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The Doomsday Cult of Bitcoin

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On December 21, 1954, a woman named Dorothy Martin thought the world was going to end. Martin, a Chicago housewife, claimed to have received a message from aliens, warning her of an impending flood that would kill everyone on earth except for true believers, who would be carried away to safety on a flying saucer. For months, Martin had been gathering a band of followers who called themselves the Seekers and quietly prepared for their alien abduction. The Seekers left behind family and friends, sold their possessions, and on December 20, they waited. When midnight came, they waited some more.

When they realized the flying saucer wasn't going to come, and that Martin's prophecy had been wrong, something odd happened: Rather than giving up, the Seekers began furiously calling up newspapers and trying to spread their message as widely as possible. In order to overcome the cognitive dissonance of their situation and convince themselves their sacrifices had been worthwhile, they needed to proselytize.

This is, we now know, a psychologically normal response for prophetic groups whose central predictions fail to come true. And today, you can see something similar going on with another group of failing zealots. I'm talking about the cult of Bitcoin.

For months now, Bitcoin soothsayers have proclaimed that the virtual currency is going to Change Everything. The mass adoption of Bitcoin, they told us, would utterly transform the way the world stores and exchanges value. Government-backed currency would become obsolete. Farmers in Kenya would use the same Bitcoin-based payment systems as cafés in the Mission. With the future of money in the hands of Satoshi Nakamoto's brilliant protocol, inexact central planning would be replaced by algorithmic decentralization.

Of course, none of that has happened. And it's exceedingly likely that none of it will.
You've probably heard about the bankruptcy of Mt. Gox, a former Magic: The Gathering card exchange that morphed into Bitcoin’s largest trading floor before being wiped out by a nearly $500 million heist. But even before that, new knocks to Bitcoin were coming fast and furious: the arrest of Bitcoin prodigy Charlie Shrem; the consolidation of Bitcoin mining operations in a way that threatened to undermine the rules of the currency itself; the successive (and utterly predictable) shutdowns of Silk Road and Utopia. Today, another nail hit the coffin courtesy of Flexcoin, a so-called "Bitcoin bank" that announced that all its users' accounts had simply vanished.

These may seem like isolated incidents, but together, they add up to a massive, damning breach of trust. I don't doubt, as Nobel laureate Robert Shiller put it last week, that "something good can arise from [Bitcoin's] innovations." But Bitcoin itself will never recover from these initial pratfalls. Partly this is because lawmakers and regulators, spooked by early hype and the Mt. Gox disaster, are never going to afford Bitcoin services the kind of autonomy they'd need in order to flourish. Partly it's because there are conceptual problems with the Bitcoin architecture itself. And partly it's because Bitcoin's anarchic roots are too fringe to draw in the masses. In the mind of the average American, the currency is now synonymous with theft, drugs, and techno-wizardry. These impressions do not a global currency make.

As Bitcoin stumbles, the community growing up around it has only become more fervent. Their beliefs are barely falsifiable. Their leaders give lengthy sermons and call fellow adherents "brothers." It has never been enough for this group to have supported the rise of a nifty new experimental currency – what they want, and what they believe is coming, is the dawn of an entirely new age.

You can find many of the loonier Bitcoin proclamations on the r/bitcoin subreddit. (One recent call-to-arms, written by Bitcoin entrepreneur Erik Voorhees, included lines like "We are building a new financial order, and those of us building it, investing in it, and growing it, will pay the price of bringing it to the world.") But they appear in more mainstream places as well. Investor Marc Andreessen's Bitcoin manifesto (in which he said that "the consequences of [Bitcoin] are hard to overstate") appeared on the New York Times's DealBook. Bitcoin Investment Trust founder Barry Silbert
is quoted in places like The Wall Street Journal extolling the virtues of the virtual currency. ("2014 will be the year of bitcoin on Wall Street," he said.)

Ask any of these Bitcoin believers about any of the recent incidents, and they will defend the currency with religious fervor. It's good when black-market drug peddlers and money launderers are taken out of the system, they say, because it makes room for more legitimate Bitcoin operations. Charlie Shrem was a naïf who got ahead of himself. Mt. Gox was taken down by "transaction malleability." The problem is with the immature Bitcoin architecture, not with Bitcoin itself.

