Same with Switch, what I mean is that if they had enough stock it would be outpacing Wii, Switch's stock issues are much worse than Wii's.
No it is not.
Same with Switch, what I mean is that if they had enough stock it would be outpacing Wii, Switch's stock issues are much worse than Wii's.
Same with Switch, what I mean is that if they had enough stock it would be outpacing Wii, Switch's stock issues are much worse than Wii's.
Same with Switch, what I mean is that if they had enough stock it would be outpacing Wii, Switch's stock issues are much worse than Wii's.
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No it is not.
That's an insane attach rate for both Zelda and MK. Would be interesting to know attach rates for Mario 64 and other high profile launch games at this point after launch.
We don't need to know because why. It's simply clear that it's impossible to order more in the same amount of time, or else Nintendo would be doing it and not be so supply-constrained. The only option, therefore, is evidently to stockpile for longer as you say.
No it is not.
God no, my sister couldn't buy me a Wii until November the year after it launched.
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In Japan? probably yes. Outside of Japan: Wut? Switch isn't even close to Wii shortages. For example german amazon has had Switch in stock for week now and Germany is Nintendos second biggest market in Europe.
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In Japan? probably yes. Outside of Japan: Wut? Switch isn't even close to Wii shortages. For example german amazon has had Switch in stock for week now and Germany is Nintendos second biggest market in Europe.
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In Japan? probably yes. Outside of Japan: Wut? Switch isn't even close to Wii shortages. For example german amazon has had Switch in stock for week now and Germany is Nintendos second biggest market in Europe.
Well its already past 200K in Japan with digital, so yes, I'd say its over 600K.
I find it fascinating how you keep coming back to this thread to make people know that ARMS has only sold 600K.
They can't make anywhere near enough to meet demand because of the NAND chip shortage, the fact that demand is far higher than what they can supply is what's keeping it below Wii right now.
In the US the only "reliable" way to get one is to buy a marked up scalped unit.
Doesn't Nintendo still lump all of Europe in with "Rest of World" or "Other" when it comes to their financials?
Every Sale counts and all... but Switch availability in a single country within region that they've never really done well in isn't really a great way to judge their supply chain.
Alright this may be deemed as a bold prediction.
I believe every major exclusive for the Switch will hit a million before 2018(besides Fire Emblem Warriors)
So Pokken, XC2, Mario and Rabbids, and Mario O will all hit.
And if Wii could have met it's demand, this discussion wouldn't exist. Switch is doing well, let's not get crazy.They can't make anywhere near enough to meet demand because of the NAND chip shortage, the fact that demand is far higher than what they can supply is what's keeping it below Wii right now.
In the US the only "reliable" way to get one is to buy a marked up scalped unit.
When your console has available stock in one of your biggest markets for weeks after few months since launch you don't have as big shortages as Wii had. Wii was sold out absolutely everywhere during its first months. US Wii shortages ended in 2009
Nintendo has three Markets
- Americas
- The Island nation in which they have their HQ
- Other
The Switch is sold out in the first two
And if Wii could have met it's demand, this discussion wouldn't exist. Switch is doing well, let's not get crazy.
Germany on its own is a fairly small part of Nintendo's market, especially compared to the whole European region and of course the Americas. In the US and Japan the Switch is completely out of stock and I know that it's completely out of stock in plenty of European countries as well.When your console has available stock in one of your biggest markets for weeks after few months since launch you don't have as big shortages as Wii had. Wii was sold out absolutely everywhere during its first months. US Wii shortages ended in 2009
And if Wii could have met it's demand, this discussion wouldn't exist. Switch is doing well, let's not get crazy.
Yes it has shortages. Not as big as with Wii which was the point.
Around that sure. Certainly hasn't sold 1.18 million.
Seems a bit pricey for what it is. I won't bite until I can get for $30, probably will have to go used.Is there really a world where there are 600,000 copies of ARMS just sitting on shelves? Really?
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I never said demand was higher than Wii, I said the stock situation is worse, they can't make as many Switchs as they were able to make Wiis.
Germany on its own is a fairly small part of Nintendo's market, especially compared to the whole European region and of course the Americas. In the US and Japan the Switch is completely out of stock and I know that it's completely out of stock in plenty of European countries as well.
