They don't care about PR. He broke and agreement they all signed over this litigation.
Regardless of your views, the law is the law.
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The Pokémon Company Withdraws Settlement Offer in Copyright Lawsuit (this is bad)
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Regardless of your views, the law is the law.
Poor TPC, how will they ever recover?
DragonSworne
Banned
TPC will just sue itself.
LUFTRAUSER
Banned
Oh. Okay then.
I think that's actually why they're doing this; they want to make an example out of this guy so no one else dilutes their brand. I guess he shouldn't have thrown a party with tickets at a major gaming convention like that.
It makes it his fault. He had a deal on the table and decided to take it public instead. Now he's trying to say he took the deal and they can't take it back.
You do not EVER talk about the opposing party in a suit in public because you're going to get burned because it can be used against you in a court of law and destroy your case.
Theanine3D
Member
The wording in the NintendoLife article is blatantly trying to paint Ramar as a villain. It's kind of sad.
I'm glad I don't see the world so black and white like some of the TPC defenders are. Ruining the guy's life over a poster is absolute insanity, regardless of TPC being technically and legally in the right.
I'm glad I don't see the world so black and white like some of the TPC defenders are. Ruining the guy's life over a poster is absolute insanity, regardless of TPC being technically and legally in the right.
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
They're not wrong, but they're still assholes. They're probably going to ruin this dude's life.
Nintendo company sues fan, reported on by Nintendo fansite. Shouldn't be shocking that they're trying to paint him in a negative light.
JonathanNemo
Member
Saying they have the right to sue isn't necessarily defending them.
You don't get to pick and choose what laws you can follow without ramifications. That's how the world works. Sorry.
I doubt it. There are plenty of bleeding hearts that will help him.
Admiral Woofington
Member
God reread the OP. So now they're going with the full extent of the law? On a low-time guy? Please say it ain't so.
Summary, Pokemon Company offered a settlement but the guy never said that. Sounded like he painted the company in a bad light and now have withdrawn the settlement and taking him to court.
Yeah, you don't do that.
I originally thought TPC was being excessive just going straight to court but unaware of the settlement. Now they're going to court because of what he did.
Yeah, you don't do that.
I originally thought TPC was being excessive just going straight to court but unaware of the settlement. Now they're going to court because of what he did.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
When you reach a settlement, there's a non-disclosure agreement that follows the signing.
It's standard procedure.... in everything.
You're not doing a great job at convincing someone to transfer sympathies. He was dumb. So fucking what? It doesn't do anything to make them not look like supervillains. It just makes him seem dumber.
You can recognize the reality of the law without automatically siding with those that are legally correct. The law is not perfect. If you get a speeding ticket for 1 mile over the speed limit, you technically broke the law, but the police officer that gave you that is still a cunt.
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
Did this guy bully you in high school or some shit? Or is it because it's a Nintendo company?
KefkaPalazzo
Member
Business Pikachu vs Business Pikachu?
Sorry? Was his GoFundMe not funded? I'm not saying anything that isn't true. If that's offensive to you then that's your problem.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
We don't, but we do so constantly none the less.
Yeah but can you not see how the dude has fucked up not only once, but twice now by taking the story to the Internet and throwing more bad PR at TPC?
Like, I know TPC brought the bad PR on themselves by suing him in the first place. But think about it outside of the fanboy light that many in this thread and the last have been looking at it.
1. Dude clearly has infringed on TPC properties.
2. Dude then aired the dirty laundry. TPC withdraws settlement. There may have been an agreement in the settlement - we don't know.
Seriously, fanboys who are severely sore about this need to STFU. Just because they make games, they don't need to bend to the peoples will. They can do what they want. Call it defending - I'm just going by the facts.
To people here saying "you don't go public", no shit. This guy is stupid. But TPC look like tremendous bullies going through with what is, yes, their legal right.
They should have just settled. That sends enough of a message to people to stop using their copyright materials. Now they seem vindicitive. What are they going to accomplish from this? Wasting time for everyone and potentially ruining this guy's life.
It's just so unnecessary.
They should have just settled. That sends enough of a message to people to stop using their copyright materials. Now they seem vindicitive. What are they going to accomplish from this? Wasting time for everyone and potentially ruining this guy's life.
It's just so unnecessary.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Somebody with more law knowledge enlighten me:
Is this one of those situations where they HAVE to go to the full extent of the law because if they don't and then a similar situation occurs later it can be used against them that they didn't pursue it this time?
Is this one of those situations where they HAVE to go to the full extent of the law because if they don't and then a similar situation occurs later it can be used against them that they didn't pursue it this time?
