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[JoshuaJSlone]

I've gotten used to the new uniform look, but all the toys seem to do an awful job of recreating it. Rather than looking like a repeating pattern, it's like they're wearing thick knit sweaters.

 

[DrForester]

May 2009

 

[Cheebs]

May 2009

All 6 movies are out in blu-ray in may as well.

 

[The Librarian]

May 2009

Damn. Hope to see TNG/DS9 on Blu-Ray as well.

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

All 6 movies are out in blu-ray in may as well.

Not that it sounds like they'll be the theatrical versions rather than the Director's Cuts you can currently get on DVD. Can't get the double dip without going with the originals first, I guess.

 

[DrForester]

Wrath of Khan Opera.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJ1pE4WrBzM

 

[CiSTM]

Currently rewatching DS9 and I have to say I'm tad disappointed. This show doesn't hold too well on a second watch through I knew there was lots of bad/medicore episodes in the show but I didn't remember that first and second seasons were almost unwatchable. Second season does have some very good episodes but even they weren't good as I remembered.

Now it's season 3 time.

We started season 3 with my friends yesterday. My memory said that it was going to rock from the start but again I was wrong. Currently watching episode 9 (Defiant) and up till now there has been about couple of decent episodes and many bad episodes.

 

[Instigator]

Lenghty dax01 post incoming.

 

[Nexus Zero]

I've been watching through DS9 too and it's been fantastic. I always think of ST as a bit plastic but the humanity in this show is incredible, and I love how fleshed out some of the Cardassians are.

 

[JdFoX187]

I'm on the fourth season of Deep Space Nine and it only gets better as it goes along. I still hold TOS and TNG in higher regard, but there is a higher concentration of great episodes in DS9 compared to the other two series.

 

[DrForester]

Star Trek: The Experience re-opening in Vegas.

Star Trek The Experience at the Las Vegas Hilton closed its gates for final time last September, but soon after TrekMovie and the Las Vegas press reported that talks were under way to find a new home in downtown Las Vegas at the Neonopolis center. Now the manager of Neonopolis is talking about opening up in time for the new Star Trek movie in May, TrekMovie has done some double checking to see how doable that is.

What is happening in Vegas is staying in Vegas
In the last few months both Las Vegas Mayor Oscar Goodman and Neonopolis manager Rohit Joshi have spoken openly about the move of Star Trek The Experience to the Neonopolis business and retail center in downtown Las Vegas. The latest comes in an article in the Las Vegas Sun. In it Joshi states that there is now a signed contract with CBS and that he hoping to open up the first ‘phase’ of Star Trek The Experience on May 8th, from the article:

"The Star Trek Experience is slated to open May 8, the same date as the movie’s premiere. The experience will be introduced in phases, with the simpler (and less costly) components, such as the food and beverage, retail and museum to be rolled out first. The entire experience, including rides and an IMAX 4D component should be completed by next year."

Joshi also says he hopes to have ticket prices between $20 and $25 (much less than they were at the Hilton) and he is expecting it to attract 7 million visitors a year (significantly more than were visiting STTE at the Hilton).

All of this sounds great, however, to date, CBS continues to refuse to comment or even confirm that there is a deal in place with Neonopolis. Both the City of Las Vegas and Neonopolis have a vested interest in attracting businesses to downtown Las Vegas and so they are being more open, but there is an element of self-promotion and it is likely their take is a bit rose-colored.

According to sources there is a tentative deal in place but that many of the details are yet to be finalized. Also TrekMovie is told that any opening in May is ‘optimistic’ as is Joshi’s comments to the Sun about a Trek star-studded gala premiere for the Star Trek movie. There appears to be no Star Trek The Experience construction going on at Neonopolis and that the signage for ST: The Experience is still at the Las Vegas Hilton, where they extended their close down until the end of February.

Return of STTE looks good - but not finalized
As of now it appears that Star Trek The Experience is very likely to reopen (in a number of phases) at Neonopolis some time in 2009 (with May be the earliest). The first phase is likely to be just Quark’s Restaurant and Bar and some shops and possibly the ‘Museum of the Future.’ The full experience with rides would be in 2010, but the nature of what those rides and 4D movie are is still being worked out. It is expected that once all the details are nailed down, CBS will finally make an official announcement.