I never said demand was higher than Wii, I said the stock situation is worse, they can't make as many Switchs as they were able to make Wiis.
A very important distinction and totally right.
?. I don't see how it matter at all how much you ship when it comes to shortages. It's all about demand behind those shortages that determines how hard the device is to get and how bad shortages are. Wii was harder to find than Switch while at the same time it had shipped more units.
That's nuts. In literally a third of a year, it's done almost half of what the Wii U did in its lifetime.
Have Zelda and Mario Kart so far (and snipper clips).
Will 100% buy Odyssey on release. But I'll wait for a digital sale on Arms/Splatoon.
Your last sentence is exactly what he said. It was harder to find due to higher demand, but they were still able to put out more Wii consoles during that time than pretty much any other console. Hence the STOCK SITUATION is worse with the Switch. They are severely limited in how many units they can produce.
?. I don't see how it matter at all how much you ship when it comes to shortages. It's all about demand that determines how hard the device is to get and how bad shortages are. Wii was harder to find than Switch while at the same time it had shipped more units.
Surprised about Arms. Is it really that good?
I have a Switch and thought I'd sit that one out. Perhaps I should reconsider.
No it is not.
Surprised about Arms. Is it really that good?
I have a Switch and thought I'd sit that one out. Perhaps I should reconsider.
Nahhh... Just some people that can't handle the success that ARMS is having. Just check the ARMS sales prediction thread, is really hard to eat that amount of crow. ARMS is easily above 1 million right now. The next quarter is going to be above 2 million, and still you are going to see more people in denial mode.Is there really a world where there are 600,000 copies of ARMS just sitting on shelves? Really?
Surprised about Arms. Is it really that good?
I have a Switch and thought I'd sit that one out. Perhaps I should reconsider.
Actually I might inclined to agree with this being worse than the Wii. Big restocks for the Wii happened almost every week, it just sold through them. After the 2-3 months it was more reasonable to find one, and throughout it's launch there were clear days when you could lineup to try and get one. Comparitivley restocking on the Switch has been scattered at best, and seemingly very low units outside of times close to major game launches.
I don't mean to say it would be doing Wii numbers or better, but I do think the supply situation is one of the worst I've seen, considering how far we are from launch now and it's still very difficult to get one, particularly when you consider that this situation is likely to continue through the rest of the year given the ongoing NAND issues.
Really hope we get another 1,2 Switch.
Haven't had this much fun with a party game in years. Years. This one will have a long shelf life for sure, but still a great use of the new hardware and so much potentional for more eye-contact mini experiences for up to 20 players.
That's nuts. In literally a third of a year, it's done almost half of what the Wii U did in its lifetime.
What was Wii U lifetime total?
Is there really a world where there are 600,000 copies of ARMS just sitting on shelves? Really?
There were people buying them at $400, $500 no problem. Fathers, mothers, just regular people. They needed it. They needed that Wii Sports. This kept going for a long time.Man, people have really forgotten how bad the Wii stock situation was. With the Switch, when they arrive in stock at places like Amazon, they're often there for a few hours before they're gone. With the Wii it was minutes if you were lucky. And they were supplying a hell of a lot more if them. That thing was supply constrained until after the 2009 holidays. If you think the Switch's situation is comparable, then you're remembering it wrong.
Your numbers are all confused, and I'm not concerned. Switch is at 4.7m in four months, not three. Nintendo's current projection is not 5.3m more, but that they'll ship 8m in the next nine months. I think they'll hit slightly above that. In a best-case scenario perhaps they could stretch to as many as 11m.
But even that highly optimistic value would not put them behind just PS4 and Wii launch-aligned. It would put Switch behind GBA, PS4, Wii, and 3DS. It'd be above DS, but I predict during the next fiscal year DS would pass Switch again and Switch would pass 3DS again.
Switch will pass Xbox One if they just hit the current target.
We don't need to know because why. It's simply clear that it's impossible to order more in the same amount of time, or else Nintendo would be doing it and not be so supply-constrained. The only option, therefore, is evidently to stockpile for longer as you say.
But there's a limit to how long before launch you can start. A couple months more than usual may be okay, but further than that and you're starting to affect how current the internal hardware design can be. And storage of unsold product incurs additional costs, too. A few extra months of production at current Switch levels would move the needle a little, but then you'd immediately be back to the current situation.