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[Dingle]

It's open world game with interactivity and customization. You can't say that at all

He sure can. There are tons of modern open world games which aren't riddled with bugs and performance issues (assuming they're not developed by Ubisoft, at least). Being open world isn't an excuse to release a low quality product anymore.

I'm really not the person to be complaining about graphics, especially when it's an open world game and not a corridor shooter, but I'm stunned to see Bethesda not being able to avoid performance issues with the current state of visuals. The game reeks of a rush job, it's either that or they're just incompetent.

 

[Kyoufu]

After playing Skyrim at an average of 5 frames per second on PS3 I say this looks like an improvement.

Well done Bethesda.

 

[Boke1879]

Yes he can. Bethesda's bullshit is not excusable in the slightest.

Yet many in this thread crying foul will buy the game without batting an eye. Maybe I'm wrong but I expect frame drops in open world games this gen. Just too much going on.

Even the people posting the vids of the "terrible" framerate admit the game is fun and will put countless hours into it. At the end of the day that's all that matters. That FR video looked no worse to the FR issues I had at times with Witcher 3. I think in an 80+ hour game it'll hinder my enjoyment very little.

 

[Timeaisis]

Yooo that scope video. Yikes.

 

[dealer-]

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Don't remind me, Christmas 2011 was ruined after running into these problems on PS3. I thought it would be better this time.

 

[SuperBanana]

If true i hope reviewers experience this as well.

Fucking Bethesda.

I feel like this is going to be the game where a lot of reviews won't give them a pass anymore. Last gen lots of games had cruddy frame rate but this gen people want 60, even 30 irks a lot now.

 

[Mithos]

https://twitter.com/ItsameDennis/status/663393520460423168

at least the game isn't buggy

Awesome localization.

 

[Ivory Samoan]

Patch 1.02 required, that's pretty janky FPS to be honest (and I'm a self-confessed Bethdrone bigtime) .

 

[SocksAndShoes]

oh boy

I can deal with framerate drops, but if I lose hours of progress due to a glitch I'm gonna flip the fuck out.

 

[FunkyDealer]

I'm most likely picking this up on Xbox, so I hope that version isn't as unstable. But given that both run at the same resolution has me a little worried. Hopefully it'll be patched before December, which is when I'm likely gonna buy.

 

[Pif]

How's the Xbox version in comparison?

 

[Tagyhag]

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And the ether was such, that Grady did not post ever again.

 

[PnCIa]

Just do the smart thing, everyone in here should know the state of Bethesda releases by now. Dont preorder, wait for a couple of patches and then take a look at it. Thats the smart way to do things nowadays.

 

[fastmower]

Some people seem to be completely oblivious of the fact that "constant complaining" about legitimate grievances is making products (or at least how the companies deal with broken products) better in the end all the time.

I get it completely. I just wish people wouldn't be so hyperbolic and overly nasty about it. I realize that is asking quite a lot of the internet, though.

 

[Bunta]

How's the Xbox version in comparison?

As far as I know, unknown at this point. I think there are some on GAF with the X1 version, but the ability to record gameplay is disabled, so no proof to show.

 

[The Last One]

I wouldn't be surprised if Bethesda straight up ported the game on PS4. Either as part of the Microsoft deal or because of the history between them and PS3, I don't know.

I guess this is really the case.

I feel like this is going to be the game where a lot of reviews won't give them a pass anymore. Last gen lots of games had cruddy frame rate but this gen people want 60, even 30 irks a lot now.

Seriously, after what the press has done to the AC Unity I guess this will be the case.

 

[Collateral22]

Seriously what am I looking at in that scope video I don't get it

 

[Tatsumi Oga]

This Tidux dude, who is he?

If it's truly that bad with bugs and framedrops, i am sure there will be some reviews tomorrow mentioning that. But we'll see, weren't there plenty of people yesterday that were playing both console versions and said it was all good so far?

 

[Kenzodielocke]

I can deal with framerate drops, but if I lose hours of progress due to a glitch I'm gonna flip the fuck out.

This game has a ton of save files, you should be fine.

