i didn't know who it was. Same can be said for lots of their characters in SSB, looking at the character list. Point is, just because i don't know who they are, doesn't mean they aren't good inclusions
2-3 years I think.
They had to ask permission from the studios that made the games. Thats also the reason for no ICO/SOTC reps. Pretty shitty of them in my view but its a good idea to not piss off their studios.
Combichristoffersen
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Sucker Punch demanded it.
OIC.
Capcom, 2K/Irrational, and Konami let them use those characters, that's the difference. Activision and etc are different companies. Different companies, different rules, different costs.
slightconfuse
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doesnt sony own the studios and ip and could veto this. i understand studios waning to maintain characer integrty but having 2 coles in he game is pretty dumb.
do they play differntly at all?
They play rather differently besides the normals. I'm personally still a bit salty about there being two though.
And yes, Sony could veto that, but Superbot isn't Sony.
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