 

[The Librarian]

Currently rewatching DS9 and I have to say I'm tad disappointed. This show doesn't hold too well on a second watch through I knew there was lots of bad/medicore episodes in the show but I didn't remember that first and second seasons were almost unwatchable. Second season does have some very good episodes but even they weren't good as I remembered.

I've watched the series four times now, and it's just as good as I remembered the last time I saw it (except for the first time because everything was knew).

Now it's season 3 time.
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Oh my god, that packaging is so much better than what we got in America.

Also, new license plate (for my nearly two-month old car)!
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And, Cheebs, thanks for starting a new thread for the next trailer.

 

[DrForester]

Now everyone knows you're a sucker who liked Voyager.


NX-74205 (or NCC-75633) is what all the cool license plates say.

 

[Hitokage]

You got the red lettering.

 

[The Librarian]

Now everyone knows you're a sucker who liked Voyager.


NX-74205 (or NCC-75633) is what all the cool license plates say.

The first one was taken, don't know about the second; should've checked. My mom has "NCC1701E" as her license plate, but she wouldn't let me use it. =(

 

[JoshuaJSlone]

So has anyone else been reading Star Trek Countdown? Some pretty weird stuff in there, and I mean aside from how they've used a few TNG characters.

Spoiler

A nova that not only travels at faster-than-light speeds, but is somehow dangerous enough to threaten the entire universe? Romulus considering a war on specifically Vulcan (rather than the Federation in general?) as a method of getting the technology they need to survive more quickly than diplomacy? Vulcan actually choosing to doom Romulus by not helping?

For most of this century the books and comics have had pretty free reign in the 24th century, and they've used this canvas in a pretty big way. But the pre-time travel stuff puts another canon event in the 24th century. At latest the events of the books are still a few years before the events of Countdown, though. I wonder if they'll make some shifts over the next years so things are closer to the state of Countdown, try to put a different spin on the pre-XI events, or... something else.

 

[critch]

So has anyone else been reading Star Trek Countdown? Some pretty weird stuff in there, and I mean aside from how they've used a few TNG characters.

Spoiler

A nova that not only travels at faster-than-light speeds, but is somehow dangerous enough to threaten the entire universe? Romulus considering a war on specifically Vulcan (rather than the Federation in general?) as a method of getting the technology they need to survive more quickly than diplomacy? Vulcan actually choosing to doom Romulus by not helping?

For most of this century the books and comics have had pretty free reign in the 24th century, and they've used this canvas in a pretty big way. But the pre-time travel stuff puts another canon event in the 24th century. At latest the events of the books are still a few years before the events of Countdown, though. I wonder if they'll make some shifts over the next years so things are closer to the state of Countdown, try to put a different spin on the pre-XI events, or... something else.

I imagine they'll completely ignore the events of the books, as they rightly should, as the books have pretty much become all Borg all the time.

 

[Gig]

Man, I can't believe how soon this movie is coming out, I certainly hope it's good (although, that trailer didn't make it look so great).

Also, has anyone seen Robert Beltran on Big Love? Goddamn he let himself go.

 

[Gary Whitta]

Working my way through the complete TNG box set right now... man, there's some great stuff in there, particularly around the 4-5-6 seasons where I am right now. Such a great mix of old-fashioned thrills, drama and thought-provoking sci-fi, even if it does get insanely cheesy at times.

I still have zero doubt that a full Kirk-era reboot was absolutely the right thing to do for the franchise, but at the same time I'd love to see another next-gen franchise back on TV. I don't need anything fancy, just an all-new Enterprise crew and new adventures.

 

[dalyr95]

Dax, we'll probably never get TNG or DS9 on Blu Ray, they were filmed on VHS therefore the max resolution you can get off them is 640x480, unlike TOS which was filmed on film.

 

[adg1034]

My Patrick Stewart man-love has just increased fivefold.

His utterly amazing Sesame Street appearance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6VpmjKZAs

 

[zoku88]

My Patrick Stewart man-love has just increased fivefold.

His utterly amazing Sesame Street appearance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6VpmjKZAs

That's pretty awesome XD

Too bad a kid probably wouldn't appreciate it.

 

[JdFoX187]

A buddy of mine keeps telling me about Trials and Tribble-ations, so I finally watched that the other night. Funny episode. I think this cements DS9 as my favorite "Next-Gen" era show. But TOS is still the best Star Trek series to me.

