******The game is an RPG guys! I think people are missing that. Enemies have hit-points, you put out damage based on your level/weapons/skills.
Haha
Got a legit laugh out of me.
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The Division beta pushed back, Xbox One Alpha test Dec 9-12
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******The game is an RPG guys! I think people are missing that. Enemies have hit-points, you put out damage based on your level/weapons/skills.
Haha
Got a legit laugh out of me.
Maybe you only get blood on critical hits, because I'm pretty sure when 'a guy on a stream' popped up from behind cover and nailed an enemy with a shotgun blast to the head there was an awful lot of red spray around the hitmarkers.
TheCanisDirus
Member
Yeah, we're realists. It's absurd to semi-realistic shooters without blood effects on enemies. No excuse really... save for "it's the Alpha and it's in full game and can be toggled off for those who dont want it.".
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
Hey man, i made the post. I'll PM it to you.
RazielCuts
Member
It's beginning to sound like a fetish. 'Where's the blood? This is a necessary thing to have...Oh found it, dead bodies on the ground with pools of blood, yes, more of that!'
I'm all for 'realism' (in this futuristic augmented world, whatever realism means here) but to be honest I didn't even notice the lack of blood until he brought it up. I mean the ladies eye was pretty messed up in the helicopter if that's any indication of where they're going. Actively citing no gore/ blood as a con is just strange to me. I guess I've never been the Solider of Fortune type to get hung up on stuff like that.
Tatsumi Oga
Banned
That would at least be something, but personally i didn't see any blood man. Realistic blood effects is what i would like to see, not red spray that looks all off.
To come back to the bullet sponge thing....i hope they change that. At least make a headshot count, that's how it has always been in TC games if i'm not mistaken. Baddies should not be able to take a full magazine or more of bullets to the head.
I perfectly described what i meant with 'more blood' and i see nothing wrong in wanting to see more of that. Has zero to do with a fetish and it's nonsense of you to bring that up if you ask me.
As it is now, there's just zero blood during these intense gunfights and that looks very very off. Let me also mention that i've gotten used to seeing blood in games that contain violence, that contain guns and lots of shooting. It's a given that any Rockstar game (GTA, RDR, MP, games with guns) for example will contain blood or Fallout 4 for example. Boy how off would it look if BGS had totally removed any blood?. Come on now.
Ramocalypse
Member
Has anyone discovered if there are 'dungeons' in the alpha?
Jest Chillin
Member
What you've described in the middle paragraph is basically how the Open World Survival games like DayZ, H1Z1, Ark, etc.. are (though they're usually 3rd Person or toggle between First and Third). Less enemies, anyone can kill you, you die much faster, players fully lootable, etc...
The Division is an Open World TPS RPG with a larger than normal Mulitplayer (I don't know if it's accurate to say MMO as the actual amount of players may be limited). The point is, everything in this game is going to lean towards RPG conventions moreso than shooter conventions and Massive has been up front about this since the reveal announcement.
Samurai G0SU
Member
You know the game is doing well when the compaints refer to small details rather than the core gameplay/mechanics of the game.
Still though. my skittles post would be better than the blood.
Still though. my skittles post would be better than the blood.
keltickennedy
Member
I would say more but dat NDA.
That's either a yes or a no. Hmmm
DigitalHitmann
Banned
If anyone still needs access to the Alpha forums, feel free to PM me your Ubi user name. A direct link to your forum profile would help immensely.
Forum access is granted on an individual basis once the NDA has been electronically signed in game. If you still dont have access post-electronic signature please log out of the forums and log back in as this will clear your cache and reset permissions.
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I just hope the best loot can't only be found in the DZ.
I know in one of the interviews they said the most valuable loot was left there due to the military abandoning it.....but I'm hoping he somehow have alternative ways to finding the best guns. The best guns should be reserved for dungeons/raids if they exist. Maybe even let us find gun parts......because of the games down to earth approach we could find gun stocks, barrels, chambers, body's, grips, triggers, receivers and eventually when you get all the parts to one gun you are able to craft it.
This game could have a killer crafting system with making guns outside of just the standards mods to the guns.
No matter what though, I despise PvP for the most part and always will. When I was 13.....yes it was cool....but I don't feel like working 11 hour days to go into the dark zone to get ganked and lose something I found to find out I got nothing completed or done for the night.
I've played mmorpg's for 14 years. You name any major release and I've played it. At this point its all about the PvE content with some organized PvP on the side. Limiting loot or gear to a certain mode though creates problems. Giving players options to level up or get their gear in the DZ or open world through different methods keeps both sides happy.
PvP'ers can go do what they want in the DZ ganking people everytime a flare hits the sky, while players like my friends and I can just chill, relax and explore the outside world looking for gun parts.....etc.
I know in one of the interviews they said the most valuable loot was left there due to the military abandoning it.....but I'm hoping he somehow have alternative ways to finding the best guns. The best guns should be reserved for dungeons/raids if they exist. Maybe even let us find gun parts......because of the games down to earth approach we could find gun stocks, barrels, chambers, body's, grips, triggers, receivers and eventually when you get all the parts to one gun you are able to craft it.
This game could have a killer crafting system with making guns outside of just the standards mods to the guns.
No matter what though, I despise PvP for the most part and always will. When I was 13.....yes it was cool....but I don't feel like working 11 hour days to go into the dark zone to get ganked and lose something I found to find out I got nothing completed or done for the night.
I've played mmorpg's for 14 years. You name any major release and I've played it. At this point its all about the PvE content with some organized PvP on the side. Limiting loot or gear to a certain mode though creates problems. Giving players options to level up or get their gear in the DZ or open world through different methods keeps both sides happy.