 

[AcademicSaucer]

To me, it just seems like a bunch of people complaining about stuff that really doesn't matter all that much. Obviously they've worked hard on this game, and if it were that simple to just completely wipe out any frame-rate drops using their current engine, then I'm sure they would have done it.

I'm still quite excited to play this game. I really enjoy the story, setting, and gameplay of the previous Fallout games, and they gave me some of my most memorable gaming experiences to date, regardless of frame-rate drops.

Like most instances in my life, I choose to focus on the most positive aspects of each experience I encounter - and this is no different.

For now, and until the launch of Fallout 4, I will go back to reading my books, spending time with my friends, co-workers, and family, going to school, doing the things I love (all of which have occasional consistency problems ), but that I will enjoy nonetheless.

For those of you who will be playing Fallout 4 on launch, good luck in the wasteland! Don't let the vault door hit you on the way out!

I really cant tell apart joke posts anymore.

 

[afternoon delight]

Don't remind me, Christmas 2011 was ruined after running into these problems on PS3. I thought it would be better this time.

I'm sure by Christmas 2015 you'll be able to purchase your first rounds of DLC for this though so holiday saved?

/sleaze

Always GOTY for these people! Always!

 

[Scientist Supreme!]

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[SolidSnakex]

Single digit framerate drops? Surely it can't be that bad. I think I'll keep my copy sealed until we get a DF analysis.

They managed to hit 0fps with Skyrim PS3

 

[Summer Haze]

Seriously what am I looking at in that scope video I don't get it

If you don't notice it don't try and look for it would be my advice.

 

[GavinGT]

just saw op video.

I.... really don't see what is the big deal here? Looks definitely playable and didn't bother me at all.

You didn't see the second video posted in here, which is now removed. He just spun the camera around and it went to like 16 FPS when he wasn't looking at a wall. And then there's the sniping video, which is still up: https://vid.me/JLcx

 

[Shenmue]

Bethesda got a pass from me for FO3 and Skyrim because of the PS3's stupid hardware decisions. No passes this time if this is true.

 

[eizarus]

Some people on this site are such buzz kills, lol. Constant complainers.

And some people will defend Bethesda even if, instead of the game, they sell you a bag of manure.

If they've got a past history of buggy games with bad fps, which they do, and can't even maintain a solid 30fps (which according to Bethesda was part of the reason that they graphics were dialled back), then we as consumers have the right to, and should, complain.

Greenlighting everything because you like a company and/or their past works is nonsensical and anti-consumer.

 

[Boke1879]

He sure can. There are tons of modern open world games which aren't riddled with bugs and performance issues (assuming they're not developed by Ubisoft, at least). Being open world isn't an excuse to release a low quality product anymore.

I'm really not the person to be complaining about graphics, especially when it's an open world game and not a corridor shooter, but I'm stunned to see Bethesda not being able to avoid performance issues with the current state of visuals. The game reeks of a rush job, it's either that or they're just incompetent.

So now this is a low quality product? What info are you basing this on? You're literally taking a few videos and putting it over the entirety of the game. The person who posted the scope vid even said he's had other fights that ran stable.

 

[Game4life]

TLOU ran like a dream on PS4. What are you talking about? At least in the case of TLOU and Bloodborne, the graphical fidelity was amazing. Can't say the same for F4.

TLOU PS3

 

[Lulubop]

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[RespectThySole]

lol. MGSV's open world is more of a drab, barren wasteland than FO's could ever hope to be.

characters look nice though

MGSV's open world is absolutely dreadful. It's mind boggling that Kojima was working on that all these years.

 

[samn]

Bethesda got a pass from me for FO3 and Skyrim because of the PS3's stupid hardware decisions. No passes this time if this is true.

They didn't deserve that pass. Bethesda chose to release that game on that platform in that state.

 

[Enter the Dragon Punch]

They managed to hit 0fps with Skyrim PS3

I am consistently surprised by how little people respect themselves as consumers. Can't believe that fucking mess sold a few million alone on PS3

 

[Ricerocket]

Seriously what am I looking at in that scope video I don't get it

The game struggles/stutters when he zooms in to aim. That affects gameplay big time and it shouldn't happen for how it looks.

