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[ElectricBlanketFire]

What percent chance would you like to update that to now?

I'll stick with zero.

 

[nomster]

If it goes to Federal court then everything will come out. That could be either really good or really bad for Brady. Only time will tell.

Doubt it. They aren't going to investigate what happened in federal court, just whether the NFL has the authority implement suspensions in the manner they did.

 

[Trey]

Probably because Hardy missed all of last season

then he played in as many legitimate football games as the Patriots last season.

 

[Lynn616]

If it goes to Federal court then everything will come out. That could be either really good or really bad for Brady. Only time will tell.

Exactly, Get all the phone records and prove this one way or another.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

Stephen A also mentioned he's hearing Brady destroyed his phone.

Did he mention if the phone was asking for it?

 

[BobLoblaw]

How the fuck does Goodell justify lowering a wife beaters suspension from 10 to 4 games while keeping Brady 4 game suspension for "maybe possibly knowing something but we're not sure."

It's that idiot Goodell. The man who brought us the Ray Rice two game suspension scandal. He's the absolute worse when it comes to handling situations like this. Can't wait to see how Goodell handles getting stomped by the courts (again).

 

[Crisco]

This will not go to federal court, unless Brady also retires and dissociates himself from the Patriots first. Kraft/Belichick don't want federal investigators anywhere near Foxboro.

 

[Skellig Gra]

Doubt it. They aren't going to investigate what happened in federal court, just whether the NFL has the authority implement suspensions in the manner they did.

That's a lot of hypotheticals for something that hasn't even happened yet.

 

[chadskin]

Exactly, Get all the phone records and prove this one way or another.

They'll probably have to ask the NSA whether they kept all of their text messages as the folks involved made sure they were deleted from the devices once the rumors about deflated balls popped up. IIRC the texts cited in the report had to be recovered with "forensic tools".

 

[KHarvey16]

This will not go to federal court, unless Brady also retires and dissociates himself from the Patriots first. Kraft/Belichick don't want federal investigators anywhere near Foxboro.

Federal investigators? It would be a civil case and the NFL would lose badly.

 

[DrForester]

Given that there was apparently zero evidence found on the ball handler cells that implicated Brady, what exactly do people expect to find?

 

[Shamrock7r]

Federal investigators? It would be a civil case and the NFL would lose badly.

why would they lose?

 

[Stet]

Given that there was apparently zero evidence found on the ball handler cells that implicated Brady, what exactly do people expect to find?

A bucket of tears.

 

[Quotient]

why would they lose?

Here is a summary of what Brady and the NFL would argue:

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/07/27/tom-brady-nflpa-deflategate-suspension-federal-court

 

[Shamrock7r]

Here is a summary of what Brady and the NFL would argue:

http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/07/27/tom-brady-nflpa-deflategate-suspension-federal-court

Thanks, going to give it a read

 

[friskykillface]

still have the superbowl W
B^)




Cowboys vs Pats will be meh, who wants to see Jimmy beat Romo by 23424439283 points

 

[BronsonLee]

Never Trust Stephen A Smith

 

[entremet]

Never Trust Stephen A Smith

He was right about Lebron possibly going back to Cleveland way before anyone thought it was a possibility.

He may be a loudmouth and annoying, but his sources are pretty on point.

 

[KHarvey16]

why would they lose?

Because they violated the process by having underlings hand out the suspensions on top of using the most hilariously inept investigation to base it on. Anyone who reads that report and thinks it will stand up to even the most basic scientific scrutiny is delusional.

The NFLPA wrote a letter that sums up the issues and precedents that will come into play.

https://nflpaweb.blob.core.windows.net/media/Default/PDFs/Media Resources/Brady_Appeal_Letter.pdf

 

[jmdajr]

That's good

 

[spyder_ur]

The NFL leak machine has begun to spin up I see. An absolute joke.

 

[nomster]

That's a lot of hypotheticals for something that hasn't even happened yet.

It's not hypothetical, Brady/the nflpa will be challenging the league's ability to suspend, not the results of the investigation.

 

[BobLoblaw]

He was right about Lebron possibly going back to Cleveland way before anyone thought it was a possibility.

He may be a loudmouth and annoying, but his sources are pretty on point.

He's also been wrong about the NBA Finals winner for the last five years as well.

