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The Wii U Speculation Thread V: The Final Frontier

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dwu8991

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Well Shane might be really impressed, but for me personally unless I hear;

Tomb Raider, Dead Space 3, GTA 5, Bioshock: Infinite, Resident Evil 6, Beyond Good & Evil 2 and so on from 3rd parties at e3 this year I'll be disappointed.
When it come to Nintendo themselves, I want hear Mario (no NSMB Mii crap), Zelda, Metroid, Starfox, Eternal Darkness 2.


Yes I know I probably have WAY WAY to high expectations.

meh on those 3 party games. not interested.

they're all sequals that improve on past games. nothing more.
 

BGBW

Maturity, bitches.
Yeah, I hope they don't include one and try to keep the price down. I don't want to pay an extra $20-40 for that would be completely useless for anyone who already owns 4 remotes.

And Nintendo isn't the kind of company to release multiple SKUs... or maybe they will as part of their image change...
 

Mithos

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So basically unless its the best launch line up in history by a distance you're going to be disappointed?

Not counting BG&E2, yes I would be disappointed if the games from 3rd parties I listed won't be on Wii U before summer 2013.
And if no real Mario, Zelda, Starfox, Metroid is announced and/or released at release or within the first year of the consoles life, yeah disappointed as well.
 

HylianTom

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Well Shane might be really impressed, but for me personally unless I hear;

Tomb Raider, Dead Space 3, GTA 5, Bioshock: Infinite, Resident Evil 6, Beyond Good & Evil 2 and so on from 3rd parties at e3 this year I'll be disappointed.
When it come to Nintendo themselves, I want hear Mario (no NSMB Mii crap), Zelda, Metroid, Starfox, Eternal Darkness 2.

Yes I know I probably have WAY WAY to high expectations.

I completely understand, believe you me! When it comes to third-party headliner titles, I'm one of the thread's top resident skeptics. I don't trust most of them as far as I can throw 'em, and I take the "I'll believe it when I see it" stance in >90% of these cases.

If anything, I'd predict that we get more "consolation prize" games for the Wii U instead of the final big showcase prize. A Bully 3 instead of GTA V, for example. Resident Evil: Shooty Incidences instead of RE6. And so on..
 

EatChildren

Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
meh on those 3 party games. not interested.

they're all sequals that improve on past games. nothing more.

Tomb Raider is a complete reboot of the series, BioShock: Infinite isn't a 'sequel' to either BioShock and is attempting to do its own thing, and Beyond Good & Evil 2 is a unknown since nobody knows how the game would actually play beyond the one conceptual tech demo.
 

Donnie

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Not counting BG&E2, yes I would be disappointed if the games from 3rd parties I listed won't be on Wii U before summer 2013.
And if no real Mario, Zelda, Starfox, Metroid is announced and/or released at release or within the first year of the consoles life, yeah disappointed as well.

I thought you meant that unless you get:

Tomb Raider
Dead Space 3
GTA 5
Bioshock: Infinite
Resident Evil 6
Beyond Good & Evil 2
Full Mario Game
Full Metroid
Full Zelda
Eternal Darkness 2

All announced for launch you'd be disapointed :)
 

Donnie

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I completely understand, believe you me! When it comes to third-party headliner titles, I'm one of the thread's top resident skeptics. I don't trust most of them as far as I can throw 'em, and I take the "I'll believe it when I see it" stance in >90% of these cases.

If anything, I'd predict that we get more "consolation prize" games for the Wii U instead of the final big showcase prize. A Bully 3 instead of GTA V, for example. Resident Evil: Shooty Incidences instead of RE6. And so on..

I don't see why anyone would be talking about how impressive that line up is if it was full of secondary titles.
 

Nibel

Member
GTAV will be released for 360 and PS3

The Wii U is powerful enough to handle it and from what we've heard the architecture is nice to work with.

I can see GTAV happening - maybe not at its launch, but I'm pretty sure Rockstar thinks about it and that Nintendo tries to convince them
 

HylianTom

Banned
Why would that impress anyone or be described as massive?
Not sure, to be honest. It is a bit puzzling, now that you point this out.

I didn't watch the video, so I can't tell Shane's word choice, but maybe the first-party lineup left him impressed? Not sure, to be honest.
 

Mithos

Member
I thought you meant that unless you get:

Tomb Raider, Dead Space 3, GTA 5, Bioshock: Infinite, Resident Evil 6
Beyond Good & Evil 2, Full Mario Game, Full Metroid, Full Zelda, Eternal Darkness 2

All announced for launch you'd be disapointed :)

That's not possible since a lot of the games are 2013 releases, but I wouldn't mind them getting confirmed for Wii U also at e3.
 

HylianTom

Banned
GTAV will be released for 360 and PS3

The Wii U is powerful enough to handle it and from what we've heard the architecture is nice to work with.

I can see GTAV happening - maybe not at its launch, but I'm pretty sure Rockstar thinks about it and that Nintendo tries to convince them
I haven't the slightest interest in the title, but seeing it announced would be quite a moment. It could be gaming's equivalent of "the shot heard 'round the world," a true sign that Nintendo is indeed serious about their stated goal of pursuing the core.

