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Tom Brady beats NFL in 'Deflategate' court case, league's 4-game suspension nullified

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phanphare

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DrForester said:
Power Grab. Show the players and owners that the NFL can punish any team, any player, at any time without any evidence. If Goodell had won, it would have set a terrible precedent.
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it also doesn't hurt that many NFL fans have an irrational hatred for the Pats and Goodell needed a win badly after last season
 
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KHarvey16

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They also started the whole thing and didn't want to look like assholes by backing down and admitting none of them knew what the ideal gas law is. They convinced themselves there was cheating, even to the point of leaking incorrect information and not even bothering to correct it.
 
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DrForester

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KHarvey16 said:
They also started the whole thing and didn't want to look like assholes by backing down and admitting none of them knew what the ideal gas law is. They convinced themselves there was cheating, even to the point of leaking incorrect information and not even bothering to correct it.
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And admitting that this was a minor regulations the refs didn't even enforce. Over inflated balls, under inflated balls, admitting that sometimes they just felt the balls to see if they felt right...
 
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shem935

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Dang. That is all ridiculous. Thanks for the replies. Seems like the players should get better at bargaining, or someone should fire goodell.
 
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thekad

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phanphare said:
blatant

(of bad behavior) done openly and unashamedly

completely lacking in subtlety; very obvious
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Yup, the definition of Brady's behavior. Openly and unashamed. It's sad that he'll probably get harshly booed everywhere outside of Foxboro now. No one likes a cheater. Everyone hates a crybaby.

We'll have to see if he can handle that sort of scrutiny. Judging from his reaction to the consequences of his cheating, it's not looking good.
 
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teruterubozu

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thekad said:
Yup, the definition of Brady's behavior. Openly and unashamed. It's sad that he'll probably get harshly booed everywhere outside of Foxboro now. No one likes a cheater. Everyone hates a crybaby.

We'll have to see if he can handle that sort of scrutiny. Judging from his reaction to the consequences of his cheating, it's not looking good.
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An athlete getting booed. Oh the horror.
 
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ParityBit

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thekad said:
Yup, the definition of Brady's behavior. Openly and unashamed. It's sad that he'll probably get harshly booed everywhere outside of Foxboro now. No one likes a cheater. Everyone hates a crybaby.

We'll have to see if he can handle that sort of scrutiny. Judging from his reaction to the consequences of his cheating, it's not looking good.
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Wow, your good at spewing verbal vomit, yet you still have not backed it up. Typical forum board troll attitude.
 
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thekad said:
Yup, the definition of Brady's behavior. Openly and unashamed. It's sad that he'll probably get harshly booed everywhere outside of Foxboro now. No one likes a cheater. Everyone hates a crybaby.

He'll have to see if he can handle that sort of scrutiny. Judging from his reaction to the consequences of his cheating, it's not looking good.
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joke post im assuming
 
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HocusPocus

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You get a good lawyer in the American Legal system you can get away with anything. We already knew that. Congrats to Brady, but once you're labeled a cheater in the court of public opinion well there's no judge in the world that's going to overrule that.
 
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TemplaerDude

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thekad said:
Yup, the definition of Brady's behavior. Openly and unashamed. It's sad that he'll probably get harshly booed everywhere outside of Foxboro now. No one likes a cheater. Everyone hates a crybaby.

We'll have to see if he can handle that sort of scrutiny. Judging from his reaction to the consequences of his cheating, it's not looking good.
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Man, what giant crack pipe did you hit before posting that? Fucking pass me some, did you lace it with some MOTHA-FUCKIN' SAAAAAALT or am I just tasting it everywhere in this thread?
 
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Lambtron

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HocusPocus said:
You get a good lawyer in the American Legal system you can get away with anything. We already knew that. Congrats to Brady, but once you're labeled a cheater in the court of public opinion well there's no judge in the world that's going to overrule that.
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If the court of public opinion eats up the NFL's lies, they're fucking stupid.
 
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Boston

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thekad said:
Yup, the definition of Brady's behavior. Openly and unashamed. It's sad that he'll probably get harshly booed everywhere outside of Foxboro now. No one likes a cheater. Everyone hates a crybaby.

