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IMO they should stick to tables that are cheaper to license for now. There's plenty of them.
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well the topic sure lit up on thier facebook page. There are plenty of tables Id like to see more than TZ, that would be alot cheaper to put out. Honestly they really need to work on thier distribution up front. Too many delays for mutliconsole releases. I love what they are giving but I dont want to double dip every time so I dont wait a month for a new table elsewhere.
With nothing but guesswork on the price of the licence, I would gladly pay $10 for just that table, and I still doubt they would be able to afford the licence at that price point. As a pinball game their age demographic of players (and hence the players earning potential is higher) they could probably swing it. At least that is my hope. I would love to "own" that game in some manner without having to lay down 8 or more K, and make room for it.
Hell no, Twilight Zone is the holy grail of a platform like this. I'd pay a premium for it, no question. Hell of a lot better than paying $4000 for the table itself.
Minsc
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I also agree, better to get the more notable tables to attract more attention to the game, though he did say for now... which is true. Right now they need to show people they can release DLC on platforms other than iOS/Android and patch the issues the tables that are out are having.
Yup. I'd be pretty happy with TZ and would gladly pay a decent amount to have it (whether it's Kickstarter or otherwise) but how will it be distributed? And when? On what platform, and will it be exclusive to kickstarters?
100% of their problems right now are related to release/distribution and quality control/assurance. They'd be fine if they nailed those, but with things as they are they look like a VERY unreliable company to expect anything from :/
100% of their problems right now are related to release/distribution and quality control/assurance. They'd be fine if they nailed those, but with things as they are they look like a VERY unreliable company to expect anything from :/
Minsc
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I thought it'd end up as just another table in TPA on all the platforms purchasable to anyone. I don't think they'd ever try to segment it.
I'd also much rather see the stretch goals of the kickstarter be more unreleased, expensively licensed tables than most anything else. This way they don't need to run 20 kickstarters to grab 20 expensive tables, maybe only 4-5
They posted this on thier facebook:
PS3 update may include the second DLC? What a joke.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Not their fault, though--that's on Sony's authorization process.
True, but if I put in, say, $50... where's the incentive when I get no discount or bonuses over Joe Public who can rock up and pay the same price for it?I thought it'd end up as just another table in TPA on all the platforms purchasable to anyone. I don't think they'd ever try to segment it.
I'd also much rather see the stretch goals of the kickstarter be more unreleased, expensively licensed tables than most anything else. This way they don't need to run 20 kickstarters to grab 20 expensive tables, maybe only 4-5
Also... all console updates at least 3 weeks off. Meaning that the Android release is three weeks AND one DLC release ahead of it's console cousins and a couple of weeks off the iOS one. I mean, it's great that they're doing this but they're falling far, far behind in the expectations of not segmenting customers/platforms. Honestly, I think they would've been better off waiting for all platforms with the four tables to be released, getting all the engines performing at their best and in the background, working on DLC and releasing that at staggered times so they come out roughly the same periods. It's like they have completely different teams working in isolation who just release stuff to the public when they can, without any consideration to what the other teams are doing or how it makes the company look.
To top it all off, any table or game bugs are only fixed when DLC comes out. So the inconsistent lighting on existing tables (at least on the 360) has to wait until the DLC is released (another three weeks away at least). The ramp bug on iOS MM (still the main reason why I just cannot play it) has to wait until the next tables come out (still some two/three weeks away as well, going by the difference b/w Android and iOS last time) as well. Guys, just have one team working on implementing the tables and another working on the game engine!
Ugh, this is SO frustrating.
Minsc
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The lighting had to be redone by hand or something they said, it's not just a quick fix.
Blame MS/Sony for the lengthy release process, I don't think it's entirely FarSight's fault here. On Steam and Android the updates go out instantly. iOS is just a matter of days to a week usually. Yes, it sucks that MS/Sony take weeks-month, but that is hardly FarSight's fault imo.
The next iOS DLC is supposed to be soon, next week, and Android was supposed to be this week, dunno if it got delayed again.
As for why put in $50 if you'll just get the same $5 tables as everyone else, I think it's just a matter of do you want to help make the tables happen or not. If not, then maybe there are no $5 tables for everyone else. I also don't think $50 will be base entry, probably more like $10-$20 for a DLC code. Then down the road, you decide if going from $10 to $25 is worth getting another licensed table in the game (and another DLC code for that table).
