Septimus Prime
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Except Noctis' dad was the king, and it might be a good idea to call upyou knowthe new king to let him know he's now the king. King.
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Tabata Talks Final Fantasy XV Story Imbalances and the Teams Unconventional Decision
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I'm actually sure he wasn't given a doomed project story wise. They just decided to gut it in the most ridiculous way and then give shitty storytelling on top of it. This isn't on the material that was in place.
BrianRoyale
Member
Haha. Perfect.
I guess it became intentional the moment when they realized it was their only option to actually release the game.
Similarly to how the FFXIII team realized that making a linear game was their only option to release that game.
Unfortuntaly the plot in FFXV was not developed as it deserved, they had a nice story to tell but failed to properly tell it, so it wasn't a good decision although it was a forced one.
The game needed way more main missions, Luna implemented as a playable character and at least an other couple of big cities. Unfortunately it didn't happen.
Similarly to how the FFXIII team realized that making a linear game was their only option to release that game.
Unfortuntaly the plot in FFXV was not developed as it deserved, they had a nice story to tell but failed to properly tell it, so it wasn't a good decision although it was a forced one.
The game needed way more main missions, Luna implemented as a playable character and at least an other couple of big cities. Unfortunately it didn't happen.
gcncontroller
Member
Well I like the story but certainly not because of how poorly it was told through the game. I guess it's more like I like the idea of the story. Either way, Tabata and his team might have tried but they certainly didn't succeed. It happens. Live and learn.
zerokoolpsx
Member
The scene with Luna and Ravus isn't from Noctis's PoV, so I call bs.
Valkerionseven
Member
I kinda liked how it was portrayed. I think it would have had less impact if we instantly saw what happened to Gladio, Promto, and Ignis instead of how they came back with something major clearly happening to them.
Not happy that its locked behind a season pass but I liked how Noct clearly was powerless to prevent those things. The other stuff -shrug-
Not happy that its locked behind a season pass but I liked how Noct clearly was powerless to prevent those things. The other stuff -shrug-
What part of only two people witnessed the kings death did you miss in Kingsglaive? One of which died and the other stranded. The news paper he read was propaganda. Insomnias army calling Noctis to tell him his dad is dead is the least of their worries when giant weapons are destroying their homes and killing all of their people. This is such a weird plot point for you to get hung up on.
MegaSackman
Member
Also the empire ploting against Noctis... a complete waste of cinematic.
WickedLaharl
Member
Of course it's bullshit. Anyone that plays the game knows that he's talking out of his ass here
chozen
Member
It's funny the 4chan leak back in June/May said the team had a bunch of Noctis and Luna scenes back then too and they had no idea what to do with them. Spot on.
shark sandwich
tenuously links anime, pedophile and incels
I don't believe this at all.
semiconscious
Member
hell, at this point, the same goes for anyone who hasn't played the game, as well
...Actually we don't know what was there and wasn't when Tabata took over, pretty sure the guy was just rowing with the oars he had. I don't think FFXV turned out the way it did because of his so-called incompetence.
Prince of Space
Banned
Remember when Cor and the bros met up right after the invasion and were all sad about Regis' death, then go their separate ways, and then 10 minutes later Noct gets a call from Cor and he's all "HADN'T HEARD FROM YA, THOUGHT I MIGHTA LOST ANOTHER KING HAHA."
Masterful storytelling.
Masterful storytelling.
McMoneyman
Member
Oh he did? Alright then!
I still can't get over how stupid it was to inform Noctis and his companions about his father's death with a newspaper.
chozen
Member
He could have made better choices however.
Such as Chapter 0 being super pointless, instead of something like the Dawn trailer.
I love you, Taba-chan, but that is BS and you know it. ;P
There are several story scenes in the game that Noctis didn't attend. For example the meeting of Aldercapt, Verstael, Ravus and Aranea.
If you're apprehensive about XV, I'd still play it now. Because the game is going to be a whole lot different in a year from now, and I imagine future versions of the game (Steam + PS5) won't let you play it without the story/character additions.
At least Tabata and Toriyama know how to release games. The series wouldn't release another game if Nomura had to hold up the mantle.
At least Tabata and Toriyama know how to release games. The series wouldn't release another game if Nomura had to hold up the mantle.
If what was the case why is he going to such lengths to defend this design choice.
He obviously believes in it for whatever reason.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
I would believe this bullshit if not for the fact that there are TONS of scenes that are not from Noctis POV in the game... like those out of nowhere scenes from Kingsglaive.
It was to make the story more complete.
lol
Prince of Space
Banned
Well, he wouldn't say that SE pushed them to release this game in 2016 no matter what. SE has done this before with XII and XIII, this company seriously never learns ...
Remake VII is doomed at this point.
DrunkShogun
Member
That excuse would only work if noctis had enough experience if his own. At least it seems we can judge the game without thinking the vision was compromised.
Agree, I wish he'd keep his mouth shut about this and just focus on the DLCs and his new IP. Its laughable at this point, sad =/
Tabata just likes to hear himself speak. You really have to cherrypick the shit he says for intent. (The fact that Tabata is openly addressing the story problems means that he's working on fixing them)
SavoyPrime
Member
"We didnt want to create a comprehensive and perfectly balanced story in this game." Who says that? Especially out loud? LOL
AzureFlame
Member
I'm laughing out loud.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Aren't we still getting story patches to fill these gaps though?
AlexFlame116
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Not the best way to explain this at all.
Lunafreya Nox Fleuret
Member
They said the letters was a romantic thing they promised as children. Sorry, that's just bullshit and an excuse to get out of hot water.
Fbh
Member
LOL, sure Tabata.
Except for those scenes that aren't from the point of view of Noctis. Or the fact that if you had a better story you could have easily told it following this same "noctis point of view" syle (have a character explain things, have them find data files or some video, have Noctis be present when releavant things happen, etc). Or all those things that don't even make sense even though we did see them from Noctis' point of view
Except for those scenes that aren't from the point of view of Noctis. Or the fact that if you had a better story you could have easily told it following this same "noctis point of view" syle (have a character explain things, have them find data files or some video, have Noctis be present when releavant things happen, etc). Or all those things that don't even make sense even though we did see them from Noctis' point of view
I didn't say anything about Nomura.
The series most likely needs completely new management.
Or get Ito out of the basement.
Doc Holliday
SPOILER: Columbus finds America
I just got to what I thought was the halfway point of the story but I was just told to prepare for the last battle.
Wow..is this the shortest numbered Final Fantasy game?
Last one I played was 12, and this one is feeling extremely light on content...especially after finishing Dark Souls 3.
Wow..is this the shortest numbered Final Fantasy game?
Last one I played was 12, and this one is feeling extremely light on content...especially after finishing Dark Souls 3.