We'll have to see if he can handle that sort of scrutiny. Judging from his reaction to the consequences of his cheating, it's not looking good.
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May God(#12 Tom Brady)have mercy on your soul.


Let the buthurt flow through you child
 
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Big-E

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It is hilarious how angry so many people are about this when the virtually everything about this court case pointed to this outcome. Poor Jimmy though, I was actually excited to see him.
 
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thekad

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HocusPocus said:
You get a good lawyer in the American Legal system you can get away with anything. We already knew that. Congrats to Brady, but once you're labeled a cheater in the court of public opinion well there's no judge in the world that's going to overrule that.
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Yeah, very well put.
 
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KHarvey16

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HocusPocus said:
You get a good lawyer in the American Legal system you can get away with anything. We already knew that. Congrats to Brady, but once you're labeled a cheater in the court of public opinion well there's no judge in the world that's going to overrule that.
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Because it's based on idiocy and can't be reasoned with.
 
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p2535748

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HocusPocus said:
You get a good lawyer in the American Legal system you can get away with anything. We already knew that. Congrats to Brady, but once you're labeled a cheater in the court of public opinion well there's no judge in the world that's going to overrule that.
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This opinion is hilarious to me. The NFL has way more money and lawyers than the NFLPA, they chose the venue for the case to be heard in, and they still lost badly. So, explain to me how they lost if they had good lawyers. They should be able to get away with anything, right?

And before you think that this is about a burden of proof or anything, or that Brady skated simply because the NFL failed to prove its case, the deck in this case was very much stacked against Brady. His side had to prove that the process violated labor laws, his side had to get a federal judge to overturn arbitration, something which happens exceedingly rarely. The NFL's side was just asking the judge to stay out of it, which is usually what judges do.

The judge even says that he's assuming that the NFL's version of what happened is true (not necessarily because he believes that, but because it's what the law requires him to do). So basically, even if Brady did what they accuse him of, the punishment and appeal process were so badly run as to be against federal labor practices. Hell, he even ignores like half of the NFLPA's argument because he doesn't need it to overturn the case (seriously, he says basically "since these three things are enough to overturn, I'm not even going to discuss these other three things").

Brady didn't get off on a technicality, he got off because the NFL was found to be fundamentally unfair in how it handled the case. That's not some minor thing, and to pretend that this is a case of some guy beating a rap because his lawyer figured out a clever end around the justice system is ignorant and foolish. Is Brady's lawyer good? Of course, but it's fairly clear from the judgement that this wasn't about the quality of his lawyer, but about how badly the NFL has handled itself.

Whether you hate Brady or not, whether he cheated or not, doesn't really matter here. What matters is that a massively arrogant league office run by a guy who fashions himself a dictator with unlimited power got crushed by a federal judge. Frankly, most NFL fans should be happy with that, because maybe next time (and there will be a next time for someone else) the league will be a little more careful in how it metes out justice.
 
SenjutsuSage

SenjutsuSage

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Thebeardofknowledge said:
Brady stays winning
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGXzlRoNtHU

All he does is win.

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Tragicomedy

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People falling for thekad left and right. Quick to toss meaningless salt memes around while looking foolish.

Both Brady and Goodell look stupid here, Goodell obviously more so. This should have come down to Brady not pulling a Pinocchio and instead saying he liked his balls inflated to the lowest legal threshold. He couldn't control the weather, blah blah blah. Probably a lie, but without evidence nobody follows up on that.

Goodell looks like a hypocritical douche that thinks lying to him is more punishable than punching your wife in the fucking face. He tries to cover up or dismiss all the serious domestic violence and concussion issues, then plant his flag and take a stand on deflated footballs. Pathetic.

I'm convinced Brady lied, but it had no effect on the outcome.

I'm convinced Goodell is a two-faced asshat, and it has a huge effect on the league.
 