Yeah, but they said they submitted the first DLC update over a month ago. They also said the authorization process takes about a month from Sony. This means the update they sent must not have passed authorization, so they have to do it all over again. I think Farsight is partly to blame here. Heck, the PS3 initial release got delayed because they sent Sony a build that contained a bug which would have prevented the game from ever being patched/updated with DLC. Farsight clearly has had some problems with their QA and I'm chalking these most recent delays up to that.
Anyone else with the Android version of TPA noticing some weird bugs?
I just downloaded Cirqus Voltaire and there was a point where there were two pinballs on the table even though there should have been one. As soon as one pinball left the board the game acted normally as if my turn ended even though the other pinball was still on the field. Also, the game often doesn't go to front/plunger-view at the start of a ball, even though I can still launch the ball and everything.
I decided to buy Bride of Pinbot a few days ago and it seems buggy too. If I get a high score, it shows up twice on the leaderboard for some reason. Also, one time it declared me grand champion when I was like #4 on the high score list.
I love TPA, but bugs like these are pretty annoying. And it doesn't seem like they've released any bugfix patches since before the first DLC pack.
I just downloaded Cirqus Voltaire and there was a point where there were two pinballs on the table even though there should have been one. As soon as one pinball left the board the game acted normally as if my turn ended even though the other pinball was still on the field. Also, the game often doesn't go to front/plunger-view at the start of a ball, even though I can still launch the ball and everything.
I decided to buy Bride of Pinbot a few days ago and it seems buggy too. If I get a high score, it shows up twice on the leaderboard for some reason. Also, one time it declared me grand champion when I was like #4 on the high score list.
I love TPA, but bugs like these are pretty annoying. And it doesn't seem like they've released any bugfix patches since before the first DLC pack.
Yeah, I guess... just frustrating!
But the $50 I mentioned was more a random figure I plucked out of the air. If they went down a "donor" route it'd be more acceptable, but by nature Kickstarter rewards donors of various amounts. There's no real way of implementing that reward system into something like Pinball Arcade that I can see anyway... unless it's something awesome like your initials as one of the default high scores (maybe randomised amongst backers) on the table you donated for? That could actually be pretty damn cool!.
But as somebody said, why not get a middleware like Unigine for the game?? Easy multiplatform without constant rewriting for each platform. Plus individual trouble on each platform.
The fan forums already are abuzz with the slowdown from the patch, BoPB is near unplayable.
The fan forums already are abuzz with the slowdown from the patch, BoPB is near unplayable.
Fuuuck. If the same thing happens with iOS (which is likely... problems seem across the board with PA, even performance ones) will that mean we'll get new tables, but have to wait ANOTHER month for the next DLC for the existing problems to get fixed?
I'm going to hold off on updating mine when it comes out until there's confirmation.
I'm going to hold off on updating mine when it comes out until there's confirmation.
As a PS3 owner, I'm just giving up on the game and plan on coming back to it next year when there's more tables. The slow drizzle of new tables combined with all the glitches which who knows how long until they are fixed kind of kills all the earlier enthusiasm.
At least if the PC version was out and updated as quick as the iOS version, that'd be a good solution. But PC version is...?
At least if the PC version was out and updated as quick as the iOS version, that'd be a good solution. But PC version is...?
I just tried the old tables for the first time since the CV patch.
BoPB seems.... pretty okay to me? There's a little slowdown here and there but it's nowhere near unplayable. I'm guessing it's worse on different Android devices. On the other hand, TOTAN has way more slowdown than it used to and there's some really nasty screen tearing when it switches perspective, and that definitely wasn't there pre-update. The table does look a whole lot nicer but honestly I'd rather have the old version without the bugs.
Yeah, a good solution for people being pissed about the delays would be to get a PC version out so people who don't have one fucking specific platform it's coming out on actually have an alternative to waiting.
No.
Last thing I heard of it was when Lead Designer said the following on US PSN Blog:
Bobby King on April 8th, 2012 at 11:27 pm said:
The localized European release will be about a month after the North American launch this week.
It's over a month now...
