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[ToadMan]

Me? Between me and the kids it would get loads of use, whether that's because the TV is in use, or playing PS5 in bed, or in the garden etc. A streaming device like this could be cheap also (compared to Steam deck or even Switch)

Yeah this seems like an obvious use case - people with families. Especially if you don’t want to hand over a device which has unlimited access to the internet like a tablet or phone - or bother configuring such devices for the protection of content from youngsters.

If it’s cheap enough this use case might shift a few units but it still seems too little to justify it.

 

[simpatico]

So which Xperia phone is this based on?

 

[coffinbirth]

From my experience, it's not the 3-4 hours that's necessarily the problem. It's the playing for an hour, turning it off and coming back several days later and it's either dead or the battery is so low you have to charge it just to be able to play. If you have a device that can do 10 hours you're not going to have as big of an issue.

If the battery is anything like the Vita's, this will not be a concern. I've had one bedside for MONTHS without a charge, in standby mode, and the battery is still at 50%. If it's a cheapo DualSense battery, you will have a valid annoyance on/in your hands.

 

[thatsafakewebsitebro]

Honestly that's dog shit

But at the same time who games that long in a single sitting?

Careful. I got attacked for saying that the battery life of the dualsense edge was just fine at 4 hours.

 

[THE DUCK]

Careful. I got attacked for saying that the battery life of the dualsense edge was just fine at 4 hours.

That's a little different I would say, your more likely to sit in front of a TV for many hours vs grabbing a portable for an hour or 2 when the TV is being used. Or just before bed.

 

[Raonak]

I would've thought it would be more because it isn't natively running games.

 

[ShadyAcshuns]

This thing is already turning out to be a huge disaster..

 

[Imtjnotu]

Careful. I got attacked for saying that the battery life of the dualsense edge was just fine at 4 hours.

It absolutely is not good at 4 hours

 

[Topher]

 

[adamsapple]

Over/under, do you guys think this will do better than Vita ?

 

[CoreyFlawless]

dead on arrival man. Don’t get me wrong. There be 2-5mil of PlayStation hardcore that will buy this.

 

[Hero_Select]

All this shitty thing does is stream games and they cant even get a decent battery life on it?

 

[Crispy Gamer]

No OLED screen is a huge L so I'm guessing these are the screens Sharp are providing and it's not for a new Switch

 

[Rea]

What's the point of this device?

 

[lh032]

remote play and only last 3-4 hours? come on.....

 

[TLZ]

Well, there's the dualsense, the 8" screen, and the constant wifi streaming.

It's understandable.

How long does a phone/tablet last when gaming nonstop for hours? Also streaming?

 

[01011001]

I have already tried the handheld and it runs Tears of the Kingdom well.

Proof:

most likely the literal design process of that thing

 

[01011001]

Well, there's the dualsense, the 8" screen, and the constant wifi streaming.

It's understandable.

How long does a phone/tablet last when gaming nonstop for hours? Also streaming?

my tablet can stream video for like 12h a charge

 

[TLZ]

my tablet can stream video for like 12h a charge

Gaming should be different no? Plus the controllers sucking a lot of juice out of it. And the device constantly talking to/decoding PS5 games to stream. And we don't know how lagfree it'd be. Maybe that plays a part. And how bright/dim the screen is. A lot of things at play here.

And of course the battery. We don't know how big this one is.

 

[Ozzie666]

They should bundle this with Persona 6 when it comes out.

I used remote play a lot with my Vita too grind Personas. Very handy indeed, for anyone that has multiple consoles and kids. It's not the handheld I wanted, it's not even a handheld, it's an extension of the PS5. I'm curious to try it. But an OLED would make all the difference.

The question is, will this device sell more than PSV2? - I think the answer might surprise you.

 

[German Hops]

We have super efficient EV vehicles and we still have shit battery lives on gaming devices? Lol what a time to be alive!

 

[balls of snow]

Even Steamdeck can push 5 while remote play. Lol sony that 1080p non oled screen is so worth it!

 

[AREYOUOKAY?]

It really is the worst aspects of the Sega Nomad and the Wii U combined.



I sold my Nomad due to the 3 hour at most battery life, but that took 6 AA's.

I have already tried the handheld and it runs Tears of the Kingdom well.

Proof:

I guess I have an excuse to post this again.

 

[FalsettoVibe]

Looking at how thin it is, it can't have that big a battery. Plus it has to power the DS and all it's functionality. 3-4 is enough for me. I never game that long anyway. Just price it right and allow direct connectivity.

 

[Boy bawang]

If this thing natively ran PS1 and PS2 games, it would have a small chance at pulling decent numbers.
But as it is, it's dead on arrival.

 

[LakeOf9]

That sounds pretty bad doesnt it? Steam Deck and Switch both last longer, and they are actual self contained systems

 

[Robb]

How can it be so poor? It’s not running anything natively, right - just streaming?

Feel like it should be double the Switch/Steam deck at least, not worse.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

The very fact they didn’t mention the price means it will be $299 at least.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

That sounds pretty bad doesnt it? Steam Deck and Switch both last longer, and they are actual self contained systems

Depends, for top games Steam Deck goes out of juice in 2 hours tops.

 

[mckmas8808]

This device just continues to make less and less sense.

If it integrates with PS+ Premium and allows for Cloud gaming, however, then it's awesome as it can be a foundation for the future in case Cloud gaming takes off. It'd also give them an opening in the Japanese handheld market with a dedicated cloud gaming device.