 

[GalacticToast]

#FreeBrady

 

[Skellig Gra]

It's not hypothetical, Brady/the nflpa will be challenging the league's ability to suspend, not the results of the investigation.

Sure it is, we don't even know if the suspension was upheld yet. You are getting way ahead of yourself.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

This is really going to be a ride. The inner politics of billionaire owners are an enigma

And don't forget. Smith works for ESPN.

That's being a joke of a joke.

 

[Limited Edition]

It will be reduced to two games, and life will go on. Not that it really matters, since the Colts had 0 chance to win that game anyways.

 

[Gigglepoo]

It will be reduced to two games, and life will go on. Not that it really matters, since the Colts had 0 chance to win that game anyways.

Brady should fight if he's suspended even one minute.

 

[nomster]

Sure it is, we don't even know if the suspension was upheld yet. You are getting way ahead of yourself.

So your first post was really just a trap to get people to respond to your hypothetical? Got it. I responded to your opinion on what would happen IF it went to Federal Court.

 

[spyder_ur]

I think I've said this once or twice before, but these leaks and reports have to be sign of an incoming decision, right? Right?

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

I think I've said this once or twice before, but these leaks and reports have to be sign of an incoming decision, right? Right?

It's going to come before training camp, which starts this week.

It's coming soon.

 

[Talladega Knight]

Did he mention if the phone was asking for it?

did you steal this from Katie Nolan's twitter?

 

[entremet]

He's also been wrong about the NBA Finals winner for the last five years as well.

That's a totally different type of reporting, though.

 

[bchamba]

Goodell should be suspended for the unnecessary hardships he's making the patriots and Brady go through

 

[chadskin]

Goodell should be suspended for the unnecessary hardships he's making the patriots and Brady go through

Suspended to Hawaii for a full 4-week vacation. On me! Go Roger! Goodell 2024!

 

[Kinsella]

When I want NFL news, I always turn to Screamin' A. Smith since he's always displayed such a huge knowledge of the game.

LOL the idiot is even backtracking on his own phone breaking rumor. "I don't know." What a clown.

 

[Skellig Gra]

So your first post was really just a trap to get people to respond to your hypothetical? Got it. I responded to your opinion on what would happen IF it went to Federal Court.

No, I was commenting on your original post about what was going to happen in Federal court when we don't even know if the suspension was upheld. All I'm saying is it's too early to make definitive statements.

 

[TheLostBigBoss]

When I want NFL news, I always turn to Screamin' A. Smith since he's always displayed such a huge knowledge of the game.

LOL the idiot is even backtracking on his own phone breaking rumor. "I don't know." What a clown.

ESPN has zero credibility. They haven't even acknowledged or recanted their original tweets about the, "11 out of 12 balls 2psi under limit" shit.

They just say things and pretend they didn't when it turns out to be bullshit.

 

[Quotient]

ESPN has zero credibility. They haven't even acknowledged or recanted their original tweets about the, "11 out of 12 balls 2psi under limit" shit.

They just say things and pretend they didn't when it turns out to be bullshit.

I can understand why they won't. ESPN can lose a lot of money by really pissing off the NFL.

The tweet by Mortensen is what propelled this to a national story. The fact the NFL never responded to that tweet by either dismissing it as false, or revealing the actual numbers, should concern every owner and fan in the league.

 

[TheContact]

Stephen A also mentioned he's hearing Brady destroyed his phone.

Stephen A is a douchebag shrill and will say anything about people he hates

 

[Lynn616]

They'll probably have to ask the NSA whether they kept all of their text messages as the folks involved made sure they were deleted from the devices once the rumors about deflated balls popped up. IIRC the texts cited in the report had to be recovered with "forensic tools".

I was thinking the phone company would have access to the txt messages on their end.

 

[entremet]

Stephen A is a douchebag shrill and will say anything about people he hates

Looks like he was right ;P

Again, SAS is not Chris Broussard lol. Loudmouth yes. Annoying yes, but his sources are usually solid.

 

[JABEE]

Destroying evidence pertinent to an investigation. Where have I heard this before?

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

http://thebiglead.com/2015/08/11/ben-affleck-nanny-christine-ouzounian-tom-brady/

No wonder Tom didn't want the NFL to have his private phone.