I just really, really hope that they don't mortgage the farm just to get that one title. It wouldn't make sense to me.
 
GTAV will be released for 360 and PS3

The Wii U is powerful enough to handle it and from what we've heard the architecture is nice to work with.

I can see GTAV happening - maybe not at its launch, but I'm pretty sure Rockstar thinks about it and that Nintendo tries to convince them

Yeah, GTA V WiiU is seriously going to happen, even if it comes late that is were I'm putting my faith
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
so delayed Aliens game with WiiU version's date to be announce at another time smells fishy

something is going on

Seems possible that Nintendo just doesn't want any firm release dates yet and dates will be announced at E3.

On a related note, that trailer did not really impress me.
 

Nibel

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I haven't the slightest interest in the title, but seeing it announced would be quite a moment. It could be gaming's equivalent of "the shot heard 'round the world," a true sign that Nintendo is indeed serious about their stated goal of pursuing the core.

I just really, really hope that they don't mortgage the farm just to get that one title. It wouldn't make sense to me.

If the creators of one of the most succesful franchises ever decide to release their newest baby on the Wii U and if it does well.. this would send a signal to all developers worldwide.
 
Big N really need to show it next gen and get 3rd partys away from PS360 so it not just ports that are Multi-Platform Wii U need to be PS2 of this gen the weaker one but the one to go too and easy to work on

only thing is so many think it too weak and if it not iam sorry that label going to still be there, I know alot of ps360 fan boys are trying hard to put that label on
 
Book 6 dawg. I read those when I was way younger, but I still love them.

It lines up so well, except this elevator is straight to hell hypeville

YES! A cookie for you! :) Read them years ago but I like to re-read them every so often. The prequel series is coming out later this year.
 

schuelma

Wastes hours checking old Famitsu software data, but that's why we love him.
So, I am sure this has been discussed before, but I really do think Wii U could do very well with Japanese developers.

-generally, Japanese 3rd parties did not transition well to the HD generation.

-Unlike the West, the Japanese audience is not nearly as focused on graphics.

-On a similar note, portables have a much bigger share of the core gamer market.

-With some exceptions, the HD twins really did not do well in Japan, hardware or software wise. PS3 software finally caught some momentum, but only after publishers banged their head against a brick wall for years until it cracked a bit.

Basically, I think it would be extremely risky for the Japanese publishers to invest in more new technology with how they were burned last time. Unlike last gen, where they felt that they had to support the next Playstation, IMO that impetus is largely gone. Who knows what will happen, and it would not surprise me if some pubs try to play follow the leader again, but I do think the atmosphere is right for many Japanese pubs to play it safe.
 
Created this video to remind us of what we're leaving behind. It wasn't all shovelware. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFt8KVYR3rw

Well made. I'm currently playing through most of my Wii collection until the press conference. Finished last week: Another Code R, Muramasa, Metroid Prime 3. Currently working on Mario Galaxy 1.
Such an underrated console.

I guess my last games gonna be Project Zero 2, I hope it delivers.
 

Thoraxes

Member
YES! A cookie for you! :) Read them years ago but I like to re-read them every so often. The prequel series is coming out later this year.

:D

I actually had no idea about the prequel stuff. Now I must look into this. Suuuper interested.

(I haven't read anything on it since the last book came out)
 

Nibel

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Created this video to remind us of what we're leaving behind. It wasn't all shovelware. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFt8KVYR3rw

Great video!

Thank you, Wii.

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R

Rösti

Unconfirmed Member
Still launch window.
Wii's launch window was the five consecutive weeks after its North American launch on the 19th of November. 3DS saw a launch window of ten weeks. If we apply the 3DS plan for Wii U, the launch would be on the 4th of December (2nd or 9th to conform with Nintendo's Sunday product launches). If we apply the Wii plan for Wii U, the launch would be on the 8th (6th or 13th) of January next year. This is of course nothing rock solid and shouldn't be used as guidance for when the Wii U is going to launch, but it shows what the preceding systems have had for launch window. It all depends on secondary and primary market trends, commercialism trends, profit forecasts and of course how many titles are ready for launch window. So it could be greater or lesser than ten or five weeks, I would say teen weeks are a good launch window for a product of this magnitude.

What makes this rather difficult is that industry quote from Fubon Research (regarding Lingsen's involvement with Wii U) stating that the system will be launched Q3 (1st of July to the 30th of September) this year. With a large partner as Lingsen, would you wanna say something like that if you didn't have proof of it? They could have said "is expected to launch in Q3", but instead they said "will be released in 3Q12". And as investigated, Lingen's fiscal year is the same as the calendar year.

Reported in two documents (one is linked in the starting post):
https://fubonresearch.fbs.com.tw/FILE/17223.pdf
https://fubonresearch.fbs.com.tw/FILE/17226.pdf
 

Deguello

Member
So, I am sure this has been discussed before, but I really do think Wii U could do very well with Japanese developers.

-generally, Japanese 3rd parties did not transition well to the HD generation.

-Unlike the West, the Japanese audience is not nearly as focused on graphics.

-On a similar note, portables have a much bigger share of the core gamer market.

