They probably have decided on date and a price range, but want to gauge E3 reception before nailing the price down. Then they'll probably announce the price in late July either at the investor meeting or on Nintendo Direct; two months before launch as usual.
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They probably have decided on date and a price range, but want to gauge E3 reception before nailing the price down. Then they'll probably announce the price in late July either at the investor meeting or on Nintendo Direct; two months before launch as usual.
Grampa Simpson
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When i become a member and if i can create a thread about it
But the other, non-teasing part of my message (completed with a following one about this delay story) is already interesting
Post 77 more times?
EDIT: Are you creating speculation thread 6?
Fixed for ya.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
This confirms it's not a hard drive as guek does not like the idea.
By the way, are SSD drives still prohibitively expensive in consoles? Even small 75GB ones?
AceBandage
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I'm betting it's expandable RAM.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
PM it to me bro, I bam-promise that I won't tell a soul.
GameplayWhore
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So it sounds like we'll perhaps get a medly. Normally, inventory is on the touch screen, but:
* when in battle, use the motion control on the DRC to position your shielf for blocking
* pull back on the DRC to get that fish!
* in long-distance combat, angle of your DRC aims your bow
* shake the DRC to get that weird grabby enemy off you!
There we go. Aonuma gets everything he wants.
I believe you're thinking of PS2 games in PCSX2. Geometry wise Wii games hold up pretty well in HD (at the technically competent ones do).
efyu_lemonardo
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I'm betting it's expandable RAM.
why is that impossible again?
No i think some people like GP or Nibel are prepared for this, and they would do a better job for consolidating the news/rumors in the OP as i can be absent for a moment from time to time.
NinjaTehFish
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You know, A Friend of a friend of mine could help with that.......
I'm betting it's expandable RAM.
Only buying it if it's red.
Nintendo won't announce the price until they absolutely have to (basically whenever retailers have to start putting orders in). Currency markets still have the potential to be quite volatile for the rest of the year, and Nintendo deal in Yen, so they don't want to commit to $//£ prices in June only for appreciation of the Yen to wipe out their already slim profit margins before the console even launches. They probably already have a good idea of the Japanese price of the console, but for everyone else they'll wait to see how the currencies behave, and that's true whether it launches in September or November.
I'm of the opinion that the "Oban" rumour was actually a conflation of a number of different sources that somehow got mixed together. Someone heard that Fab 8 was doing an initial run on console parts involving IBM and AMD, they heard elsewhere that Durango dev kits were coming off the production lines, they heard from yet another source that MS would be using a Southern Islands based GPU codenamed "Oban" in their next console, and they come to the conclusion that what was being made at Fab 8 was a CPU/GPU SoC for Durango with an SI GPU.
The one thing we do know (from official PR) is that Fab 8 did a first run of production chips in January, they were manufactured at 32nm and utilised IBM's eDRAM. This lines up pretty well to what we'd expect for the Wii U's GPU:
- Fab 8 is run by Global Foundries (AMD's manufacturing partner) and also involves Renesas (formerly NEC, who manufactured GC and Wii GPUs)
- The Wii U GPU has eDRAM onboard
- Most people have been expecting a 32nm/40nm chip
- The timing fits
- The quantity fits
- The rumours of Fab 8 making a console chip
It doesn't really tell us much about the console (aside from the 32nm process for the GPU), but it's interesting nonetheless, if true.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!
if only I could photoshop an internal HDD in there...
HULK DON'T LIKE NOISEY BOX. HULK SMASH HDD!
Agent Unknown
Member
Hmmmm, I like this theory. I like it a lot.
I Stalk Alone
Member
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Actually, it's games like Arkumn City on PC, where I think the console versions look better as the geometry doesn't match the super high textures on the PC.
THE:MILKMAN
Member
I wonder if these final dev kits resemble what the final retail version will look like?
And that it has changed a lot from previous dev kits?
Not sure if everyone here would like the Wii U we saw last year to change much though?
And that it has changed a lot from previous dev kits?
Not sure if everyone here would like the Wii U we saw last year to change much though?
GameplayWhore
Member
This rationale bugs me. Streaming complex 3D scenes to 4 different screens at once for splitscreen gaming on the far slower Nintendo 64 wasn't free performance-wise, either, but it had gameplay advantages that outweighed the costs.
I like your info you give, but you're getting to sound a bit pretentious. You don't have a duty to perform.
GameplayWhore
Member
He becomes a Member in two weeks. That's not a horrible amount of time to wait.
That's my baby. I've already mastered the necessary nooks and crannies of the GIMP to be worthy of this honour.
AceBandage
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efyu_lemonardo
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two Upads plus a widescreen TV is 3 points of view, 4 if you decide to split the TV screen which is definitely possible. Seems like more than enough..
Waiting for anything for any amount of time in this thread seems like an eternity. Hype does something to the flow of time I swear.
Woah chums, I bagsied Wii U Spec 6 in the last thread?
Hmm, you can have it but can I have some input?
Yeah I believe stuff like this was mentioned before, the word Oban has some ties to Japanese culture.
So it sounds like we'll perhaps get a medly. Normally, inventory is on the touch screen, but:
* when in battle, use the motion control on the DRC to position your shielf for blocking
* pull back on the DRC to get that fish!
* in long-distance combat, angle of your DRC aims your bow
* shake the DRC to get that weird grabby enemy off you!
There we go. Aonuma gets everything he wants.
That would be the extent I would want motion control to be like in the U Zelda.
Skyward Sword was fun when it came to combat, but the Wii was all about the remote where as the U is about the tablet. I wouldn't want to switch between the two every so often. I am perfectly fine going back to pressing a button to swing the sword.
I Stalk Alone
Member
And in these two weeks someone else will leak the rest of the info he has saved up.
The info given so far has been good and has opened up speculation. It is what matters for this thread. It gets people thinking for themselves even if some get annoyed.
Yeah it lines up. I guess I don't like being too optimistic when it comes to nintendo hardware. Until we hear officially that it's a 32nm process, I'm banking on 40nm
I'm betting it's expandable RAM.
Just my opinion, i already know all the hindrances/problems/bad marketing move/questions/XXX that it would generate, but i would love if Nintendo planned an advanced expansion pack including a boost of memory and a graphical processor (like those external graphic cards for laptops, etc.), scheduled for like 3 years in the lifespan of the system. The novelty will come from the fact that Nintendo would already charge the consumers for this expansion, from the Wii U price, and users would receive this piece of hardware automatically (if they choose to fill a request when they first go online with their personal address) or could go retrieve it at retailers with a ticket. All this to avoid the discrepancy implied by expansion pack only include in certain games.
Just a way to catch up some of the technical gap with their competitors while still launching first. They won't need to do it, Wii U is primarily an experience, and it will be power-wise efficient and powerful enough for Nintendo and a lot of third-parties needs, but my techie-me would like to see that.
hardcastlemccormick
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I've been following these threads on and off since the first one and I'm still puzzled. I understand that they're fun for discussion purposes, but is there any other reason to give any legitimate consideration to Ideaman's rumor posts?
Just trying to follow the conversation here, not trying to light any fires.
I Stalk Alone
Member
Yes, but are you an expert on it?
I mentioned this before but the disc drive is probably around the same speed as a USB 2.0 HDD, which in itself is 2x faster than the 360 disc drive and 3x faster than the PS3 disc drive.
AceBandage
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Are you saying Nintendo shot themselves in the foot?
"nurture the speculation", you can add after "as everyone on this thread". I already praised the participation of everyone here
You totally got the point
It's better than spoon-feeding the thread by revealing all that i know in 5 lines, it's more fun, better entertainment, more hype-building for E3, and above all, more interesting to see the ideas and reasoning developed.
Marvel vs Tekken lookin' kinda one-sided.RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH!!
Well I have seen them in anime before!
efyu_lemonardo
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I bet the new feature in devkit 5 that will make us all happy is this:
RUMOR - Wii U controller range may have gotten a serious boost - range shouldn't be limited to a single room - possibly not even just a single floor.
RUMOR - Wii U controller range may have gotten a serious boost - range shouldn't be limited to a single room - possibly not even just a single floor.
Aren't you talking about the debug unit they send out to reviewers and such? Dev kits are usually not the form factor of the system. I'm just thinking of those Wii systems with a green front to them.
Anyway, delays usually means something went wrong so it's strange that your so positive about it Ideaman.
4 pads is rendering to five sources, going to need more than Oban for that! 2 at most.
AceBandage
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Goddammit give this man a "member" card already lol
No these dev kits are like big DVD player, or more old VHS recorder/player. Big bland box, far bigger than the Wii U case we saw at E3 2011.
And yes, it was implied in my post, the boxes changed between V4 and those ones, aesthetically (from the outside) if it's what you wondering
I Stalk Alone
Member
He's not pretentious, it is because he is French.
I don't see the pretentious maybe slightly overhyped but its almost E3!!!! its forgiven.
Fourth Storm
Member
It seems to make sense. SA's source simply heard about the AMD and IBM joint chip and jumped to conclusions.
As for the GPU, if it was taped out that late in the game, I see GCN as a very real possibility. Maybe I'm headed for a heartbreak, but the benefits in power consumption and predictable performance seem like something Nintendo would be interested in. The HD7770 has a 640:40:16 core config, which may make sense of the early dev kits. If they downclocked it to around 600 Mhz and used DDR3 instead of GDDR5, seems to me the TDP would be in WiiU's ballpark even with the slightly larger process node.
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