 

[lunarworks]

Dax, we'll probably never get TNG or DS9 on Blu Ray, they were filmed on VHS therefore the max resolution you can get off them is 640x480, unlike TOS which was filmed on film.

Wrong. They, too, were filmed on film. Post was done on tape. (NOT VHS. Only a complete imbecile would have used VHS for television work.)

 

[Cheebs]

Wrong. They, too, were filmed on film. Post was done on tape. (NOT VHS. Only a complete imbecile would have used VHS for television work.)

The originals are gone, only the tape edited versions used to add the sfx remain, at least that is what has been reported.

Meaning the chances are still pretty much never. Even if they are magically found then they will have to re-edit EVERY episode since the editing was done on tape. And have to redo all the fx due to them being on tape as well.

Aka if they are even discovered it would take endless amount of time to do the work, meaning it won't ever happen.

 

[Cheebs]

Wrong. They, too, were filmed on film. Post was done on tape. (NOT VHS. Only a complete imbecile would have used VHS for television work.)

The originals are gone, only the tape edited versions used to add the sfx remain, at least that is what has been reported.

Meaning the chances are still pretty much never. Even if they are magically found then they will have to re-edit EVERY episode since the editing was done on tape. And have to redo all the fx due to them being on tape as well.

Aka if they are even discovered it would take endless amount of time to do the work, meaning it won't ever happen.

 

[Fix The Scientist]

So i'm lucky enough to be invited to the premier of this on Tuesday... I get to meet the cast, Abrams and everything. I'm not sure how they'll be with cameras etc but i'll try and reveal as much cool info as possible (spoiler tagged).

The function afterwards is "cocktail dress code" .. what is this? A suit and tie?? I will feel way out of my comfort zone dressed like that around Spock and Kirk, how important do people think it is to follow this dress code??? My plan is to look good but not wear a suit jacket, just a jumper or something. Will i get away with that?

 

[adg1034]

The originals are gone, only the tape edited versions used to add the sfx remain, at least that is what has been reported.

Meaning the chances are still pretty much never. Even if they are magically found then they will have to re-edit EVERY episode since the editing was done on tape. And have to redo all the fx due to them being on tape as well.

Aka if they are even discovered it would take endless amount of time to do the work, meaning it won't ever happen.

I actually heard that the same team that was working on the remastered TOS also remastered one TNG episode as a trial, to see if full seasons were even remotely feasible. No clue what happened.

 

[AMUSIX]

Wow, no mention of the recent appearance of the entire TNG cast on Family Guy?

Ok, OK, I know Family Guy gets a lot of hate on GAF, but this episode was hilarious, mostly due to the star trek bits. And they really got everybody (including Denise Crosby). Unfortunately, the episode itself has been pulled from Hulu, and from FOX's site, and from everywhere else, but a few clips are still up...

http://www.hulu.com/watch/65104/family-guy-transporting-the-cast-of-star-trek

http://www.hulu.com/watch/65096/family-guy-drive-thru#s-p1-st-i1

 

[The Librarian]

Has anyone been to the Esurance website to check out that "exclusive footage" of XI? I haven't yet, but have been meaning to do it.

 

[Freshmaker]

My Patrick Stewart man-love has just increased fivefold.

His utterly amazing Sesame Street appearance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hl6VpmjKZAs

http://www.jandrewedits.com/view.php?youtube=tRpcqr89f0E

(For the three people that haven't seen this yet.)

 

[Escape Goat]

Wow, no mention of the recent appearance of the entire TNG cast on Family Guy?

Ok, OK, I know Family Guy gets a lot of hate on GAF, but this episode was hilarious, mostly due to the star trek bits. And they really got everybody (including Denise Crosby). Unfortunately, the episode itself has been pulled from Hulu, and from FOX's site, and from everywhere else, but a few clips are still up...

http://www.hulu.com/watch/65104/family-guy-transporting-the-cast-of-star-trek

http://www.hulu.com/watch/65096/family-guy-drive-thru#s-p1-st-i1

That was good.

"Michael they dont serve McBLTs anymore!"

"But they have all the ingredients for it...



And Denise Crosby getting killed :lol

 

[critch]

So i'm lucky enough to be invited to the premier of this on Tuesday... I get to meet the cast, Abrams and everything. I'm not sure how they'll be with cameras etc but i'll try and reveal as much cool info as possible (spoiler tagged).

