Nah. I have it as Rocky, Rocky Balboa and Creed as my top 3. Then Rocky 2,3,4 round out the rest. We don't talk about 5. Time to take Creed 2 further. Creed wasn't as good as some people make it to be. Michael B. Jordan did an amazing job but the movie itself could have been way better. Hopefully they cut a lot of his relationship with the girl stuff. Focus more on living with Apollo wife who is not his mom, Avon Barksdale who is half brother but wouldn't train him etc.
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Sylvester Stallone to Direct Creed 2
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Nah. I have it as Rocky, Rocky Balboa and Creed as my top 3. Then Rocky 2,3,4 round out the rest. We don't talk about 5. Time to take Creed 2 further. Creed wasn't as good as some people make it to be. Michael B. Jordan did an amazing job but the movie itself could have been way better. Hopefully they cut a lot of his relationship with the girl stuff. Focus more on living with Apollo wife who is not his mom, Avon Barksdale who is half brother but wouldn't train him etc.
The original Rocky is still the best, but Rocky Balboa is excellent.
Creed is far better and has more interesting dramatic twists. In a nutshell Creed is a far better father-son movie than Balboa was and Balboa actually featured the character who was Rocky's own son.
PhantomZone
Member
It feels like a step down, can't believe Stallone shoe-horned himself back in!
Rocky Balboa is a good film and great send off to Rocky.
Creed is a great film, period.
My issue with Stallone isn't him directing. He's not a bad director by any means. It's that Creed was written and directed by Coogler and Stallone was largely hands off. Now that it is back in his hands, is he going to make Creed about Rocky? I don't fucking trust Stallone at all with this. The well for Rocky is dried out. There is nothing left.
Creed is a great film, period.
My issue with Stallone isn't him directing. He's not a bad director by any means. It's that Creed was written and directed by Coogler and Stallone was largely hands off. Now that it is back in his hands, is he going to make Creed about Rocky? I don't fucking trust Stallone at all with this. The well for Rocky is dried out. There is nothing left.
illmatic22
Banned
Downgrade confirmed. I really wanted Cooglar back. Oh well hope for the best.
OrangeAtlas
Member
Creed was special because of Coogler and his relationship with Michael B. Jordan. It felt fresh but familiar in a franchise that desperately needed a unique voice.
I don't doubt Stallone's chops as a director and with this franchise, but I think it'll pale in comparison to what it could be.
I don't doubt Stallone's chops as a director and with this franchise, but I think it'll pale in comparison to what it could be.
ForkNetwork
Banned
I think Creed 2 will be ok.
Which is kind of a bummer when you consider that Creed was great.
Which is kind of a bummer when you consider that Creed was great.
Barren Mind
Member
I absolutely loved Creed and am looking forward to a second installment.
ProtomanNeo
Member
In the wake of the 2016 election, Creed, much like America finds himself haunted by the specter of an old foe. Is he out for revenge? Or is it justice? Is there difference?
The Faceless Master
Member
fuck
this is like George Lucas announced to direct Episode IX
this is like George Lucas announced to direct Episode IX
Fancyarcher
Member
As long as he doesn't have sole-credit as a writer, I think we might be okay, or maybe he'll actually try this time. We all knew Coogler wasn't directing it anyway, so I guess it could be worse.
This is my take as well. Stallone is a legend. Everyone here seems to be forgetting that.
I wonder why Coogler isn't coming back
DontBeThatGuy
Member
Marvel.
Better than JJ Abrams again to be honest.
BoogieWoogie
Banned
Fuck the naysayers, Rocky Balboa was amazing.
It's literally nothing remotely like that.
Jason Frost
Member
Can't wait to see Apollo's ghost.
hodayathink
Member
Coogler's busy. Not just with Marvel (if he were Directing BP2, it wouldn't be coming out until 2021 at the earliest, and he could squeeze another movie in there), but I believe he's had his eye on another project as well. Best case scenario with Coogler is the movie not coming out until 2019, and I guess either WB or Sly don't want that (Stallone already announced a December 2018 release, IIRC).
MisterHero
Super Member
Old Drago is in this right?
How good can a movie be with Old Drago?
How good can a movie be with Old Drago?
DRAGOOOOOO
AuthenticM
Member
I hope the screenplay is real good...
Thanks for the info folks
Coogler is a damn fine filmmaker, and I do wish he was able to make it back, but Stallone is literally the next best person for the job.
HyperZone<3
Member
Is Coogler writing?
Because if so, we're gonna be fine.
Because if so, we're gonna be fine.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Creed was so much cheesier than Rocky Balboa. I still don't know why everybody lost their shit over that movie.
Rumblebones
Banned
What part of it was cheesier?
Soapbox Killer
Grand Nagus
Creed was a very good movie but I still have it tied with Rocky 2. Nothing is ever going to tale the originals spot and Rocky Balboa is probably the second best movie in the franchise.
This commentary makes little sense if any.
This commentary makes little sense if any.
old manatee
Banned
He's going to fall flat on his face following Coogler.
Discotheque
Banned
I think the ATV scene was cheesy as fuck for sure. but in terms of overall sentimentality Creed handled its drama better than Balboa tbh. (although the Balboa ending got me more than any scene in Creed, oh man that was beautiful)
I like both movies a lot tho.
SamuelSupreme
Banned
But that's what it's like in Philly. Dudes really are about that ATV/Dirt Bike life.
Discotheque
Banned
nah not that, its the end of it when Michael B Jordan is shadowboxing and screaming as the ATVs circle him.
it literally looks like a bunch of guys bullying a mentally deranged person haha, was so strange.
old manatee
Banned
This is like when a Kendrick Lamar verse is followed by Jay Electronica.
Gunslinger
Member
Umm....what's wrong with this? Rocky Balboa is one of the best Rocky movie ever made. Right after 1&2. So Creed 2 can be good.
So glad a white man in his 70s gets to continue Creed.
Oh wait. He's literally the worst choice to continue it since what made Creed great is that it effectively ignored how Rocky as a franchise has gone filmmaking-wise for nearly the entire franchise. This honestly is the only franchise where going with an indie filmmaker from Sundance makes sense. Give it to any of those and have Coogler and Stallone produce.
Ugh, this is literally the one thing that'll make me skip Creed 2.
Oh wait. He's literally the worst choice to continue it since what made Creed great is that it effectively ignored how Rocky as a franchise has gone filmmaking-wise for nearly the entire franchise. This honestly is the only franchise where going with an indie filmmaker from Sundance makes sense. Give it to any of those and have Coogler and Stallone produce.
Ugh, this is literally the one thing that'll make me skip Creed 2.
The "Rocky Balboa was a great movie" rhetoric is pretty crazy to me. Yes, it was a vast improvement over Rocky V, but it was nowhere near great. Creed is near the originals level and in some ways it's better. Coogler is a unique talent as a director that can elevate material. The filmmaking in that early fight in Creed made it the best scene in the entire franchise.
Extra Sauce
Member
ehhh
F0rneus
Tears in the rain
Name one movie he directed worse than Lucas's worst. Hell, Staying Alive is miles ahead of Attack of the Clones.
Spectral Glider
Member
I don't get the rampant Creed love either. It was mediocre at best.
Rocky 4 = best sports movie of all time. I can only hope its as good as Rocky 4.