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The Official 'What Developers Have to Say about the Revolution' Thread
- Thread starter Gaia Theory
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Not really on topic, but this thread sparked my memory:
On a recent international flight, where we had individual screens (with on demand entertainment so we could play, rewind, pause any movie at any time), they had those armchair controllers you could extend on a cord and rotate sideways for a game controller. Anyway, those controllers have the D-pad at one end, and they look remarkably like the rev-con (well, teh revcon looks like a remote by design). The funny thing was nearly every one I saw, who wasn't playing a game was waving and pointing it at their screen, despite it notactually being infrared (it's simply corded). Goes to show how ingrained and natural remote-behaviour is.
If the revcon really works well, it's going to be oh-so intuitive for non-gamers.
On a recent international flight, where we had individual screens (with on demand entertainment so we could play, rewind, pause any movie at any time), they had those armchair controllers you could extend on a cord and rotate sideways for a game controller. Anyway, those controllers have the D-pad at one end, and they look remarkably like the rev-con (well, teh revcon looks like a remote by design). The funny thing was nearly every one I saw, who wasn't playing a game was waving and pointing it at their screen, despite it notactually being infrared (it's simply corded). Goes to show how ingrained and natural remote-behaviour is.
If the revcon really works well, it's going to be oh-so intuitive for non-gamers.
GamingGuru
Banned
Gaia Theory said:
Disclaimer: Its cleary visible that these comments have been hand picked for positive comments only, not a single one really talks about the under powered hardware of the REV or anything negative, everything said is basically about the remote control looking gamepad..nothing more.
Seems edited by only picking out positive comments..hmm, figures
GamingGuru said:
Please...stop...go and do something useful.
This is the third time in a row I see you trolling in a Nintendo related thread and it's constantly about the same ol' same ol'. If you don't have anything interesting to say, then please be on your merry way. We understand that you're dissapointed in Nintendo and cry over it every night before going to bed. It's clear! No go discuss games instead of this bs.
I mean, critizising Nintendo is perfectly fine. What world would it be if everyone would simply agree with everything a company does and swallow everything they throw at them? That's called blind devotion/fanboyism and I certainly don't want any part of that. But this constant nagging about the same old shit is getting real old, real quick. So please stop it if you can. It's no use. The Nbots wont listen to you anyway.
There's that, and also the fact that the vast majority of quotes from Developers range from optimistic to estatic. It's kinda hard to find anyone in the dev community that would actively go out of their way to hate on the Revmote, and people in the community seem to think it's powerful enough (or at least no one has really said any differently - at least on record, anyway)
Mr. Spinnington
Banned
NiGHTS for Revolution, okay?
Just please
Just please
Gaia Theory
Member
Nice try. I mean, you can try and say what you want about me, but the point is, this thread contains fucking 'quotes.' Do know what that means?GamingGuru said:
For the record, I originally had the quotes organized into 3 categories:
1) Positive
2) Negative
3) Neutral
You can find all three types of responses in the quotes section of this thread. The overwhelming majority of developers say positive things, a handful say negative things, and a couple are fairly neutral.
Senior designer Erin Daly of Relic Entertainment was one of the few creative minds in attendance at the secret meeting, and described the controller as "very cool" upon first handling. "I have a lot of respect for Nintendo for the direction they're taking," he says, admiring Nintendo's unique approach. "Basically, Sony and Microsoft are all about more of the same, but faster/shinier/smoother, and Nintendo is taking a very different tact."
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3144666
Rumble Roses producer Akari Uchida already has some tricks up his sleeve, but frankly, we're slightly nervous to find out what his Revolution ideas would translate to in a videogame setting. "I would like to come up with play ideas involving the direct influencing of characters on the screen with that controller," he says. "I can think of a lot of naughty things if I were to do something with Rumble Roses."
Relic Entertainment senior designer Erin Daly is keen on taking advantage of Revolution's features. "Personally, it's always been a secret dream of mine to be able to make a game that my grandmother would want to play, something so broadly accessible you don't need to be a gamer, or even like games, to want to try it," he says. "I could see that being possible with the Revolution controller."
"The new controller sounds interesting, and worth a try for sure. However, we have seen 'new' controller paradigms come and go in the past decade, for both consoles and PCs," says Richard "Levelord" Grey, level designer at SiN Episodes creator Ritual Entertainment. "Even when they are better, getting the gamer to make the change from such a well-grounded standard is not an easy thing to do."
"This will be a challenge to develop for, and doesn't allow easy cross-platform development," said design director Tom Smith of High Voltage Software to Gamasutra. However, Smith notes that "they won't get a ton of games, but Nintendo likes to thrive on a few good first-party games."
"When Nintendo created the gamepad it was adopted as the norm; when they created the analog stick it was adopted as the norm; when they created rumble it was adopted as the norm," said Alex Neuse of Activision to Gamasutra. "Their track record is strong. I hope that this new controller allows developers to offer gamers new and unique ways to interface with the medium."