The function afterwards is "cocktail dress code" .. what is this? A suit and tie?? I will feel way out of my comfort zone dressed like that around Spock and Kirk, how important do people think it is to follow this dress code??? My plan is to look good but not wear a suit jacket, just a jumper or something. Will i get away with that?

Spoiler everything, but tell us EVERYTHING. Or just me.

For the party: http://lifestyle.iloveindia.com/lounge/cocktail-attire-for-men-440.html

Yeah, Suit.

 

[Walshicus]

No, really. Listen to this guy. I normally hate Family Guy, but this was the funniest episode they have done in a loooong time.

"You'll have nothing and like it!"

 

[AMUSIX]

"You'll have nothing and like it!"

That whole Caddyshack bit was awesome...that and Frakes jumping after the balloon at the end (which, unfortunately, isn't part of the above clips).

 

[adg1034]

That was good.

"Michael they dont serve McBLTs anymore!"

"But they have all the ingredients for it...



And Denise Crosby getting killed :lol

Wow, Family Guy can be surprisingly on point when they want to be. Great episode.

 

[AMUSIX]

The function afterwards is "cocktail dress code" .. what is this? A suit and tie?? I will feel way out of my comfort zone dressed like that around Spock and Kirk, how important do people think it is to follow this dress code??? My plan is to look good but not wear a suit jacket, just a jumper or something. Will i get away with that?

Suit and tie is proper. Depending on what time of day and where it's being held, this can range from a look like this:

to a look like this:

Granted, since this is a west-coast function (I'm assuming) chances are people will be a bit more dressed down, so you can get away with something more casual like this:

 

[Fix The Scientist]

Damn i was afraid it would be clothing such as that. Would i get away with something like this?

 

[Bernbaum]

Just started watching TNG for the first time ever.

I like it.

Having recently finished BSG and with the positive hype coming out of the thread for the upcoming film, I felt it was about time to watch the DVD's I bought years ago for my Dad.

I've only finished the first two discs of season 1, and I'll flesh out my impressions later, but I'll definitely invest time into the rest of the series. I've seen the four TNG-related films, so my expectations of what the show would entail are completely different to what I actually watched.

Here's my thoughts, because I know you all care:

+ Great cast
+ Well-rounded crew with a bunch of different backgrounds
+ Each episode is basically a detective story, but ends up with a resolution that deviates from what the viewer initially predicts will happen (wow Bernbaum, most shows do this! - I mention this because it stands out from more recent Sci-Fi fare I've watched recently and the fact that I watch almost zero TV, only comedies)
+ A good dose of plump, healthy tits on my TV screen
+ Funny
+ Stories and settings are diverse. Hoping they don't re-tread the same shit but with a slightly different alien in later series
+ The universe and background are reasonably-well realised and fleshed out
+ The basic crew is effectively established in their role from the get-go. There isn't any initial fleshing-out of the back story for each character in the first episode. I like how Riker's arrival on the ship is pretty much the medium for the audience seeing the Enterprise for the first time
+ References to modern culture (Sun Tzu, Sherlock Holmes) could have been shit, but are actually implemented pretty well
+ Picard is fucking badarse
+ Resolution to each episode builds on different strengths of crew members
+ Surpising amount of sex. The security officer chick had sex with Data in the second episode- what the fuck?
+ Emphasis is on the story, characters, and conflict resolution and not really the flashy technology. Technology is mostly represented as just a tool, although there are a few 'deus-ex machina' moments which always feel cheap
+ Sometimes cheesy, but in a good way

- No over-arcing plot leading towards a specific goal
- Wesley Crusher is basically written as a character to fulfill every neckbeard fanboy's daydream of being aboard the Enterprise
- Wesley Crusher is also a complete pussy
- Special effects are a bit shit. Expecting this to improve, but given it's era, I don't really care

Spoiler

I'm a proud Wii fanboy, so compromising on aesthetics is in my blood

- What the fuck is with the planet with all the sexy people running everywhere?
- Why do most races they discover look pretty much human, but with slightly different skin?
- Scienctific explanations and technology are not like any real science I ever studied
- Security officer chick is kinda gross
- The whole 'emotional ignorance' thing with Data gets annoying, but he's a good character and well-acted
- Worf doesn't feel threatening at all. He just seems like the Klingon that was too much of a pussy so the others cast him out
- Space ship action is crap. Expecting this to improve
- Sometimes cheesy, but in a bad way

The show isn't what I expected at all, but I have come to enjoy it for different reasons.

