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Team Ninja: We went "hands-on" to get breast physics right in DOA5

Dacvak

No one shall be brought before our LORD David Bowie without the true and secret knowledge of the Photoshop. For in that time, so shall He appear.
They need to make another beach volleyball game, but make it play like Beach Spikers. That'd be my favorite day.
 
Do people go to red tube and tell them to make the porn have a better story? It's just absurd.

The objectives and audience of porn are a little different from fighting games. The end goal of Dead or Alive is not orgasm, and if it is I am staying far away from EVO next year.

Even if a product is expressly designed to cater to male sexual impulses, that's entirely okay. Do you really pick up Playboy and get mad that the articles on politics aren't better?

It is definitely ok, but it's less ok that that is most of mainstream media. There is a wild power imbalance.

Also yeah, Playboy's editorials and articles used to be pretty good. Not so much anymore.


No, you probably buy Time or Newsweek instead. Do I go to Twilight and complain that there isn't enough T&A? For all the talk of growing up, this kind of approach just sounds unbelievably childish.

Your moral outrage at my moral outrage is pretty funny. You're being incredibly dramatic - and actually, Twilight does have some pretty deeply rooted social problems that people have brought up and discussed a lot. Like I said: people are free to criticize media, especially in mediums they love and cherish.

If anyone wanted a game with a different portrayal of women, there are tons of other options out there. Do you think there are no other games that have "moved beyond this?" The entire 8 bit and 16 bit era had absolutely nothing to do with this at all. An extremely small fraction of games have anything approaching racy sexual content.

Racy sexual content =/= bad. I'm definitely not against sexual content, sex, boobs, butts, nipples, swearing, sexin', or booty. A vast majority of games, however, rely on pandering-ass portrayals of women, and there really aren't "tons of other options out there" (inb4 someone posts a quoted image of Alyx, Jade, and Samus or something. The exception proves the rule). Video games, as a medium, is a total boy's club and there really aren't many places for people fed up with that shit to go. I'm not asking for video games to be "taken seriously" or whatever; but it would be cool if they were a bit more welcoming to people who aren't male and 16-35.
 

Oersted

Member
I don't use I Spit on Your Grave, Galaxy of Terror, Raped by an Angel and Zombie Strippers to judge the film medium. Holding up DoA5 over CoD (are you serious?), WiiSports, the Sims and all the over 10+M selling games and the countless indie games that come out.

So a major game franchise is not a good way to judge the game medium? And its in the same league of Raped by an Angel and Zombie Strippers?

If you wondered yourself why nobody takes our hobby serious...
 
I don't use I Spit on Your Grave, Galaxy of Terror, Raped by an Angel and Zombie Strippers to judge the film medium. Holding up DoA5 over CoD, WiiSports, the Sims and all the over 10+M selling games and the countless indie games that come out.

Gaming is not exactly regarded as a cultural pedestal or in the same level as film or books or even tv shows.

Don't mind DOA, I just mind stupid clueless developers .
 

Tomat

Wanna hear a good joke? Waste your time helping me! LOL!
We can't talk about anything any more without getting into some sort of ethical debate can we?
 
Is it really so wrong to appreciate eye candy in a video game?
Are realistic boob physics something a developer shouldn't be striving for? Should we go back to breasts that bounce at the slightest inclination?
 

Ninjimbo

Member
Sooooo...................


Admit it. Who amongst you folks will buy DOA Xtreme3 if they ever make it with these models?
Nah. The game would have to be very good for me to shell out the money.

God, I would love if they made another Ninja Gaiden with Ayane taking over for Ryu.
 

TaroYamada

Member
We can't talk about anything any more without getting into some sort of ethical debate can we?

That's just what I was thinking, try to have a discussion about a game you are interested in and then a bunch of people come into the thread to shit all over something I like. I hate lots of things that get posted on gaf; I avoid those threads.
 

Oersted

Member
You're implying that red tube is evil, and I should be ashamed. It's not. That's my entire point.
Im not,stop making things up. Its gettin old. Im saying its sexist. And comparisons to redtube wont help you to deny it.Case keeps being closed.
 

