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The lack of quality control on the Nintendo eShop is getting embarrassing
- Thread starter Gonzo The Great
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Amentallica
Unconfirmed Member
Y'know, while I agree that those games are broken in some ways, they are not unplayable. Certainly not in the same league of terrible as with some of the examples in the OP.
Why can't their be a middle ground? Why is it always extremes. All or nothing.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
If a movie is intentionally bad, why is it allowed in movie theaters?
This is a slap-dash cash grab, nothing more, nothing less.
Leafhopper
Banned
Because the only thing that it has to pass is that it works (to some degree) and doesn't brick the system.
The quality of the game doesn't matter though, sadly.
Of course, but when a game is known to be that bad, people will start to get curious and want to check it out themselves. Kinda like Bad Rats Steam game. Look at The Letter. It kept have $0.49 sales, so everyone kept buying it to see if it truely was that bad. Obviously raising awareness of horrible games to warn people is always a good idea. Though sometimes like this is also slightly backfires and helps promote them. Meme Run seems like it was made specifically just to be so bad that it advertises itself.
You are doing exactly what these developers want .. Free promotion through controversy. It really does work based on what I have seen and I'm honestly shocked.
Who's the judge and jury here? Again should Nintendo decide even more so than they already do, what you can and cannot buy?
I think you are grossly overstating the I pact of these "bad" games. The market will ultimately decide if they give money to something or not.
You do realize that if Ninjapig had access to a PS4 dev kit they'd probably put their game there too. The web frame work has enabled some more questionable games, but it's not the platform holders job to tell us if something is bad.
We didn't have the resources to know if a game was terrible or not that we do today.
Isn't it their platform? Don't they have a right to decide? I dunno. When a consumer buys a platform, you kind of buy it knowing that there are things the platform does that you have no say in. So you choose whether you want to buy into that platform based on how the company does business. It's no different then Steam, Apple, or any other major platform.
Companies have a right to decide what content they are going to allow on it.
Danny Dudekisser
I paid good money for this Dynex!
I'm just sayin', deciding people can buy Meme Run but not The Binding of Isaac: Rebirth is fucking insane.
Haunted
Member
I see your point, but the garbage you linked in the OP looks like absolute shit even on a casual glance. For trash of this tier, there's no further awareness needed. Only if a game looks like shit but is actually interesting does it make more sense to talk about it (like that goty420blazeit shooter people have been talking about a couple weeks ago).
Conversely, if you want to warn others of garbage, there are better targets - games that look interesting/promising/competent on first glance but are actually bad (think AC Unity or something).
flatearthpandas
Member
As long as the reviewers are also putting reviews on the eshop, I don't really have a problem. If you really are in the mood to randomly buy a title off of the eshop without checking reviews online, I would hope at least the terrible eshop ratings would give you pause.
It is sad if Nintendo is giving front page space or tweets to promote terrible games though.
It is sad if Nintendo is giving front page space or tweets to promote terrible games though.
I've never seen anything like this on consoles.
An eshop release of Isaac has been teased for a while now. Wait until the exclusivity deal with Sony ends before claiming that Nintendo has blocked the game.
James Scott
Banned
Nintendo's plan is to allow everything to get on the store as long as they follow the guidelines. They'll give front page coverage to stand out titles while leaving the mediocre ones to rot in a hidden off section. Doesn't work out well when people go put of their way to promote games like meme run "it's so bad, lol, look at this guys".
I guess after Wiiware they needed to do something to show they changed. Going to the opposite extrem worked out and the eShop actually gets pretty good support even if they get a shitty title every once in awhile.
That was in 2011-2012 - when Nintendo was still very strict about what kind of games it allowed on the eShop. This changed in '13 and the games in the OP are (part of) the result... Latest rumours are that the binding of Isaac is being ported to 3DS/Wii U afaik.
Fair enough. I just wonder why people have to be all or nothing. One or the other. Why their can't be some restrictions, but not as over bearing (not as crazy as before). It doesn't have to be one or the other.
MrDanger88
Member
Wouldn't be so glaring if the Wii U had a constant stream of game releases. These days you're either going to get a really good first party game every now and then or a very bad indie download every now and then. Not much middle ground which sadly reflects a majority of people's viewpoints these days.