 

[syllogism]

The first season is pretty terrible and I usually even recommend skipping it completely. I look forward to your updated impressions after seasons 3,4,5

 

[The Librarian]

The first season is pretty terrible and I usually even recommend skipping it completely

Season one is bad. Picard, Worf, and Data are the characters that really carried the show.

Bernbaum, make sure you move on to DS9 after TNG.

 

[Bernbaum]

Oh good. In what ways does it improve?

Bernbaum, make sure you move on to DS9 after TNG.

I've heard that audiences were split over DS9. From what I gather, I'll probably like it, given that it has episode-spanning story arcs and a genuine military conflict that lasts for a while.

 

[syllogism]

Oh good. In what ways does it improve?

In every way really, most notably the script and acting. Season 2 has some good episodes but overall 3-6 are easily the best seasons.

 

[The Librarian]

Oh good. In what ways does it improve?

If you don't mind minor spoilers:

Spoiler

-The removal of some character present in season 1.
-Return of the Romulans.
-More Klingon involvement.

Stuff like that. It really makes a difference, though.

I've heard that audiences were split over DS9. From what I gather, I'll probably like it, given that it has episode-spanning story arcs and a genuine military conflict that lasts for a while.

Most of the people behind BSG are from DS9 (including R. Moore). I look forward to your impressions of both series.

 

[Cheebs]

In every way really, most notably the script and acting. Season 2 has some good episodes but overall 3-6 are easily the best seasons.

Yep. Season 2 does have my favorite TNG episode ever though, Measure of a Man.

 

[Bernbaum]

The main crew I feel are pretty well-acted. Blind guy with visor is pretty inconsistent and occasionally acts in ways that I don't expect, or feel appropriate for a particular scene, although he'll probably be better defined in later episodes. Worf at the moment comes off as very flat and unemotive, just constantly staring around the deck in confusion.

The acting for the background characters is just plain bad.

 

[Cheebs]

The main crew I feel are pretty well-acted. Blind guy with visor is pretty inconsistent and occasionally acts in ways that I don't expect, or feel appropriate for a particular, although he'll probably be better defined in later episodes. Worf at the moment comes off as very flat and unemotive, just constantly staring around the deck in confusion.

The acting for the background characters is just plain bad.

"blind guy" was pretty terrible in season 1, in season 2 when they make him the chief engineer he really improves.

And yeah Worf will grow, by the end of the run is he probably one of the funniest characters oddly enough.

 

[Nexus Zero]

given that it has episode-spanning story arcs and a genuine military conflict that lasts for a while.

This is putting me off going to TNG or Voyager after watching DS9. I've just finished season 6 and the last couple of seasons account for some of my favourite TV ever - I think the continuity has a lot to do with that and it's spoiled everything else as a result.

Can someone explain something to me - why aren't there more Andorians or Vulcans in Starfleet? Obviously budget, but I was wondering if there was a canonical explaination for 90% of officers being human?

 

[Gary Whitta]

With a couple of episodes as exceptions (Measure of a Man as said above), Season 2 of TNG is pretty bad. Working my way through it currently and the writing is really sophomoric. Pulaski is awful.

As a rule of thumb, TNG doesn't start getting good until after they change out of the bargain basement Starfleet uniforms into the proper ones with collars. I believe that's Season 3. It's like the first two seasons of Frasier - if I'm channel-surfing and see Frasier with the shaggy hair or TNG characters wearing those cheap-ass bodysuits I just keep right on moving.

 

[WyndhamPrice]

With a couple of episodes as exceptions (Measure of a Man as said above), Season 2 of TNG is pretty bad. Working my way through it currently and the writing is really sophomoric. Pulaski is awful.

As a rule of thumb, TNG doesn't start getting good until after they change out of the bargain basement Starfleet uniforms into the proper ones with collars. I believe that's Season 3. It's like the first two seasons of Frasier - if I'm channel-surfing and see Frasier with the shaggy hair or TNG characters wearing those cheap-ass bodysuits I just keep right on moving.

I generally just follow the "Beard rule" for TNG and DS9: If Riker or Sisko don't have a beard, change the channel. Obviously early DS9 is nowhere near as bad as early TNG but it really doesn't get good like we remember it till season 3/4.