Denton
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So succinctly put.
Yeah me too, but I still expect the game to appear on PC, later anyway.
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The majority of PS4 PSN titles seem to be PC ports. Anyone else incredibly vexed?
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So succinctly put.
Yeah me too, but I still expect the game to appear on PC, later anyway.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
Exclusive content is overrated, if you get games that you want to play, then that's all that matters.
British Monsoon
Member
Just to compare, here were the PSN titles released between November '06 and May '07 for the PS3;
. Blast Factor
. Cash, Guns, Chaos
. Go! Sudoku
. Lemmings
. flOw
. Tekken 5: Dark Revolution
. GripShift
. Q*Bert
. Calling all Cars
. Championship Sprint
. Joust
. Mortal Kombat II
. Gauntlet II
. Rampage World Tour
. Rampart
. Super Rub 'a' Dub
There's a couple of great games there, a good few ports and many forgettable titles. All in all, I think we're currently better off with a crop of good PC indie releases - few may be exclusive to the system, but I'm not sure it matters all that much.
. Blast Factor
. Cash, Guns, Chaos
. Go! Sudoku
. Lemmings
. flOw
. Tekken 5: Dark Revolution
. GripShift
. Q*Bert
. Calling all Cars
. Championship Sprint
. Joust
. Mortal Kombat II
. Gauntlet II
. Rampage World Tour
. Rampart
. Super Rub 'a' Dub
There's a couple of great games there, a good few ports and many forgettable titles. All in all, I think we're currently better off with a crop of good PC indie releases - few may be exclusive to the system, but I'm not sure it matters all that much.
figadapaura
Member
Sounds like without being 'moneyhatted' the game wouldn't be being made at all.
Huggers
Member
Yeah I can't see how opening up more platforms to play these games can ever be a bad thing. It's not like Sony are going to use them as replacements for first party stuff. Gone Home is awesome btw.
Why does it matter if they are PC ports or not?
Indie devs need all the help they can get. You should be happy they are releasing on multiple platforms, not "concerned" because they aren't exclusives.
The Witness, Galak-Z, SOMA, Pavillion, Transistor, Outlast... rumors of Ether One, Routine, and Mind: Path to Thalamus... I want to see these guys on as many platforms as possible, making as much money as possible, and then making more games. Hopefully they get Xbox One ports, too.
Indie devs need all the help they can get. You should be happy they are releasing on multiple platforms, not "concerned" because they aren't exclusives.
The Witness, Galak-Z, SOMA, Pavillion, Transistor, Outlast... rumors of Ether One, Routine, and Mind: Path to Thalamus... I want to see these guys on as many platforms as possible, making as much money as possible, and then making more games. Hopefully they get Xbox One ports, too.
I was actually fiddling with a PS4 controller the other day to see if I'd want to get one.
lolnope, it hurts my hands to hold. They haven't figured out the palm grips yet. It's awful. And that build quality thread isn't that exciting.
Besides, why buy a console for just two games?
They announced it for PC, they were working on it for PC, etc. Then Sony came along and suddenly "oh yeah we couldn't make this without Sony's help." If Sony was like "sure, release it for whatever platforms; we don't care," I'd be cool, but this is pretty much guaranteed not to come out on PC anymore, when before, it absolutely was coming on the platform. That rubs me the wrong way.
Funded you mean...
Eh, I kinda do. AAA titles and sequalitis is kinda killing gaming for me. The more mid tier titles the better.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
We "gamers" are a fickle bunch. Developers want to make an income, they can't afford to think "Hey, we've already released this game on PS3, 360 and PC and our next game isn't released until a year from now and income is running dry... I wish there was something we should do that wouldn't inconvenience gamers like porting our game, that's already out, to a new platform.".
Bring 'em on, I say. I enjoy playing games again and again. Currently Killzone is my only AAA-game on PS4. Most of my time is spent between Warframe and Trials. I've enjoyed Don't Starve, which I missed on PC, and Octodad, which I also missed. I don't mind seeing them there. It's a good and solid addition and it helps. I'd argue that Microsoft is in a worse place by not having them there.
Bring 'em on, I say. I enjoy playing games again and again. Currently Killzone is my only AAA-game on PS4. Most of my time is spent between Warframe and Trials. I've enjoyed Don't Starve, which I missed on PC, and Octodad, which I also missed. I don't mind seeing them there. It's a good and solid addition and it helps. I'd argue that Microsoft is in a worse place by not having them there.
FirmBizBws
Becomes baffled, curling up into a ball when confronted with three controller options.
Then you'll love PC ports.
I'm not saying I won't. I just said that I'm worried that PC ports make up 90% of the PSN library right now.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Co-developing and financing is not money hatting.
Mike Works
Member
I have a weak PC, and even though it can run games like Fez or Stick it to the Man, my PC is situated in an office and I like to keep games off it.
So no, I want every PC indie (or studio release) ported to the PS4/Vita. I love em. Fez, Thomas Was Alone, Walking Dead, Hotline Miami, Limbo, Don't Starve, Spelunky, Warframe, Planetside 2... give them to me. All of them.