But these are head-fakes, meant to distract from Bitcoin's disastrous move to the mainstream while consoling believers about the current state of affairs. There are already horror stories from those who have entrusted their life savings to Bitcoin, only to lose most or all of it when an exchange collapsed. Emin Gün Sirer, a computer science professor at Cornell who has studied the crypto-currency, sums up the state of Bitcoin in a way that almost makes you feel sorry for the remaining faithful:

Bitcoin, at the moment, is in a slump, with a community that has become its own parody … The Bitcoin masses, judging by their behavior on forums, have no actual interest in science, technology or even objective reality when it interferes with their market position. They believe that holding a Bitcoin somehow makes them an active participant in a bold new future, even as they passively get fleeced in the bolder current present.

Watching some of my friends and colleagues fall under the Bitcoin spell has been dispiriting. It's one thing for Andreessen, whose venture-capital firm has millions of dollars invested in Bitcoin projects like Coinbase, to spend his time talking his book. It's another for right-thinking people to conclude that Bitcoin has some kind of real-world potential, based solely on the wide-eyed, group-think-y opinions of the people around them.

The uncomfortable fact for Bitcoin believers is that every major prediction they've made has yet to come true. And as time passes and the inevitable fizzle-out of Bitcoin becomes visible, those believers will splinter. More will drop out of the cult. And the ones who remain will only grow more convinced, more zealous, more eager to share the good news.

After all, the difference between the Seekers' apocalyptic prediction and the Bitcoin dream is that the latter can self-fulfill. The nature of a speculative commodity like Bitcoin is that it essentially runs on hope – the more people who buy the hype, the higher the value goes, and the more firms like Andreessen Horowitz are willing to pump money into strengthening the Bitcoin ecosystem. Wish for the UFO hard enough, and it might actually arrive.

But the Bitcoin dream is all but dead. Now the true believers are trying to cope with their setbacks by increasing their numbers. And if history is any guide, they’ll keep telling you the bright future of Bitcoin is just ahead, long after they've ceased to believe it themselves.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2014/03/doomsday-cult-of-bitcoin.html

Interesting take on the matter. Thoughts?
 

braves01

Banned
Someone should make a crypto currency called buttcoin.

On-topic, this article is 100% on the money. I feel bad for all the people who lost savings betting on bitcoin.
 
Its funny that all the people against Bitcoin seem to believe that one year is all it takes for a revolution. Like it took one year to abolish slavery and one year to give women equal rights with men and one year to stop government corruption, Oh wait....

When Mt. Gox fell the price of Bitcoin dropped but it has already recovered. You sir Mr Kevin Roose are narrow minded and something tells me your an opportunist.

what is it with these bitcoin dudes and slavery
 
When you compare something to slavery it legitimatizes the issue!
the comments are better than the article

Lapdogs are eager to look for ways to pay taxes because you have been so inculcated by the state, which has become your god, that you must pay taxes - that it is the "right" thing to do. I am saying now that the "system" has become destructive to our ends and that it is our duty to resist the tyranny of the murder state.

Again - stop being lapdogs or apologists for the murder state. I know it gives you comfort to think that your musings here will somehow be heard by the murder state and that it won't come after you. That you are safe because you are a compliant, tax paying, fluoride drinking, GMO loving, MSM repeating, murder state lapdog. You are not safe. The state is evil to the core and it doesn't have problems at all with murder lists, stealing your children, spying on your movements and communications, poisoning your food, dumbing you down with state schools and state propaganda (ABC, CBS, MSNBC/MSLSD, FOXN, etc..), murdering your sons and daughters in endless/thoughtless wars to prop their evil corporations (fascist arms of the state) to subjugate the masses of third (and first) world poor, enslaving you with their handouts (from our collective pockets), and leading you to a godless end.

what you do to the least of your people will be visited upon you. consent to the murder state and it will take your sons and daughters, consent to their evil money, and it will enslave you to an ungodly end, consent to their lies and you will become a liar and mouthpeace of their evil ends.

