PhantomThief
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I assume they will allow you to use the standard fps controls that gtav also has 
. Click in the left stick to run.
. Click in the left stick to run.
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The way Rockstar does in-game sprinting has got to change for RDR2.
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You can't compare linear games with open world
Graphics Horse
Member
A stamina system (visual or not) gives a reason to jog. If they want to make walking the default pace that's ok but from there I've always thought tapping to initiate a jog and holding to sprint would be the best option.
Bl@de
Member
Yeah they really need to work on controls and movement. Good thing that they use the typical controls on PC = Hold shift to sprint (or use Capslock for always sprinting) and press Shift to switch between walking and jogging.
Although I seem to remember that GTA V had different control options
Although I seem to remember that GTA V had different control options
Scapegoat
Member
This was my assumption as well, it makes a lot of sense design wise. When sprinting in real life you can't really swing your head around 360 degrees to check your blindspots, you're focused on where you're running, so makes sense that it requires you to remove your thumb from the right stick.
Maxey
Member
What does this even mean in this context?
Other open world games have controls and character animation closer to linear TPS games like Uncharted and it works just fine.
Why should GTA be a special case?
BibiMaghoo
Member
You could have both.
Hold the button to sprint until the character gets tired, then have the button mash to allow continuing sprint that correctly reflects the straining it would usually be used for, and allowing the player to continue fast movement without a rest in exchange for effort.
That would be ideal.
Hold the button to sprint until the character gets tired, then have the button mash to allow continuing sprint that correctly reflects the straining it would usually be used for, and allowing the player to continue fast movement without a rest in exchange for effort.
That would be ideal.
No, no, no. Sprinting on L3/R3 is one of the worst things in gaming, next to having jumping on a face-button in a game like Uncharted for example. I'm glad there's the button-remapping feature on the PS4. Used it in FFXV and U4 to have the most important actions on the shoulder buttons so I can leave both thumbs as much as possible on both sticks for camera-control. Had Jump/Interact on L1/R1 in U4 and it was so much more comfortable to play. Should be the standard or at least available as a button layout option in the game.
Really? Its God awful and a shame considering they also made May Payne 3.
OT I totally agree. I can't stand mashing a button to sprint.
After Horizon Zero Dawn all the open world game makers need to step it up in the ranged combat and control area. This is no longer an excuse when HZD does it better than a lot of linear shooters.
Unaha-Closp
Member
First Person GTA V solved the button mashing so if they can just do that going forward that would be great. Use the analogue stick to walk or jog and hold down X to sprint. Seems logical to me but I could be wrong.
Yep pretty much. In these crucial areas GTAV is pretty awful. I just find the controls not up to the task and movement is clunky as hell.
Psychoward
Banned
old manatee
Banned
Having to mash a button to run in a giant open world game is the worst.
Psychoward
Banned
I agree sprinting needs a change and the shooting can be improved (better in both Max Payne 3 and Watch Dogs) but I actually like the movement lol. It's a bit clunky yeah but it seems realistic to me.
mickcenary
Member
All of Rockstar's TPS games control horribly. Even Max Payne 3 (half-decent gunplay does not nullify heinously floaty on-foot controls that plague every single one of their games).
This is probably the one gaming "free pass" that grinds my gears the most: Rockstar are flat-out shithouse at basic world-traversal mechanics and their implementation of shooting mechanics is just as pedestrian.
It's an annoying pill to swallow with all the 10/10 scores and hyperbolic accolades that get thrown their way; and it's inexcusable in a world of well-controlling TPS titles. I mean, Guerrilla completely schooled them with their first foray into the genre.
Basically, for me, bringing sprinting mechanics up to a modern standard is the least of Rockstar's problems.
This is probably the one gaming "free pass" that grinds my gears the most: Rockstar are flat-out shithouse at basic world-traversal mechanics and their implementation of shooting mechanics is just as pedestrian.