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=4&cId=3144666
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?cId=3144666
Rumble Roses producer Akari Uchida already has some tricks up his sleeve, but frankly, we're slightly nervous to find out what his Revolution ideas would translate to in a videogame setting. "I would like to come up with play ideas involving the direct influencing of characters on the screen with that controller," he says. "I can think of a lot of naughty things if I were to do something with Rumble Roses."
Relic Entertainment senior designer Erin Daly is keen on taking advantage of Revolution's features. "Personally, it's always been a secret dream of mine to be able to make a game that my grandmother would want to play, something so broadly accessible you don't need to be a gamer, or even like games, to want to try it," he says. "I could see that being possible with the Revolution controller."
"The new controller sounds interesting, and worth a try for sure. However, we have seen 'new' controller paradigms come and go in the past decade, for both consoles and PCs," says Richard "Levelord" Grey, level designer at SiN Episodes creator Ritual Entertainment. "Even when they are better, getting the gamer to make the change from such a well-grounded standard is not an easy thing to do."
"This will be a challenge to develop for, and doesn't allow easy cross-platform development," said design director Tom Smith of High Voltage Software to Gamasutra. However, Smith notes that "they won't get a ton of games, but Nintendo likes to thrive on a few good first-party games."
"When Nintendo created the gamepad it was adopted as the norm; when they created the analog stick it was adopted as the norm; when they created rumble it was adopted as the norm," said Alex Neuse of Activision to Gamasutra. "Their track record is strong. I hope that this new controller allows developers to offer gamers new and unique ways to interface with the medium."
http://www.1up.com/do/feature?pager.offset=4&cId=3144666
The Bookerman
Member
GamingGuru said:
Read'em all before Talking trash:
David Perry said:
Ed boon also trashed it, but that's understandable cause Mortal kombat strives on dial up combos and that controller isn't the best solution for that type of Gameplay.
MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
David Perry said:
I don't quite understand his reasoning. So he had to fight his grandparents off a videogame controller and he still thinks it sucks and people will want to play with the traditional pads? I can't even get my parents to pick up the old NES pads anymore (they used to play NES when it first came out and my father bought the original Pong and Game&Watch back in the day).
I hope that Revolution takes off like crazy in Japan, has a solid performance everywhere else, and the interface becomes the standard...just so that David Perry can have this facetious comment repeated rammed up his ass for the remainder of his career.
Ulairi said:
He'd better go out of his way for once and make some great and compelling games with a lot of innovation like he used to do with Shiny, instead of milking the Matrix franchise with uninspirational and broken titles. One would tend to take him somewhat more serious then. Especially seeing the stupid alternative he came up with. What was it again? One controller using different templates for buttons or something? That just sounds plain stupid. Imagine having to buy a template for every frikkin' game you buy and constantly having to adapt to it. In short, he doesn't sound very convincing to me at all.
Who are you? Please state who you are cause you're scaring me.
Vashu said:
For the most part I would agree with anyone who insults Perry's game designing abilities (I lost all respect for the man after The Matrix), but his belief that the industry isn't ready is a valid one. The Revolution is a big question mark in terms of whether it will change, expand or just plain not be accepted by the videogame market, and while Mr. Perry's comment may have been a bit poorly put, if, as I can only assume, he is talking about the average consumer's reaction to the controller, then for all we know, he may end up being right.
MrSardonic
The nerdiest nerd of all the nerds in nerdland
I didn't see him claim the industry wasn't ready - he thought, after playing with Revmote, that people will want to plug a "normal" controller in instead. He then essentially dismissed the Revmote entirely and said he'll wait 5 years for someone to try and successfully innovate.
civilstrife
Member
Ironacally, do you know who's been shockingly quiet about his ideas about the revolution?
...Miyamoto.
Usually, he can barely keep his mouth shut spouting off ideas about a trilogy of gardening games and whatnot.
If anything, I can't wait to see what he has in store for us.
...Miyamoto.
Usually, he can barely keep his mouth shut spouting off ideas about a trilogy of gardening games and whatnot.
If anything, I can't wait to see what he has in store for us.
PhoenixDark
Banned
civilstrife said:
That's the problem. He was extremely excited over the DS and its capibilities...but we still have yet to see a straight up Miyamoto title for that system. Same with FPS on the DS. We heard they would be amazing on the DS, yet outside of Hunters (which isn't out yet) no good FPS have come out. The exact same things are being said about the Revolution, and it concerns me. Is this all just talk, like with the DS? I mean, has anyone asked Miyamoto if he is working on his own DS game..? -_-
Please don't bring up Nintendogs as refutation. PLEASE. :lol
ThunderEmperor
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dode said:
really wooooooooooohoooooooooooooooooo. trying to build the hype for januaryton
citrus lump
Banned
dode said:
I hope you don't get Nighttrain all riled up with this nonsense.
:lol <----- This smilie is not enough.Error2k4 said:
citrus lump
Banned
dode said:
So where are those major revelations MR INSIDUR???
LordPhlegm
Member
This was a nice thread. Thanks for the effort put into this.