You don't need .gov - it is the big lie. Return to your roots as independent, gun toting, god loving people and the mighty armies will fall before your feet because you are just and good in all things. There is a power which is unfathomably more powerful than the state out there and you derive your power from its eternal bosom. You are a spiritual creature having a physical existence. Nothing in this world can ultimately harm your eternal spirit without your consent. And, when you give consent, it echoes for an eternity.

Paying taxes is unholy and an abomination. Render unto Caesar what is Caesars (NOTHING) and to Creation what belongs to Creation (all things).

one more thing - the demoncrat party is the party of hate and separation. Witness the heightened levels of race hatred since the "savior" took office. Not blaming oblasphemer - he is just another tool of the murder state who revels in his kill lists. The repugnocrats are no different. just shades of the same.


I ask hardcore demoncrats what was the party of Lincoln? They all answer demoncrat. I ask what is the party which passed the civil rights act? They all answer demoncrat. The facts are the opposite but you are all so indoctrinated. Even a cursory examination of the facts would reveal the truth but it has no effect. Their strangle hold is immense. Again, I am not a repugnocrat but I do recognize facts.
 
It's a bit of a shame, because there's some merit to the underlying concept of Bitcoin. It's a currency created specifically for the internet age, and one that could theoretically make the enchange of value far more efficient. But tragically, Bitcoin's biggest supporters are the main reason it can never thrive. People buy in not to use it as a currency, but to try and ride the hype into untold riches. As a result, the price is volatile as fuck & thus impractical to use for its' intended purpose.

Perhaps in a century's time, we'll look back at Bitcoin and see it as ahead of its' time. Or maybe as just a good idea run into the ground by the realities of human interest.
 

East Lake

Member
It probably would have been fine if it wasn't modeled as some libertarian dweeb commodity. Now because some people made money by pure luck they can't let go.
 
C'mon, the first one is a joke...right?
could be

I swear, when will these insane claims stop? Bitcoin is dead? Says who? Some random blogger?

While I do not necessarily agree that the price is directly related to it's success, it is a good judgement of momentum. So far, bitcoin has stayed steadily positive, rising over time, with a few bubbles, followed by corrections that lead to a new stable point. It is now in one of those stable points, which is evident by the rebound from Mt. Gox' fall.

The first bubble was the original rise from less than 1 cent in 2010, with momentum that built to a flash point, driving the price to $30 in 2011, but only for a short time. Mt. Gox was hacked (there is a reason people are glad they are gone...irresponsible amateurs), and the price snapped back down, eventually stabilizing around $2, which was still an increase of a few thousand % over the previous year. After that, there was a long period of stable, constant growth, leading up to early 2013. Early 2013, another meteoric rise began, though not as quickly as the first bubble, and took the price to over $200 before, once again, Mt. Gox crashed, people panic, and the price dropped down to a wildly fluctuating range between $50 and $150, eventually stabilizing just above $100. At this point, most of the community began to abandon Mt. Gox. They were by far the highest volume exchange, but by 2014, they had fallen to #4.

Throughout 2013, bitcoin rose steadily, until news out of China caused another huge leap up, to $1200+. This was followed by a crash related to attempts by the Chinese government to stop bitcoin in their country, which was ultimately unsuccessful. The price stabilized at $600-700 or so. It had began to climb again when the final Mt. Gox fiasco started, but their impact only managed to bring it down to around $500 (except on their own exchange, where it hit the floor, because they had halted all withdrawals), and quickly rebounded to over $600, and is now climbing again.

Believers in bitcoin are not doing it blindly. A large portion of us actually understand the technical reasons that make bitcoin revolutionary, and believe in what it represents. Very few of us expected it to even rise this fast, and are more focused on the long term rather than an overnight revolution in finance. The only fanaticism I can see is related to the fanatical opponents of bitcoin who are fighting tooth and nail to demonize the entire bitcoin community, and protect the legacy banking system for some reason. I know change is scary, but you should really look into what you are trying to protect. Bitcoin, or, more likely, bitcoin 2.0 will be the future, and it is built in a way that gives significantly more power back to the people.