The more platforms a game is on (especially an indie game), the higher rate it has of success. I can understand being a little peeved if you're a big PC gamer and you also own a Sony system and get stuck with a game for PS+ that you already own, but aside from that, who cares.
Wanting original content is always great, but I don't see how porting Fez or Limbo to consoles is suddenly going to drive away original content. I think there's a big cost different between porting an old game and creating a new one.
So no, I want every PC indie (or studio release) ported to the PS4/Vita. I love em. Fez, Thomas Was Alone, Walking Dead, Hotline Miami, Limbo, Don't Starve, Spelunky, Warframe, Planetside 2... give them to me. All of them.
The more platforms a game is on (especially an indie game), the higher rate it has of success. I can understand being a little peeved if you're a big PC gamer and you also own a Sony system and get stuck with a game for PS+ that you already own, but aside from that, who cares.
Wanting original content is always great, but I don't see how porting Fez or Limbo to consoles is suddenly going to drive away original content. I think there's a big cost different between porting an old game and creating a new one.
figadapaura
Member
Lots of games get announced that don't even get made. The fact that Sony Santa Monica are actually co-developing it says to me they did need help. But if you think they should have tried their luck on Kickstarter instead, well that's your opinion.
Why would that be cause for concern anyway?
As someone already mentioned, it's only been 6 months. Games can't be released at a drop of a hat. We know there are some studios creating exclusive content (Housemarque, Giant Sparrow, The Chinese Room, Tequila Works, etc.) But why not just enjoy the great games that are currently out and will be coming out regardless if they are available somewhere else? Would it really be preferable if there was less games available on the platform if it meant that the PS4 was the only place you can play them?
Basically what this thread sounds to me.
tokyostomp
Banned
Fuck 2D indies.
I want some 3D jaw droppers like Infamous (even though the side missions blew)
I want some 3D jaw droppers like Infamous (even though the side missions blew)
Denton
Member
They sold probably now around a million Dear Esther copies on PC, and god knows how many copies of Amnesia 2 (probably quite a lot, considering the brand). They are not poor indie studio. If their next game still exceeded their funds, then they had two options:
1) make a smaller, less financially demanding game
2) seek additional funding
They chose the second option, and they chose it in a way where they shit on their existing fan base. If they went on Kickstarter, or crowdfunded the game on their own site or whatever, AND did not succeed to raise enough funds (and I doubt that would happen, considering their success), then I do not think anyone would begrudge them for going with publisher (and even making their game console only). But they did not, so.
Unknown One
Member
Kind of tired of people putting exclusive on a pedestal.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I'm cool with it. I hate gaming on my PC, so I've missed out on a lot of these games.
To put SO and Titanfall next to each other just proves that you have no understanding of what people actually mean.
Maybe less knee jerk and more understanding?
Wiktor
Member
I'm not sure about that. I think this might negatively effect PC version in some cases.
Also..Sony doesn't exactly have sixth sense. They specifically go mostly for those indies that are either already acclaimed or are made by devs who made such games previously. In the second case having both PS4 and PC versions at the same time would propably mean just delaying pc version by a lot.
figadapaura
Member
In that article it says they also needed help to actually develop it, not just money. The scale of the game is more than their studio can handle. They didn't think Kickstarter was a viable option. Perhaps they needed more help than you realise.
Holy shit, the comments section is comedy gold.
Nightengale
Member
Hohokum and Helldivers are coming soon, in summer.
Those two titles, imo, are going to be PS4's standout 'first-party' small game experience for 2014.
Those two titles, imo, are going to be PS4's standout 'first-party' small game experience for 2014.
Randy Monk
Member
I am literally shaking with anger that people are incredibly vexed.
mercenar1e
Member
i think the PS3 had a 2 year game drought on the PSN and maybe even retail.. i bought it in 2008 and i thought the console had nothing
Wiktor
Member
Yeah. People were much too bitter about silly stuff like this. Sure, it stung a little,so I propably wouldn't support their Kickstarter or early access, but nothing beyond that.
The_Inquisitor
Member
I don't understand why its an issue. I bought my PS4 so I didn't have to buy a PC for my indie games...
Reading the guy laughing at the one guy for suggesting Microsoft would have actually let the game come to PC is a bit weird. I can't think of ANY PSN games that came to PC. I can think of plenty of Microsoft games that have ended up making the jump, however. I'd have to agree: with Microsoft, this'd end up making it to Steam, practically guaranteed. Sony's... pretty much locked it to the console.
That's partly why I'm GLAD Sony's gone for the strategy of "just try to get Sony ports of PC indies." I think it leads to more games on more platforms. If anything, Sony should start publishing stuff on the PC, rather than try to make more PSN exclusives. If they want exclusive stuff, they should put a huge focus on good AAAs. I realize that they haven't ever really done that--most of their content are like mid-range games that sell poorly (even if they're good, though the metascore average is the lowest of the big three for good reason) 'cause they don't really fit the $60 price point--but there's a first time for everything.
Prototype Viktor
Member
Majority of ps4 games are games has me vexed, was told it had none