No, they used to give you betas. Betas are sweet. Betas are incentivization. This? Bullshit.saelz8 said:You mean, you're getting access to a demo for a product you already purchased, early. I see nothing there to complain about, considering a demo, for everyone, will be released on the 11th. It's an incentivization strategy, and something Valve always does. They have been doing it for years. (Since CS:S in 2004).
TheOneGuy said:While I do not share Draft's, um, vicious vitriol...
It is pretty dumb to give early access to a demo. I bought it regardless because I Know I Want It. But still. It's a silly thing.
I would have bought it even if there was no early demo. 10% off! Not to mention preloading the game.
FrenchMovieTheme said:yes it is available on 360 at amazon still. go here:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000QY9C90/?tag=neogaf0e-20
in the upper right hand corner click "add to cart" and boom there you go
Why are you taking so much offense because I stated my opinion?Ferrio said:Why is it stupid? Just because the name "Demo", we could rename it "Sneak peek" weekend and oh holy shit all would be better.
TheOneGuy said:Why are you taking so much offense because I stated my opinion?
It's an almost entirely worthless thing to offer as a preorder bonus. Early access to a demo, oh boy. A sneak peak is still a demo. Don't start arguing semantics. Makes you look desparate. O_O
But it doesn't detract from the value of the game. So um. Wat? I very clearly said it didn't really bother me.
Besides, worthless preorder bonuses are better than worthwhile preorder bonuses. Preorder bonuses are fucking stupid altogether.
LM4sure said:When will the pc demo be available if I don't preorder?
You have completely thrown me for a loop and I have no idea what's going on anymore.Ferrio said:There is the whole 5 dollars off thing. Ya it isn't much but I rarely see preordered games go for less than release date.
TheOneGuy said:It's an almost entirely worthless thing to offer as a preorder bonus. Early access to a demo, oh boy.
Bliblibliblibliblibliblib.BobJustBob said:You're buying the game. So they say, hey thanks, here's a piece of it to tide you over until release.
You get to play the game two weeks before it comes out. How exactly is that worthless?
TheOneGuy said:Bliblibliblibliblibliblib.
l2read kthx
Yeah, the thing is we're just getting a small slice of the game. If it were a beta, we'd be getting a substantial portion, if not, all of the game.Reikon said:Geez, people can complain about anything. Just rename the demo in your head as beta and you won't have anything to bitch about.
Consider it like MMOs. People who preorder get early access to the beta. Open beta comes later for everyone else. The L4D demo even ends when the game comes out, just like a MMO beta.
uhBobJustBob said:Oh, you're a troll. My mistake.
fallengorn said:Yeah, the thing is we're just getting a small slice of the game. If it were a beta, we'd be getting a substantial portion, if not, all of the game.
fallengorn said:Anyone know what the demo consists of? How many maps?
Really not. I bought it yesterday for the demo.TheOneGuy said:Why are you taking so much offense because I stated my opinion?
It's an almost entirely worthless thing to offer as a preorder bonus.
dLMN8R said:They mentioned that the demo would have part of one of the campaigns - I'm guessing 2-3 maps of one of the 5-map campaigns. It will *not* included the versus mode, just the co-op mode.
It makes perfect sense for all the same reasons as any other pre-order perk. It's one more incentive for people to pre-order, which benefits Valve, both by putting money in their pockets immediately and by ensuring that the players don't spoil their appetite with the demo and not feel like buying the retail game anymore. If you operate on the assumption that they would have released the demo earlier if not for this deal then sure it's a cheap trick, but that's business. One week is plenty long enough for undecided players to try out the demo and make up their mind.Draft said:I'm not bitching so much as pointing out that it is stupid to limit access to a demo. Demos get people to buy games. The more people who enjoy the demo, the more people buy the game.
Making the demo a timed exclusive for people who are already excited enough about the game to preorder doesn't make sense, unless you are Gabe Fucking Newell, EA Company Man, and you have a large, legendary PC game developer hard on for breaking some sort of preorder record.
He's just a person who'll always find a way to bitch so he can turn the forum against him. Why else do you think the first rule of GAF TF2 is "kill Twig"?BobJustBob said:Oh, you're a troll. My mistake.
FUCK YOU VALVE FOR OFFERING THIS STUPID WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT PREORDER INCENTIVE. I GIVE YOU MY FUCKING HARD EARNED CASH EARLIER THAN I NEED TO AND THIS IS ALL YOU CAN DO TO THANK ME FOR IT? JUMP OFF A BRIDGE, BUT DON'T DROWN. NO, YOU TRY TO DROWN AND FAIL BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WORTHLESS YOU ARE. THEN A BOAT HITS YOU AND YOU EXPLODE. DICKS.firex said:He's just a person who'll always find a way to bitch so he can turn the forum against him. Why else do you think the first rule of GAF TF2 is "kill Twig"?
:lol I'm starting to think that someone hijacked your account. Nobody would be this angry at a game. Seriously.TheOneGuy said:FUCK YOU VALVE FOR OFFERING THIS STUPID WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT PREORDER INCENTIVE. I GIVE YOU MY FUCKING HARD EARNED CASH EARLIER THAN I NEED TO AND THIS IS ALL YOU CAN DO TO THANK ME FOR IT? JUMP OFF A BRIDGE, BUT DON'T DROWN. NO, YOU TRY TO DROWN AND FAIL BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WORTHLESS YOU ARE. THEN A BOAT HITS YOU AND YOU EXPLODE. DICKS.
*twitch twitch*ThaiGrocer said::lol I'm starting to think that someone hijacked your account. Nobody would be this angry at a game. Seriously.
ThaiGrocer said:anyway, let's focus on the topic here. L4D411 dropped a giant assload of goodies for us to view! There's a ten minute video from PotentialGamer.
The German box art will feature a temporary "low violence cover" in some retailers during the Christmas shopping season. It's the box art but with a thumb, and is super duper awesome. The German version of Left 4 Dead will also feature green blood and no helpless enemies (zombies sitting or lying). Community member Dead Fish found a couple German previews with a picture of the Blood Harvest movie poster, 21 screenshots, pictures of Valve, and news that Bill will be voiced by the German voice actor of Dr. House.
Yeah, that is pretty dumb. The reason you see infected sitting down and laying around is because they are tired, starving, and thirsty.BuddhaRockstar said:Wow, that's really lame, and it sounds game changing.
Nonedankir said:Is there a collectors edition for the 360/PS3 ?
Won said::lol @ german box art. Now with 25% more fingers! Left 5 Dead!
Why even bother releasing games in that country? They obviously don't want them.
Won said::lol @ german box art. Now with 25% more fingers! Left 5 Dead!
Why even bother releasing games in that country? They obviously don't want them.
myDingling said:How were TF2 updates handled?
:lol I don't even know who's serious anymore.TheOneGuy said:*twitch twitch*
I am broken.
JSnake said:On 360? They uh, weren't.
definitely check out dead set thenbob_arctor said:I just watched Romero's Day Of The Dead last night and all I could think of was Left 4 Dead, especially considering the 3 main protagonists/archetypes. God, what an awesome flick, screw the haters. I am basically entombing myself with everything zombie until the 18th. Just printed out Romero's original screenplay for Day. Gonna watch Dawn tonight. Saw Night on Halloween. And I still need to cop Diary Of The Dead and on a GAF recommendation, read this: