Equanimity
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It performs at a locked 60fps with high quality shadows on a 1080p TV.
Naughty Dog has removed the options to downscale 1800p and 4K.
The device in question costs $200 afaik.
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TLOU PRO Patch 1.08 - Supersampling removed from all modes [Up: New DF video]
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It performs at a locked 60fps with high quality shadows on a 1080p TV.
Naughty Dog has removed the options to downscale 1800p and 4K.
The device in question costs $200 afaik.
No it does not play the same as the regular PS4 version it play the mode that is 1080P 30fps on the regular PS4 at 1080P 60fps on the PS4 Pro.
Equanimity
Member
The Pro version is locked at 60fps unlike the base PS4.
Unless they removed it in yesterday's patch, it should.
Equanimity
Member
Yep.
Ah, they only removed it from TLOU because of that performance difference.
Should've left it as an option.
Karspankey
Banned
Not entirely as the 4K mode ran at a perfect 30fps. It's absolutely bonkers that they removed the option for 1080p users.
Miggytronz
Member
At the end of the day this is the sole reason this thread exist people. Players want this feature back including myself.
thelastword
Banned
Upscaling may be free in the traditional sense, but if you approximate pixels like you do in checkerboarding, it's certainly not, well if you consider checkerboarding scaling anyway......
One thing I realize you are focused on is the scaling, but be aware I'm telling you that downsampling is not free, I'm speaking of the entire process, not just the scaling.
Obviously, downsampling in-engine on a game to game basis incurs a GPU pull that has to be catered for in advance, hence why you don't see the penalty in the faceoff. The penalty is already incurred prior to the scaling.
Consoles are still not directly PC's, console ram/cpu and gpu are all linked on one pipeline and share similar bandwidth, doing downsampling in-engine per game is not as free as you're thinking. I'm inclined to believe a better solution is imminent on an OS or firmware level, who knows, perhaps the checkerboard hardware in the pro will assist with the implementation of a universal downsampling feature on the console.
Having said that, I'm not denying or suggesting that ND will not bring back supersampling in-engine, they're may very well be working on that, but I imagine they would have to do further optimizations in order to prevent reversion to 1800p framerates prior to this patch.....Hey, a very valid reason why a supersampling patch is not out yet.
Are you serious? You ask for receipts, when it is a known fact that downsampling is not free. NOTE: I've been using the term downsampling in every post I've made.
Stranger still, you ask for receipts and yet you are the one suggesting that the resolution of alpha was tweaked to net us a 5-10fps increase in 1800p mode...So I'd love to see a video demonstration of those worsened alpha effects. You are actually suggesting that the game was downgraded in the latest patch. I wonder where these tales are coming from.
Also, performance at 1800p is not at OG PS4 levels, it's better than OG PS4 levels.....
Yea, they could've even gone so far as to make the downsampling require extra steps and warnings to enable, leaving the non-downsampled mode as default. There's too many ways to handle this better than just removing the option.
I still can't believe you compared him with you and I. That cut deep, friend-o.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Welcome to the family, son.
Xaero Gravity
NEXT LEVEL lame™
Edit: Double post.
Not uncommon with you to be wrong.
Danke danke, we should play shit. PM me your PSN name.
Always-honest
Banned
This
I admit my mistakes. Unlike *cough* some people *cough*
If you're about to play R2 on PS4 Pro, we're not friends.
R2?
Nah, Modern Warfare is all I need.
JonathanPower
Member
So what's to gain at setting the Pro at 1080p@30fps? Nothing at all?
matrix-cat
Member
More cinematic-ness.
A simple "downsample" checkbox in 30FPS mode would be perfect. No need to mess with preformance 60fps mode
If you downsample from 1800p or 2160p it doesn't make a ton of difference, both eliminate the jaggies and shimmering quite well. But 60 FPS is always preferable. I don't need no stinking buggy "HQ" shadows.
So get rid of 30 fps mode altogether and give us a supersampling switch instead! See? I can word my preferences in a way that it squashes yours, too.
The Dishonored 2 scenario is now very similar.
- 1080p supersampling is missing for no reasons. 4k mode works fine. And downsampling works if you attach a 4k monitor and then switch to 1080p, but it's closed off to Full Hd users.
- Developers are aware of the issue but they're not answering and they skip every questions on the matter.
- A massive patch is out but it fixes nothing.
- 1080p supersampling is missing for no reasons. 4k mode works fine. And downsampling works if you attach a 4k monitor and then switch to 1080p, but it's closed off to Full Hd users.
- Developers are aware of the issue but they're not answering and they skip every questions on the matter.
- A massive patch is out but it fixes nothing.
thatJohann
Member
Hopefully, this signals system-wide downsampling coming to Ps4 Pro in future FW update like the other guy said on the Dishonored 2 update thread.
bonchooski
Member
Everytime this gets bumped I start to pitch a tent, then it just comes crashing down....
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Wow... iterative consoles... I know how Sony can fix it, just wait for PS4 Pro S next year.
Sigh...
How does this relate?
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Wait ... does this mean what I think it means?
It plays the same as a regular ps4 @ 30fps since there is no supersampling. Also @ 60fps I'd take supersampling over slight shadow improvement anyday. 1-3 framedrop every blue moon is blown out of proportion.
Always-honest
Banned
Nada.
But we have more negative news on the general story.
- Dishonored 2 has a big update but without the supersampling fix. Bethesda and Arkane don't want to comment.
- The Ezio Collection runs at perfect 4k/ 30 fps locked but no downsampling for 1080p users. Supersampling works only for 4k tv if switching to 1080p
- To be verified: according to some users the Last Guardian 1.03 patch slightly improves the framerate for the 4k mode. So now the 1080p mode runs similar to 4k mode, but without supersampling.
Yeah, this is an issue for 1080p users like myself and is concerning.
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
WTF Sony? This is started to itch me the wrong way. Especially because it doesn't seem that hard to fix.
This is NOT 4 the players....
This is NOT 4 the players....
dmix90
Member
The list of "upgrade to 4K tv even if you don't need it....peasant" releases is only growing....
This is infuriating. My blood is really boiling when i read about this. It's just hilarious especially coming from PC....... not only you need to basically beg for PRO patches you also need to beg for basic functionality for already patched games if you happen to have 1080p set.
This is infuriating. My blood is really boiling when i read about this. It's just hilarious especially coming from PC....... not only you need to basically beg for PRO patches you also need to beg for basic functionality for already patched games if you happen to have 1080p set.
Negotiator
Member
Smells like an SDK update is coming soon and they're bound by NDA...
JonathanPower
Member
What does it smell like?
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Catching up, but is the idea that a future OS update will apply SS on 1080p mode system wide? Isn't that kinda thread worthy to assuage the outrage?
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