UberTag

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Tragicomedy said:
Both Brady and Goodell look stupid here, Goodell obviously more so. This should have come down to Brady not pulling a Pinocchio and instead saying he liked his balls inflated to the lowest legal threshold. He couldn't control the weather, blah blah blah. Probably a lie, but without evidence nobody follows up on that.

Goodell looks like a hypocritical douche that thinks lying to him is more punishable than punching your wife in the fucking face. He tries to cover up or dismiss all the serious domestic violence and concussion issues, then plant his flag and take a stand on deflated footballs. Pathetic.

I'm convinced Brady lied, but it had no effect on the outcome.

I'm convinced Goodell is a two-faced asshat, and it has a huge effect on the league.
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Yep, this all sounds about right.
 
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KHarvey16

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Tragicomedy said:
People falling for thekad left and right. Quick to toss meaningless salt memes around while looking foolish.

Both Brady and Goodell look stupid here, Goodell obviously more so. This should have come down to Brady not pulling a Pinocchio and instead saying he liked his balls inflated to the lowest legal threshold. He couldn't control the weather, blah blah blah. Probably a lie, but without evidence nobody follows up on that.

Goodell looks like a hypocritical douche that thinks lying to him is more punishable than punching your wife in the fucking face. He tries to cover up or dismiss all the serious domestic violence and concussion issues, then plant his flag and take a stand on deflated footballs. Pathetic.

I'm convinced Brady lied, but it had no effect on the outcome.

I'm convinced Goodell is a two-faced asshat, and it has a huge effect on the league.
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Brady said he liked the footballs at 12.5 after the game.
 
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Game-Biz

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OSHAN said:
You guys think Brady is going to get booed at road games? Do you think he can handle it?
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Brady is rich as fuck, wines and dines with the best and probably has incredible, wild sex with tons of drop dead gorgeous women constantly. Not to mention he's married to fucking Gisele Bundchen. So yeah I doubt he gives a single fuck if he gets booed or cares whatsoever about what people think of him. The guy has it made. And the judge made the right decision.
 
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p2535748 said:
This opinion is hilarious to me. The NFL has way more money and lawyers than the NFLPA, they chose the venue for the case to be heard in, and they still lost badly. So, explain to me how they lost if they had good lawyers. They should be able to get away with anything, right?

And before you think that this is about a burden of proof or anything, or that Brady skated simply because the NFL failed to prove its case, the deck in this case was very much stacked against Brady. His side had to prove that the process violated labor laws, his side had to get a federal judge to overturn arbitration, something which happens exceedingly rarely. The NFL's side was just asking the judge to stay out of it, which is usually what judges do.

The judge even says that he's assuming that the NFL's version of what happened is true (not necessarily because he believes that, but because it's what the law requires him to do). So basically, even if Brady did what they accuse him of, the punishment and appeal process were so badly run as to be against federal labor practices. Hell, he even ignores like half of the NFLPA's argument because he doesn't need it to overturn the case (seriously, he says basically "since these three things are enough to overturn, I'm not even going to discuss these other three things").

Brady didn't get off on a technicality, he got off because the NFL was found to be fundamentally unfair in how it handled the case. That's not some minor thing, and to pretend that this is a case of some guy beating a rap because his lawyer figured out a clever end around the justice system is ignorant and foolish. Is Brady's lawyer good? Of course, but it's fairly clear from the judgement that this wasn't about the quality of his lawyer, but about how badly the NFL has handled itself.

Whether you hate Brady or not, whether he cheated or not, doesn't really matter here. What matters is that a massively arrogant league office run by a guy who fashions himself a dictator with unlimited power got crushed by a federal judge. Frankly, most NFL fans should be happy with that, because maybe next time (and there will be a next time for someone else) the league will be a little more careful in how it metes out justice.
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Very well said. I must commend you.
 
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The Albatross

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thekad said:
Yup, the definition of Brady's behavior. Openly and unashamed. It's sad that he'll probably get harshly booed everywhere outside of Foxboro now. No one likes a cheater. Everyone hates a crybaby.

We'll have to see if he can handle that sort of scrutiny. Judging from his reaction to the consequences of his cheating, it's not looking good.
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Brady has been booed for 15 years and he's the most successful player in the NFL over that span. He may not be as succesful as last season, weeks 5 to 21, but it'll have nothing to do with fans reactions on the road.
 