But, good luck with your fiat. You can have a currency that has lost 98% of its value in the past 40 years if you want. I just prefer to use something that isn't manipulated, and inflated, by a small group of fantastically wealthy individuals who only have their own interests in mind.

these bitcoin dudes love their wallotext
 
The Fall of Bitcoin...

THE RISE OF DOGECOIN. MUCH HYPE.

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Damaniel

Banned
Of course they treat it like a cult - they're all hyper libertarian, and you have to have a cult like mentality to believe that economic and social claptrap. Lots of them pray at the altar of Ron Paul with a a cult-like fervor. Conspiracy theories abound among the group as well - in their alternate universe, the NSA is conspiring with the NWO and the banking cartels to bring down Bitcoin because they fear what it represents.

If people weren't losing everything as a result of this, I'd find it fucking hilarious. All I can do in reality is shake my head and hope that eventually this shit collapses so hard that it knocks some anti-libertarian sense into some of the more hardcore believers. At this point, Bitcoin becoming the primary world currency is more likely than most of these people finding reason, though.
 

The Mule

Member
No doubt that confidence in Bitcoin has been rattled as of late, but the fact that after all of the recent bad news its price is still sitting reasonably steady on $600+ says to me that it now has a strong foundation. I don't think it will go away anytime soon, and probably has a lot more growth ahead of it. I could see it hitting ~$10k early-mid 2015 and then flattening out long-term (i.e. decades).

However, the real revolution of Bitcoin is not the currency, its the blockchain. The ramifications of that idea is going to fundamentally change society over the next 20-50 years. It will happen gradually, so it won't seem so revolutionary at the time, but when you stop and look back 20-50 years from now, you'll realise how much has changed.
 
I've never really understood Bitcoin and the more I read about it the more I can't help but feel like it's the most open elaborate internet scam yet.
 

Surface of Me

I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Had some friends that invested in Bitcoin and mining computers, they havent ever brought it up since they first started.
 

Ikael

Member
Cryptocurrency, as a concept, is a great idea. But Bitcoin, like any first attempt, early adopter type of technology, is flawed, perhaps mortally so. The whole "no inflation" idea is stupid and is what is killing it right now. It is not a currency, but an speculative investment.

Call me crazy, but I think that Dogecoin has a far better future and might even have a shot of becoming a somewhat used currency.
 

Nikodemos

Member
Cryptocurrency, as a concept, is a great idea. But Bitcoin, like any first attempt, early adopter type of technology, is flawed, perhaps mortally so. The whole "no inflation" idea is stupid and is what is killing it right now. It is not a currency, but an speculative investment.

Call me crazy, but I think that Dogecoin has a far better future and might even have a shot of becoming a somewhat used currency.
Haha, so the hyperlibertarian utopia roots of bitcoin will eventually doom it, while the joke coin built on real-world fundaments will actually become feasible. Trololol'd by life.
 
Bit-mining seems nearly as hazardous as real ass mining.

AKA, you are going to burn down a apt complex.

This is one thing i dont understand, how the hell does hooking up a shitload of graphics cards 'mine' a coin? This whole things baffles me. Is it like the folding@home thing, only instead of trying to cure cancer you just burn out thousands of $ worth of graphics cards to get some free money? Da fuq..
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
The thing I can't get over is the founder of bitcoin being an anonymous pseudonym "Satoshi Nakamoto".

Pyramid scheme, much?
 

way more

Member
This is one thing i dont understand, how the hell does hooking up a shitload of graphics cards 'mine' a coin? This whole things baffles me. Is it like the folding@home thing, only instead of trying to cure cancer you just burn out thousands of $ worth of graphics cards to get some free money? Da fuq..

I don't get the graphics component of it either. How does that aid in the processing of the transfer data? What is the 3-D visual component in mining?
 

Dmented

Banned
The thing I can't get over is the founder of bitcoin being an anonymous pseudonym "Satoshi Nakamoto".

Pyramid scheme, much?

Uh, doesn't he have like a million bitcoins (since the start of it) and has never used them?

Also, I have half a bitcoin, should I wait for the price to go up (to $800 or more) and then spend it or just do it now? Looking to buy the BenQ XL2420Z from TigerDirect since they use it.
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Uh, doesn't he have like a million bitcoins (since the start of it) and has never used them?