A Link to the Past
Banned
He broke an agreement because if he hadn't, he wouldn't be able to pay his settlement.
TPC is basically getting into technical law. They're going to look like shitheads, and it's virtually impossible for TPC to come out of this as well-liked as before they started all of this.
TPC is basically getting into technical law. They're going to look like shitheads, and it's virtually impossible for TPC to come out of this as well-liked as before they started all of this.
ColtraineGF
Member
So, aside from the eventual bad-mouthing the games will get, despite them having nothing to do with the case...
If he had the settlement offer pulled because he was talking to the media (just look at all the stories about "Pokemon suing loyal fan"), why tell people about this latest development before whatever lawyer he is working with can get them to come back to the table?
I'd imagine that revealing this bit of information when nothing is set in stone yet would justify TPC's feeling that he is out to badmouth them.
If he had the settlement offer pulled because he was talking to the media (just look at all the stories about "Pokemon suing loyal fan"), why tell people about this latest development before whatever lawyer he is working with can get them to come back to the table?
I'd imagine that revealing this bit of information when nothing is set in stone yet would justify TPC's feeling that he is out to badmouth them.
They were going to settle, then the guy opened his mouth and never mentioned settlement. You never do that, or leave things out like that.
If he broke an agreement its his fault for going public.
Are you really going to throw around the fanboy label because he's saying that the dude infact did something he shouldn't have?
Are you really going to throw around the fanboy label because he's saying that the dude infact did something he shouldn't have?
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Better go after Kindergartens next, can't have them use murals to attract customers.
Well he couldn't afford the settlement, what was he supposed to do, go into bankruptcy?
Well he couldn't afford the settlement, what was he supposed to do, go into bankruptcy?
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
Of course not.
I have my stance on TPC which was mentioned in the other thread, but the guy has to help himself for crying out loud (why sign a non-disclosure agreement if you're simply going to mouth-off the situation at the press afterwards? - help yourself).
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
$4,000 isn't going to cover ANYTHING in the long run here. At all.
It's not "offensive" to me. I'm just saying that it's somewhat unnerving you're so supportive of a company fucking up some dude's life.
The entire situation is pretty text book.
If you don't protect your IP then you start losing rights to it.
If you let people break NDAs then you loose the ability to have them.
You don't have to like the laws, but they do exist and they are enforced.
It's generally hard for me to sympathize with a person that acts stupidly. The ignorance defense doesn't play well in court or with me
The Faceless Master
Member
fucking scumbag company.
hope they die in mobile freemium hell.
anyone working for them doesn't deserve to make a living wage.
hope they die in mobile freemium hell.
anyone working for them doesn't deserve to make a living wage.
The Pokemon Company does know that this will just paint them in an even worse light, right? I mean it's pretty obvious that even though he did infringe copyright, he is unable to pay the settlement money. Now that they have dropped the settlement, the guy has nothing to lose from showing TPC in the worst light he can or have the media do it now that he got the ball rolling.
I work in PR for a fairly prominent company, and in the short time I've been here it's been made pretty obvious to me that good PR trumps ALL. The law being the law only matters to companies when they're the ones getting in trouble.
Video game companies don't really seem to care about PR though, which is bizarre to me. Are gamers so mindlessly loyal that companies don't care if they piss them off? (Probably, ACS will sell millions, Tony Hawk will sell thousands, and I bet this guy will still buy Pokemon Gen 7 even after this lawsuit)
Yes, I understand. But why now take him back to court? Why withdraw the settlement offer? Is going after him after you already sent a message worth it?
That's what I'm struggling with. Let this guy be stupid and open his mouth. It'll make it all go away faster. Hell, it was already over. They're just reopening the wound.
Yes, The Pokemon Company risked losing the Pokemon copyright if this guy's party took place. Thankfully, they realized what was happening in time to ruin his life.
FTFY. And given how split up the Pokémon franchise is in terms of ownership, I wouldn't get your hopes up. Plus Nintendo would run the risk of losing Game Freak as the developer of the mainline Pokémon games if they try such a stunt.
What text books are you reading? Because this is a total myth.
"It's not MY fault I'm getting sued. It's THEIR fault for suing ME!"
This has nothing to do with eating crow at all
TPC in one word.
Well, being stupid definitely doesn't make things go away faster, more often it just escalates things further.
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
As I've said multiple times in this thread and the last, TPC is not in the wrong here. They are not doing anything, technically or legally - wrong.
It's just a dick move.
And that's not even close to what I said, but alright.
That statement is a lie, but even if it was true they literally wouldn't ever fucking lose anything by allowing a shitty 30-person party to exist and a couple of flyers to be made.
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