 

[Real Hero]

MGSV's open world is absolutely dreadful. It's mind boggling that Kojima was working on that all these years.

There's nothing dreadful about it

 

[orochi91]

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Lol

 

[GavinGT]

Bsigg12 has the game on Xbox One and says it's a really solid 30 FPS:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=184471862&postcount=9169

I don't fully believe him, but we'll see.

 

[Boke1879]

I am consistently surprised by how little people respect themselves as consumers. Can't believe that fucking mess sold a few million alone on PS3

Because it was fun. Shocking concept I know.

 

[MattXIII]

Def looks rough, will pick up pc version next year sometime after a few patches and the mod scene has grown.

 

[Tagyhag]

I am consistently surprised by how little people respect themselves as consumers. Can't believe that fucking mess sold a few million alone on PS3

To be fair to the consumers, those problems didn't arise until a few double digit hours into the game IIRC.

It was basically like a stealth bug.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

I don't think it's that bad to be honest. Most games have frame rate drops here and there.

If Bethesda can get away with it so can I.

nnnnnnnnnn

 

[Live Free or Die]

I don't see why this is an issue. Most people don't even notice if the framerate in a game is 60, 30 or 20. It's just another reason to complain. Internet hate culture is really starting to annoy me. Do you know how big Fallout 4 is? You can enter a ton of houses. No loading screens. I'm not surprised the framerate dips a little under 30 on consoles. This game is even bigger than Skyrim. At least give it a chance.

This obsession with framerate in a game is getting out of hand. You have developers like Miyazaki openly stating they don't give a fuck about frames per second, but people still complain. Remember Blighttown? The framerate changed that entire area. It added to the challenge. It was a clever way to manipulate the technology and use it to change the rules. But do you think people appreciated it? Naw, they'd rather complain. On PC, people even went as far as casualizing that entire area by making it run at 60 frames per second.

Honestly, people don't really care about the framerate. If it was 60, they'd find another reason to complain. I bet most of you won't even play it on PS4, so why complain? Just play it on pc and install one of those japanese waifu mods and change all the enemies into pikachus or something. jesus christ...

Spot on great post.

 

[DNAbro]

I am consistently surprised by how little people respect themselves as consumers. Can't believe that fucking mess sold a few million alone on PS3

I played 400 hours of it on PS3. I had a save file so large the game refused to load. It was great lol

 

[Gattsu25]

Video in the OP is what I expect out of a bethesda game at launch. But this shit?

here's a video, i've recorder earlier today.

i just uploaded it, so youtube is still converting it, i think.

the framerate war fine until i used the scope, then it dropped significantly, making it hard to get a good shot.

https://youtu.be/aPAH3bFx3VE

This shit is game breaking, IMO.

 

[The Last One]

I am consistently surprised by how little people respect themselves as consumers. Can't believe that fucking mess sold a few million alone on PS3

Most of the buyers didn't know this, and a I don't think that news about FR drops hit the masses.

 

[Mikey Jr.]

I played and beat the entirety of FO3 on PS3.

I am now a hardened vet when it comes to framerate.

Having said that, in any other game, I would probably wait a few weeks before playing so that the game gets a few patches in.

But this is mother fucking Fallout 4. I can't wait. I am part of the problem.

 

[TheStruggler]

for big games like this I am fine with developers using dynamic resolution to hit a better framerate. FPS> Resolution all day for me, dont care if a game is 900p, rather it play smooth

 

[Boke1879]

Bsigg12 has the game on Xbox One and says it's a really solid 30 FPS:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=184471862&postcount=9169

I don't fully believe him, but we'll see.

Yup and maybe in his game he hasn't encountered anything yet or just doesn't care to notice.

 

[Summer Haze]

Spot on great post.

Lol.

 

[fastmower]

There's nothing dreadful about it

I think he's saying there is nothing in the world other than outposts to infiltrate. Fallout 4 has a lot more to do than that.

That said the framerate of fallout 4 on consoles is embarrassing.