In it current remote-play-only form, this is just stupid.

Gotta agree with you pal. I was trying to give Sony the benefit of the doubt and figure out what I'm missing. But it's a useless product without Sony's version of Xcloud.

 

[farmerboy]

They're gonna sell like 3 of these. Really don't know who asked for this.

 

[StealthGoblin]

Not too bad considering it’ll have the full feature set of the Dualsense. Honestly struggle to play games without those features now.

 

[DForce]

I don't see a problem with it if its like $129.99.

If it's close to or over $200, then it better have streaming support on Cloud.

 

[Hoppa]

I know they’re not the same but how long do these Steamdecks/ROG etc devices last? I’ve got zero interest in this but I can’t imagine playing these without it constantly needing to be plugged in ?

 

[Jibran#one]

Honestly that's dog shit

But at the same time who games that long in a single sitting?

Watch me play diablo 4 for 12 hour straight

 

[CrustyBritches]

I know they’re not the same but how long do these Steamdecks/ROG etc devices last? I’ve got zero interest in this but I can’t imagine playing these without it constantly needing to be plugged in ?

Remote play from PS5 to Deck using Chiaki(1080p/60fps, h.265, 75% brightness) gets about 4-5hrs. of battery life.

Local play it just depends on the game and the settings you use. I had to get new tires and an alignment on my car last week and I brought my deck and played Spider-Man at 30fps, low settings, FSR2 Quality, 10W TDP, at ~90% brightness(near big windows) for 1h50m and still had an estimated 15min battery life left.

 

[ChoosableOne]

Yeah this seems like an obvious use case - people with families. Especially if you don’t want to hand over a device which has unlimited access to the internet like a tablet or phone - or bother configuring such devices for the protection of content from youngsters.

If it’s cheap enough this use case might shift a few units but it still seems too little to justify it.

It would be better if it allows you to play splitscreen/local co-op games with your friend/kid.

 

[Zuzu]

I don't think it's that bad of a device if it's priced well. You get a larger screen than a phone with full dualsense functionality and it's more convenient than using an accessory with your phone (and perhaps more ergonomic?). It's more pick up and play than having to get your phone and attach it to a backbone like device. I could imagine keeping it in my bedroom most of the time and because it's a fully integrated device it'd be ready all the time without me having to get my phone and attach it to a backbone.

It needs to be $200USD or under but I wouldn't be surprised if it's $250 or even $300. At higher than $200 I don't think it's gonna do well. Might not even do well at $200.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

I don't think it's that bad of a device if it's priced well. You get a larger screen than a phone with full dualsense functionality and it's more convenient than using an accessory with your phone. It's more pick up and play than having to get your phone and attach it to a backbone like device. I could imagine keeping it in my bedroom most of the time and because it's a fully integrated device it'd be ready all the time without me having to get my phone and attach it to a backbone.

It needs to be $200USD or under but I wouldn't be surprised if it's $250 or even $300. At higher than $200 I don't think it's gonna do well. Might not even do well at $200.

Yeah, that’s a good use. I think people forget vast majority of Switch owners use it exclusively at home in portable mode. Sony probably saw that and thought: “Huh, so people can play PS5 this way as well”.

Sweet spot would be 200-249€, but it will probably be 299€.

 

[ArtHands]

So 1/2 to 1/3 the battery life of Nintendo Switch and only remote play huh.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

 

[mrmustard]

Not too bad, because you are at home anyways with this thing and can plug it in whenever you want.

 

[Snake29]

It wont get a pricetag over 200. It will be around 129/150.

 

[Zathalus]

God, is Sony contractually obligated to hate battery capacity?

 

[ToTTenTranz]

4 hours in one sitting of playing games on a 8" screen isn't enough?

Exactly how long do gamers nowadays need of battery life to play games on a single sitting without having to eat or drink or pee or shit?

Do people know this is a device that has to be used at a home with a PS5, and that homes usually have power outlets in all divisions?

 

[Banjo64]

4 hours in one sitting of playing games on a 8" screen isn't enough?

Exactly how long do gamers nowadays need of battery life to play games on a single sitting without having to eat or drink or pee or shit?

Well some people play for longer than 4 hours and even if they don’t, it’s nice not to have to put it on charge at the end of each session.

Do people know this is a device that has to be used at a home with a PS5

No it doesn’t. You can use remote play anywhere that has wi-fi access, including tethering it to your phone.

and that homes usually have power outlets in all divisions?

Removes the main selling point of portability.

 

[Tams]

This device just continues to make less and less sense.

If it integrates with PS+ Premium and allows for Cloud gaming, however, then it's awesome as it can be a foundation for the future in case Cloud gaming takes off. It'd also give them an opening in the Japanese handheld market with a dedicated cloud gaming device.

In it current remote-play-only form, this is just stupid.

Last time I tried streaming a game in Japan on a mobile network (using 4G), it was shit. Rayman Legends ran, but they was nasty artefacting.

And that was on au as an au customer, not shunted onto the end of the queue as MVNOb users are.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

it’s nice not to have to put it on charge at the end of each session.

Doesn’t stop Apple Watch from selling.

 

[Mr.Phoenix]

1. Why does anyone believe this?
2. Why do people keep thinking that this device will only work at home over your local network, when remote play right now can work from anywhere as long as you have an internet connection?
3. I am noticing this weird thing where it seems people just want this to fail. I don't get it... how does a completely optional accessory affect them? How is this any different than buying a dual sense edge because you want back buttons?

 

[FalsettoVibe]

nvm