It's an annoying pill to swallow with all the 10/10 scores and hyperbolic accolades that get thrown their way; and it's inexcusable in a world of well-controlling TPS titles. I mean, Guerrilla completely schooled them with their first foray into the genre.
Basically, for me, bringing sprinting mechanics up to a modern standard is the least of Rockstar's problems.
Icyflamez96
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TylerDurden4321
Member
I like mashing to spring in GTA, sorry.
Would love to have old bicycles in RDR2.
Would love to have old bicycles in RDR2.
At least having the stamnia gauge next to the character. I found it very annoying to throw my eyes to the corner of the screen in Souls game to assess stamnia in twitch reaction fights.
It's the "animation priority" thing. Looks amazing and sometimes controls ok but the feel of it in general is huge rotation arcs, sluggish speed and turning, imprecision and bumping things constantly.
Watch Dogs 2 is a good example of being better to control (still not perfect) but still having animation priority.
lol, the hyperbole
I assume they will allow you to use the standard fps controls that gtav also has
Please no. Clicking any stick to do something whilst you have to move that stick is the worst.
giancarlo123x
Banned
The shadow of the colossus one you mean? Terrible idea.
Maxey
Member
Then why doesn't that logic apply to the rest of the game? I want to actually do a punch motion to punch someone in the game.
MyNameIsRye
Member
It's a video game. Jesus.
SJRB
Gold Member
No no, it's unrealistic to run forever in a realistic game like Red Dead Redemption.
Partially warp into the fifth dimension and slow down time in order to execute 12 shots in perfect succession is totally okay, though.
LoveCake
Member
I am sorry, how often do people run as the character in Red Dead or GTV, that is what the horse and automobiles are for if distance is involved.
"Run for fun?"
Also as others have mentioned the controls can be changed.
I have never found it an issue when I have had the need to run in either R* game, or any other game for that matter.
I would say that clicking the stick is the best option though.
"Run for fun?"
Also as others have mentioned the controls can be changed.
I have never found it an issue when I have had the need to run in either R* game, or any other game for that matter.
I would say that clicking the stick is the best option though.
MugiwaraCole
Member
Sounds like a lot of us need elite controllers.
Truth be told, there's a ton of shit that R* could improve that people give them a pass on simply because of their pedigree.
Why is it hyperbole? I too find the controls to be insufferable in a way that other people clearly don't but i don't see why that makes it's hyperbolic. I'm not dumping 30+ hrs into a game when the most basic mechanic of just moving around and navigating the world feels cumbersome
Why is it hyperbole? I too find the controls to be insufferable in a way that other people clearly don't but i don't see why that makes it's hyperbolic. I'm not dumping 30+ hrs into a game when the most basic mechanic of just moving around and navigating the world feels cumbersome
The Saints Row games had "hold A/X to sprint" and used normal analog control for movement, pressing further meant your player goes to a light jog. And for shooting it not only had dual wielding, it free aimed and allowed movement while shooting so you aren't in one spot getting pelted from enemies.
Two huge reasons I enjoyed playing those SR games over Rockstar games. Hopefully they do implement something new or modify their system so movement and shooting/gunfights aren't so monotonous and anchored.
Grindlefly
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I have no issue with it at all. I liked in gta 3 that how when you completed certain requirements it gave you infinite sprint. They should keep it like that
Arguable, but idk it feels really good. I also really like the Saints Row shooting. SR really does have fantastic control.
Stereogatari
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GTA in HD era has very sluggish gamefeel. They surely can balance the realism of the ragdoll physics with nice smooth 1:1 controls.
In the middle of the screen? No thank you.
BouncyFrag
Member
Having to mash a button to run in any game is not fun. Stamina meters are awful also, especially ones that are in the middle of the screen constantly.
Huge Succeeded
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this truly is the age of disregarding context
You're not alone. Also I agree with OP, at least allow us the option to map it differently to the left stick.