Their twitter account is: https://twitter.com/#!/PinballArcade
If you'd like to tweet and remind them of the EU release.
Thanks for this awesome tip.
I always thought that success in this game depends on luck, not on skill but maybe it's because I've never really put much time into any pinball game.
Now when I'm trying to control the ball I'm beating my previous records by a lot.
My current hi score is 300+ mil, but I think there is a big chance that I will double it in a few days.
Minsc
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You're in luck, just ~12 hours later (iOS update now live):
What's New in Version 1.1.1
New DLC (Circus Voltaire™ and Funhouse™
Medieval Madness fixes for troll bombs and super skill shot.
Multiple Plunger cams added.
A fourth gameplay camera added.
Bug Fixes
Walter Matthau
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I'd love to play these tables, but the quality of the ps3 version sounds like it needs work. They seem way more caught up in getting DLC out fast than addressing the criticisms.
Minsc
Gold Member
Based on what though? They could very well have addressed the criticism's (and they do in mobile/tablet/mac updates), it's just addressing them takes weeks/months on consoles - that is, more time than the game's even been out. So it's completely impossible to have addressed anything even if they did, thanks to the turnaround on consoles.
Has this been posted?
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1067367405/pinball-arcade-the-twilight-zone
Looks like they are going for it!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1067367405/pinball-arcade-the-twilight-zone
Looks like they are going for it!
added_time
Member
Don't worry.. it's still a good idea to post it in here so that fans of the game might see it.
Minsc
Gold Member
Nice, I was hoping the kickstarter would surface at some point... didn't expect it so soon.
As I said in the thread, they are missing out on a ton of money if they don't get a couple tiers between $10 and $100.
Also, the $100 tier gives the table with the operator menu... wonder how that will work for other tables, maybe they will add it in for them later as more DLC?
As I said in the thread, they are missing out on a ton of money if they don't get a couple tiers between $10 and $100.
Also, the $100 tier gives the table with the operator menu... wonder how that will work for other tables, maybe they will add it in for them later as more DLC?
I don't think they're close *enough*, but it definitely went SDTM far less than prior to the pack. An improvement, but yeah... not 100% accurate. They also forgot the fucking drawbridge texture (surely the most noticeable/easiest to fix bug?) but after playing it for longer than when I made my first post, I can definitely say it's better than the initial release. But this is why I have the problem with their release model. Bug? Wait a month for a fix, regardless of platform.
Also, I want to read the review that this quote on the kickstarter came from:
Bahahaha.
Edit: Fuck, did they just mention ST:TNG on their Kickstarter? That should be on top of the fucking page! I'd donate $10 for TZ, but a million for TNG.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
They're stuck waiting for console vendor approval; the DLC has been submitted.
Enjoying Cirqus IMMENSELY right now now. Fun theme, good flow, good depth thanks to stacking multiballs. My one negative might be that it's a bit on the easy side. I nearly hit Wizard mode in my second session, just knocking the ball around (I've never played the physical table).
Funhouse has felt much more meh in comparison, but I'll give it a few more shots.
Re: Twilight Zone Kickstarter - I'm 100% in for $10. It's awesome to see the KS launch so strong... that basically guarantees that the campaign will be successful.
I do think FarSight's (lack of) messaging is going to anger a lot of people. I full expect this table to cost LESS than $10 when it launches. That's fine with me - I'll pitch in a little extra, as an enthusiast, to ensure that this actually happens. But I expect a chorus of people complaining when the table launches at $5 that they could have just waited and saved their $$. There is nothing wrong with what FarSight is doing - it's just the opposite of what has become the "norm" on KS.
Funhouse has felt much more meh in comparison, but I'll give it a few more shots.
Re: Twilight Zone Kickstarter - I'm 100% in for $10. It's awesome to see the KS launch so strong... that basically guarantees that the campaign will be successful.
I do think FarSight's (lack of) messaging is going to anger a lot of people. I full expect this table to cost LESS than $10 when it launches. That's fine with me - I'll pitch in a little extra, as an enthusiast, to ensure that this actually happens. But I expect a chorus of people complaining when the table launches at $5 that they could have just waited and saved their $$. There is nothing wrong with what FarSight is doing - it's just the opposite of what has become the "norm" on KS.