-With some exceptions, the HD twins really did not do well in Japan, hardware or software wise. PS3 software finally caught some momentum, but only after publishers banged their head against a brick wall for years until it cracked a bit.

Basically, I think it would be extremely risky for the Japanese publishers to invest in more new technology with how they were burned last time. Unlike last gen, where they felt that they had to support the next Playstation, IMO that impetus is largely gone. Who knows what will happen, and it would not surprise me if some pubs try to play follow the leader again, but I do think the atmosphere is right for many Japanese pubs to play it safe.

I'd have to agree. What Nintendo is offering is a moderate step forward on graphical technology, enough to be considered next generation, but not so much that a developer will have to rewrite the book on how everything is done. They are, in a sense, offering Japanese devs (and bottom-line minded, sane developers in the West) a sort of "safe zone" With much more power if they want it, but not so much you kill yourself making a few games. With the way Japan typically does their in-game artwork and textures, Wii U is more than enough power.
 

blu

Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
It really is. Makes me realize how much of a great time I've had over the past six years. I'll have to do some sort of going-away ceremony when the Wii gets retired, haha..
Don't retire it! It's a great little homebrew machine.

(and it made me want to play Zack & Wiki again!)
I'm grinding an axe for capmcom until they release a sequel.
 

HylianTom

Banned
Big N really need to show it next gen and get 3rd partys away from PS360 so it not just ports that are Multi-Platform Wii U need to be PS2 of this gen the weaker one but the one to go too and easy to work on

only thing is so many think it too weak and if it not iam sorry that label going to still be there, I know alot of ps360 fan boys are trying hard to put that label on

So, I am sure this has been discussed before, but I really do think Wii U could do very well with Japanese developers.

-generally, Japanese 3rd parties did not transition well to the HD generation.

-Unlike the West, the Japanese audience is not nearly as focused on graphics.

-On a similar note, portables have a much bigger share of the core gamer market.

-With some exceptions, the HD twins really did not do well in Japan, hardware or software wise. PS3 software finally caught some momentum, but only after publishers banged their head against a brick wall for years until it cracked a bit.

Basically, I think it would be extremely risky for the Japanese publishers to invest in more new technology with how they were burned last time. Unlike last gen, where they felt that they had to support the next Playstation, IMO that impetus is largely gone. Who knows what will happen, and it would not surprise me if some pubs try to play follow the leader again, but I do think the atmosphere is right for many Japanese pubs to play it safe.
I agree. I know I said earlier that I'm the thread skeptic on third-parties, but my main source of third-party hope is Japan. Developers bet against Nintendo and paid dearly, and I think at the very least they'll be a bit more hesitant to put so many eggs in one console-maker's basket.
 
I agree. I know I said earlier that I'm the thread skeptic on third-parties, but my main source of third-party hope is Japan. Developers bet against Nintendo and paid dearly, and I think at the very least they'll be a bit more hesitant to put so many eggs in one console-maker's basket.

And they can always port Wii U games later on but then most only think about here and now and Wii U i can see doing well in Japan

alot of third-party in Japan fail become they try for 360 at the start all them RPG that didnt do a thing for them no one wanted them on 360
 

Penguin

Member
Created this video to remind us of what we're leaving behind. It wasn't all shovelware. :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFt8KVYR3rw

You should make a thread for this
I think all systems should get a going away thread


So, I am sure this has been discussed before, but I really do think Wii U could do very well with Japanese developers.

-generally, Japanese 3rd parties did not transition well to the HD generation.

-Unlike the West, the Japanese audience is not nearly as focused on graphics.

-On a similar note, portables have a much bigger share of the core gamer market.

-With some exceptions, the HD twins really did not do well in Japan, hardware or software wise. PS3 software finally caught some momentum, but only after publishers banged their head against a brick wall for years until it cracked a bit.

Basically, I think it would be extremely risky for the Japanese publishers to invest in more new technology with how they were burned last time. Unlike last gen, where they felt that they had to support the next Playstation, IMO that impetus is largely gone. Who knows what will happen, and it would not surprise me if some pubs try to play follow the leader again, but I do think the atmosphere is right for many Japanese pubs to play it safe.

I wonder if this could help the Vita as well. Where the two consoles kind of share games to help out on cost
 

HylianTom

Banned
Don't retire it! It's a great little homebrew machine.

I'm grinding an axe for capmcom until they release a sequel.
Hmm. I do have two Wiis (one sealed for posterity), but they'll end-up being GameCube players going into the future. I guess I could get into homebrew once the U arrives. Just gotta figure out how I'll set it all up under the TV.

(I'm TV shopping right now so that it's over and done before launch, so keeping in mind number/type of connectors is actually something I need to reconsider.)

And Z&W is remarkable in that it got my partner to become absolutely obsessed with a video game - something I have never seen before in our 16 years. It's definitely one of the under-recognized, defining gems of this generation as far as I'm concerned.
 

SRidge52

Banned
Just woke up from a nap. Where the hell is that IdeaMan guy with his insider info or whatever? I just want to hear more stuff relating to Wii U whether it's BS or not.

Damnit.
 
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