Shinta

Banned
The objectives and audience of porn are a little different from fighting games. The end goal of Dead or Alive is not orgasm, and if it is I am staying far away from EVO next year.

Well you're in luck, because DoA isn't graphic sexual media like Red Tube. It's just some skimpy outfits and boob physics. It's not really much different than having Megan Fox in Transformers with short jean shorts.
 
So a major game franchise is not a good way to judge the game medium? And its in the same league of Raped by an Angel and Zombie Strippers?

If you wondered yourself why nobody takes our hobby serious...

Major franchise and cheesecake need not be mutually exclusive. Not everything has to be high art.
 
Sooooo...................


Admit it. Who amongst you folks will buy DOA Xtreme3 if they ever make it with these models?

Me. The lady of the house shall partake as well, she's a bigger fan than me.

This isn't an issue of their product though, this is a very basic professional ethics issue. Hiring women specifically to grope them for R&D may be creepy, but not unethical. Groping coworkers for something they didn't sign on for is.
 
We can't talk about anything any more without getting into some sort of ethical debate can we?

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That's just what I was thinking, try to have a discussion about a game you are interested in and then a bunch of people come into the thread to shit all over something I like. I hate lots of things that get posted on gaf; I avoid those threads.

This is a thread about boob physics.
 
That's just what I was thinking, try to have a discussion about a game you are interested in and then a bunch of people come into the thread to shit all over something I like. I hate lots of things that get posted on gaf; I avoid those threads.

What else did you expect in a thread about hands-on boob physics modeling, honestly?


Well you're in luck, because DoA isn't graphic sexual media like Red Tube. It's just some skimpy outfits and boob physics. It's not really much different than having Megan Fox in Transformers with short jean shorts.

Follow that train of thought and you might understand why I think DoA's obsession with boob physics is a bit stupid.
 
Is it really so wrong to appreciate eye candy in a video game?

I don't think is wrong, but you need that there is something really fucked uo when a developer is so clueless about how his work and aspirations are perceived (not mention sexual harassment even if he said in a joking manner)
 

SMT

this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad
Don't let the AV idols fool you. It''s flatter than Kansas down there. I know first hand.

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No... NO!!! This cannot be...

I still love them, they're pretty. :) I knew this goddess Japanese woman once.

I mean, breast physics good, sexism bad, I wonder how ----- would look in clad?
 

TaroYamada

Member
This is a thread about boob physics.

What else did you expect in a thread about hands-on boob physics modeling, honestly?

I expected some detractors, but I didn't expect some of the detractors to stage vapid attacks on the devs and the series by stating they and their series are "stupid", as though that view is somehow definitive. I also personally feel the new physics are better, in previous games I found them obnoxious and embarrassing but judging by the videos I saw I found them more realistic, based on my personal experiences, of course.

I imagine some fans will disagree with me on the previous physics being worse than the new physics, but I think this DOA might bring some of the older fans back.
 
I don't know what I like more, the 'fuck yeah TITS! Blow me!' attitude of Team Ninja, or the poor poor cries of sexism?

Either way this thread brings a gleaming toothy grin to my face.
 

zoukka

Member
Frankly I don't think Team Ninja knows anything about the female form. Their characters look like creepy sex dolls.

Tekken team knows what's up.

I always thought DoA games were inteded to look more fantastical than let's say Tekken. The characters are more anime inspired.

The breasts? If videogame anathomy/physics are anything to go by, 90% of them are created by people who have never seen real breasts.

Whats sexist about this?

Not the backgrounds.
 
I expected some detractors, but I didn't expect some of the detractors to stage vapid attacks on the devs and the series by stating they and their series are "stupid", as though that view is somehow definitive. .

You didn't expect actual criticism?

(for the record, I don't mind the game just the clueless intent)
 

SMT

this show is not Breaking Bad why is it not Breaking Bad? it should be Breaking Bad dammit Breaking Bad

This is funny because you're a Tekken main?

-_-

I love both franchises, I want a crossover. Tekken x Dear oR ArAIBU
 
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