Why would he use them? If he holds onto them he might become one of the richest people on the planet.
 

Foaloal

Member
This is one thing i dont understand, how the hell does hooking up a shitload of graphics cards 'mine' a coin? This whole things baffles me. Is it like the folding@home thing, only instead of trying to cure cancer you just burn out thousands of $ worth of graphics cards to get some free money? Da fuq..

I don't get the graphics component of it either. How does that aid in the processing of the transfer data? What is the 3-D visual component in mining?

"Mining" bitcoins is essentially just performing complex calculations with your computer over and over.

Graphics cards are much better at certain calculations than CPUs are, that's why we have them at all in the first place. Programs/scripts have been written to perform the bitcoin calculations using GPUs which run much faster than any CPU based scripts.

Obviously the more GPUs you have the more power you'll have, so that's why they have those ridiculous multi GPU setups for "mining".

I've never mined virtual currency myself so this might not be perfectly accurate, but I think it's close enough.
 

Ikael

Member
Haha, so the hyperlibertarian utopia roots of bitcoin will eventually doom it, while the joke coin built on real-world fundaments will actually become feasible. Trololol'd by life.

Ain't life the biggest troll of them all? XDand yes, that is precisely what I am predicting.

I mean, it is not as if bitcoin got everything wrong, either. The whole de-centraliced, fee-free type of banking is a great idea, really. And you don't have to be a libertarian in order to see that some central banks do get greedy and print too much money from time to time, to the detriment of their citizens.

A central bank controlled by a computer rather than a human is a concept that I can get behind and that people from ultra-inflactionary countries with trigger-happy moneyprints like Argentina might appreciate too.

It is just that you have to be at least a little tad flexible with inflation, or ideology in general. Really, had it not been by libertarian fundamentalism, would their creators have compromised at least a little bit, Bitcoin could have ended up been something great.

Instead of that, they will be replaced by fucking dogecoin, no less XD
 

BocoDragon

or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Well fuck, he's technically already rich as shit.

Well it's like... why didn't Zuckerberg sell off FB for some sum of money that he could have never spent in his lifetime?

Sometimes when you're riding that billionaire train you don't ever get off... just to see how high you can ball.
 

mclem

Member
. In the mind of the average American, the currency is now synonymous with theft, drugs, and techno-wizardry. These impressions do not a global currency make.

I'm sure they don't particularly mean it, but that does read a bit like "Computer experts are as untrustworthy as thieves and drug dealers!"
 

Nikodemos

Member
It is just that you have to be at least a little tad flexible with inflation, or ideology in general. Really, had it not been by libertarian fundamentalism, would their creators have compromised at least a little bit, Bitcoin could have ended up been something great.

Instead of that, they will be replaced by fucking dogecoin, no less XD
I still can't wrap my head around how people didn't (and some still don't) understand that an inherently deflationary currency is a bad idea.
 

Zeus Molecules

illegal immigrants are stealing our air
It probably would have been fine if it wasn't modeled as some libertarian dweeb commodity. Now because some people made money by pure luck they can't let go.

To be fair a good deal of those people are only ever going to make money due to pure luck and deep down they know it. Its either bitcoin makes the a 100 thousandnaire or they never make any money near that amount for the rest of their lives.
 
I feel like the number of people who genuinely believe bitcoin (in its current form) has the possibility of being a legitimate currency is very, very small, and the number of people who just want to make money (be it through farming or through speculative buying and exploiting volatility in the market) comprises a much larger number when it comes to the realm of "people interested in bitcoin".
 

Makai

Member
I have found this whole affair to be bizarre and hilarious. I think Paile's (RIP) stance on Bitcoin roughly sums up the movement.

PS We should start our own coin: GAF Gold
 

KissVibes

Banned
I sure hope Bitcoin and the like aren't going to crash soon. We're so close to seeing the mass flood of F2P games with built-in mining software and existing F2P games being patched to include it. Some of the plans with this even get as stupid as using games to mine bitcoins to, then sell, to use some of the profit to gather other virtual game currencies and trade them for more bitcoins.
 
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