PvP'ers can go do what they want in the DZ ganking people everytime a flare hits the sky, while players like my friends and I can just chill, relax and explore the outside world looking for gun parts.....etc.
TheCanisDirus
Member
I completely understand... and praise them for sticking to their guns! I'd just personally prefer a more "realistic" approach... esp. with the Clancy name association. (which at this point is nonsense)
I feel the atmosphere, setting and art direction REALLY lends itself more towards a one and out, realistic FPS MMO-light.
MechaBowser
Member
I don't want to discuss details because NDA, but fellow Alpha players:
How do I get into the Dark Zone? Do I have to be lvl 8?
Look at your map, find the orange zone, walk that way.
If your not max, just go right big orange area
That's exactly how I feel really. I enjoy coop PvE over PvP... As long as the best PVE item is on par with the best PVP.. then, I have no problems with it...
some people don't like open world online 24/7... meanwhile, I've been hoping for years for a game the size of Fallout/Skyrim being multiplayer just to explorer with buddies and such. That being said, I doubt this game is even half the map size of Fallout, but whatever. it's a start.
Kurt Angle
Member
games good
needs more mission variety
location variety
fast travel/mounts something to travel faster. running to mission markers takes forever
needs more mission variety
location variety
fast travel/mounts something to travel faster. running to mission markers takes forever
That's exactly how I feel really. I enjoy coop PvE over PvP... As long as the best PVE item is on par with the best PVP.. then, I have no problems with it...
some people don't like open world online 24/7... meanwhile, I've been hoping for years for a game the size of Fallout/Skyrim being multiplayer just to explorer with buddies and such. That being said, I doubt this game is even half the map size of Fallout, but whatever. it's a start.
its online and persistent.....they'll expand it....remember during the initial reveal with all the bridges and they mentioned Manhattan?
New York is huuugggeeee
would be badass to fight our way across the bridge.
Vincent4756
Member
One question I have is enemy density. And by that I mean is it like Destiny where if you are exploring will you keep bumping into them or are they spaced out?
And how seamless does the game feel in terms of loading and the day/night cycle?
And how seamless does the game feel in terms of loading and the day/night cycle?
DigitalHitmann
Banned
Contact @UbisoftSupport on Twitter or www.support.ubi.com as they will be able to better assist you in regards to this. Normally you have to go direct through the retailer though. Be prepared to show proof of purchase.
Depends on the area. Freeroam and Darkzone have different NPC densities since in the Darkzone there's PvP. I do think the NPC density in the Darkzone could be upped a little but I'll wait for the beta before really making any noise about it.
1 big load into the game, happens when you join a group not on the same server as you as well, and everything after that is pretty seamless.
keltickennedy
Member
There is fast travel btw. I like that you are always on foot. No mounts. I like the fact that the player can come across other things while on route to a destination....be it loot, open apartment buildings or a small skirmish... etc. I like the feeling of being "in it" at all times.
Especially in Dark Zones. I get some DayZ vibes which is great. Shit can get tense. Better yet, nowhere near as jankey.
IMACOMPUTA
Member
Dude. We are all playing a game where you shoot people in the face with guns. I think there's something wrong with not wanting a realistic consequence for that. Get real.
KINGofCRA5H
Member
Having played a decent amount, I can say this: the potential this game has is immense.
Could you say the potential is...Massive? I'll see myself out.
-tetsuo-
Unlimited Capacity
That's exactly how I feel really. I enjoy coop PvE over PvP... As long as the best PVE item is on par with the best PVP.. then, I have no problems with it...
some people don't like open world online 24/7... meanwhile, I've been hoping for years for a game the size of Fallout/Skyrim being multiplayer just to explorer with buddies and such. That being said, I doubt this game is even half the map size of Fallout, but whatever. it's a start.
Why not just play an MMO?
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Says my account has been locked but I'm not sure why. Was I meant to change my privacy settings before playing this?
quit the game and relaunch....it happens once in awhile.
Yeah thabks, I already tried to do this, but the message never goes through. I have a new Samsung tablet, maybe that's why I'm having trouble.
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Worked. Thanks!
Vincent4756
Member
Thanks!! Hype is through the roof!
Now Hitman, do you know when the team plans to announce anything about the season pass and what it will add?
asocirev
Member
Well said. I am in the alpha but nervous about how much they tout dark zones. I am in this for rich co-op PVE, we'll see...
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
So after completing the main missions, just what is everybody else doing exactly? I've no idea what to do.
Do the main mission again on hard.
Played for about 45 minutes with a friend, went through and completed the main mission. Really fun, great aesthetic and I think this game has a lot of promise.
My biggest criticism is information overload. I know part of this is due to it being a new game, but there is just way, way too much going on on screen. From the enemies having giant health/level/damage counters to the directional cues, contextual menus/info-pop ups... there is just a lot and it can feel overwhelming.
My biggest criticism is information overload. I know part of this is due to it being a new game, but there is just way, way too much going on on screen. From the enemies having giant health/level/damage counters to the directional cues, contextual menus/info-pop ups... there is just a lot and it can feel overwhelming.
I really want to talk about shooting materials and objects in the game. I found and figured out some neat things. Spent a ton of time experimenting.
Nothing negative....stupid NDA.
Someone from UBI needs to come in here and give the ok on good/interesting discussion. Anything negative/controversial could remain in their forums.
Nothing negative....stupid NDA.
Someone from UBI needs to come in here and give the ok on good/interesting discussion. Anything negative/controversial could remain in their forums.
M.W.
Member
Side missions, explore. DZ