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The Albatross

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p2535748 said:
This opinion is hilarious to me. The NFL has way more money and lawyers than the NFLPA, they chose the venue for the case to be heard in, and they still lost badly. So, explain to me how they lost if they had good lawyers. They should be able to get away with anything, right?

And before you think that this is about a burden of proof or anything, or that Brady skated simply because the NFL failed to prove its case, the deck in this case was very much stacked against Brady. His side had to prove that the process violated labor laws, his side had to get a federal judge to overturn arbitration, something which happens exceedingly rarely. The NFL's side was just asking the judge to stay out of it, which is usually what judges do.

The judge even says that he's assuming that the NFL's version of what happened is true (not necessarily because he believes that, but because it's what the law requires him to do). So basically, even if Brady did what they accuse him of, the punishment and appeal process were so badly run as to be against federal labor practices. Hell, he even ignores like half of the NFLPA's argument because he doesn't need it to overturn the case (seriously, he says basically "since these three things are enough to overturn, I'm not even going to discuss these other three things").

Brady didn't get off on a technicality, he got off because the NFL was found to be fundamentally unfair in how it handled the case. That's not some minor thing, and to pretend that this is a case of some guy beating a rap because his lawyer figured out a clever end around the justice system is ignorant and foolish. Is Brady's lawyer good? Of course, but it's fairly clear from the judgement that this wasn't about the quality of his lawyer, but about how badly the NFL has handled itself.

Whether you hate Brady or not, whether he cheated or not, doesn't really matter here. What matters is that a massively arrogant league office run by a guy who fashions himself a dictator with unlimited power got crushed by a federal judge. Frankly, most NFL fans should be happy with that, because maybe next time (and there will be a next time for someone else) the league will be a little more careful in how it metes out justice.
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Preach
 
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Troy

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p2535748 said:
This opinion is hilarious to me. The NFL has way more money and lawyers than the NFLPA, they chose the venue for the case to be heard in, and they still lost badly. So, explain to me how they lost if they had good lawyers. They should be able to get away with anything, right?

And before you think that this is about a burden of proof or anything, or that Brady skated simply because the NFL failed to prove its case, the deck in this case was very much stacked against Brady. His side had to prove that the process violated labor laws, his side had to get a federal judge to overturn arbitration, something which happens exceedingly rarely. The NFL's side was just asking the judge to stay out of it, which is usually what judges do.

The judge even says that he's assuming that the NFL's version of what happened is true (not necessarily because he believes that, but because it's what the law requires him to do). So basically, even if Brady did what they accuse him of, the punishment and appeal process were so badly run as to be against federal labor practices. Hell, he even ignores like half of the NFLPA's argument because he doesn't need it to overturn the case (seriously, he says basically "since these three things are enough to overturn, I'm not even going to discuss these other three things").

Brady didn't get off on a technicality, he got off because the NFL was found to be fundamentally unfair in how it handled the case. That's not some minor thing, and to pretend that this is a case of some guy beating a rap because his lawyer figured out a clever end around the justice system is ignorant and foolish. Is Brady's lawyer good? Of course, but it's fairly clear from the judgement that this wasn't about the quality of his lawyer, but about how badly the NFL has handled itself.

Whether you hate Brady or not, whether he cheated or not, doesn't really matter here. What matters is that a massively arrogant league office run by a guy who fashions himself a dictator with unlimited power got crushed by a federal judge. Frankly, most NFL fans should be happy with that, because maybe next time (and there will be a next time for someone else) the league will be a little more careful in how it metes out justice.
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The NFL recently lost to a guy who was caught on tape knocking out his fiancee. If you can't win that case, maybe it's time to rethink who your leaders are.
 
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boiled goose

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knicks said:
This is why the parts of the court system are stupid. Evidence is required for things that are common sense.
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Absolutely amazing.
A real quote not sarcasm.

No better way to show the irrational hatred towards the pats and brady.

Pats and brady reconfirmed goat.
 
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