You've clearly never seen PS Mobile or XBLIG then?
Nintendo just discriminate between levels of developers.
Oni Link 666
Member
"browser quality games"
What the fuck does that even mean? As if a game being playable on a browser automatically made games worse.
What the fuck does that even mean? As if a game being playable on a browser automatically made games worse.
gamergirly
Member
Indie does not equal Nintendo made. There are some serious unrealistic expectations if X Type is supposed to be Star Fox lol
I don't think the Seal of Quality was ever about how good a game was. Wasn't it just tested to ensure it worked on the system? It stated the product was an officially licensed product rather than unlicensed crap some dude made at home for fun. There are plenty of shitty officially licensed games on the NES that had the Seal of Quality.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Haunted
Member
Indeed. A good system will be able to offer everything and still allow you to discover great games you want to play.
DownGrader
Member
XType+, by the way, is quite a good game, a prime example of Nintendo Web Framework game done right. But, as far as we see, it is the only good thing that came from the idea of this framework (well, Mario vs Donkey Kong Wii U seems to be based on it too).
I don't see this as a bad thing. Nintendo allowing total freedom within basic QA lotcheck, a very low barrier to entry for developers and no segregation from traditional developers are all good things. It's something all console makers should be doing, and in the future they probably will be doing if they want to keep putting out hardware.
We've come a long way from days of Reggie saying they don't want garage developers.
We've come a long way from days of Reggie saying they don't want garage developers.
old manatee
Banned
It makes sense to have games like that on a platform like ios or steam, where there is a flood of games, but when I log into the eshop it is a trickle and it is so obvious which few games shouldn't be there.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
I'm still genuinely curious as to which good/great games didn't receive a push on the front page because they were crowded out by bad ones.
Someone should load up the eShop and post screenshots of what is currently being advertised.
Someone should load up the eShop and post screenshots of what is currently being advertised.
So is Transformers, but that still gets shown in theatres.
Are you comparing the two? Because Transformers takes a lot of work to make. Whatever criticisms we have about it, it's a full production. This is not. It's clearly made to game the system, and is done with bad intentions.
The only thing I'll agree on, is that ultimately, consumers have to inform themselves. And ultimately, they can choose to buy this or not. But looking at this from Nintendo's perspective, as a platform brand, it is still kind of embarrassing.
I agree. Just go here and click on View: Wii U.
http://www.nintendo.com/eshop/offers
Majority of this software is total garbage, and this is the stuff they have on sale the week before Christmas. It's pathetic.
http://www.nintendo.com/eshop/offers
Majority of this software is total garbage, and this is the stuff they have on sale the week before Christmas. It's pathetic.
As long as consumers aren't being scammed and there are mechanisms to react to any malicious activity, I'm fine marketplaces being flooded with shovel-ware. It doesn't negatively affect how I use the Apple App Store, or Google Play, or Steam, or any other similar services with lots of games on it.
The fact that shovel-ware is available on these platforms doesn't in anyway compel me to buy it anymore than it would otherwise.
The fact that shovel-ware is available on these platforms doesn't in anyway compel me to buy it anymore than it would otherwise.
FF Seraphim
Member
We need someone to torture themselves for our own benefit!
Robin64
Member
Well developers set their own sales.
Just because it takes a lot of work to make doesnt mean the end product is any good.
edit you edited your post.
Prevolition
Member
Nintendo never placed the "Nintendo Seal of Quality" on games other than its own.
Not saying it is. But it's still an effort with an intention. These games are made just to abuse the system, and to try to make money off people that don't know any better.
Yeah, I edited my post. I've always thought Transformers were shit though. No doubt. But they are still a full on production, and still have some intentions to make an actual product. I just don't see that in some of these games. This seems like doing the minimal effort to try to trick people into spending cash. I dunno.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Wait, so Transformers 2, the movie with a script written over the weekend to avoid the writers strike is a full product?
If someone makes something, and you don't like it, don't buy it. Sometimes capitalism sucks, but that's the way it works. And who knows, the meme developer could be working on something big later in his future and put it on a Nintendo system, just because Nintendo allowed them the freedom the first time. I mean if Hello Games can go from making that Joe Danger series to No Man's Sky, maybe this dev can go from a few early games, to something maybe you might even want to play.