archangelmorph
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They should add it as a free service for PS+ members to encourage uptake of the service...
Will pay off MORE than dividends in the long run...
Will pay off MORE than dividends in the long run...
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Transfer your umd purchases to your Vita (with a fee).
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http://andriasang.com/comyxt/
??? So I am paying for what? The right to own a digital version of a game I already own?
??? So I am paying for what? The right to own a digital version of a game I already own?
Yes! Well, you can just keep the game you already own without paying anything, you know?Cartman86 said:http://andriasang.com/comyxt/
??? So I am paying for what? The right to own a digital version of a game I already own?
test_account
XP-39C²
That is fair enoughNuclear Muffin said:
I agree that it is a bit silly to charge noticeably more for the digital copy if the physical copy cost less.Hyuga said:
Well sadly I can't since my PSP just broke. Your point remains as i'm a weird outlier, but still this process seems so strange. It's just got a great deal considering I can't play my backwards compatible games since I bought physical copies. I would've bought some Square games if they were even on the digital store.
Nuclear Muffin said:
The problem is that I don't think publishers would've agreed had they not been allowed to set the price (even if within a given price range)
Given that they have agreed to it, I think it is much more likely to seem them (publishers) put more of their back catalog on PSN
Cartman86 said:http://andriasang.com/comyxt/
??? So I am paying for what? The right to own a digital version of a game I already own?
They cannot determine if the same UMD has been registered, none of these UMDs carry unique identifiers.
Or it's not an actual protection method on Sony's part just merely telling you that passing around the disc to friends to get the discounted download for them as well is against their terms of service and they don't want you doing it, don't do it. Just because Sony's says something doesn't mean they actually have to be able to enforce it.Cartman86 said:
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Better than nothing, but considering how much of my PSP library was bought at $15, $10, or less to begin with I don't know how much I'll bother.
It seems you are.........confused..........you don't have to buy anything. Sony don't have to do anything. Imo it's not meant to be "purchase" ALL of my 100 PSP games on the Vita again. But they put this system in place for people who want to play their *favourite* PSP games on the Vita (if your title is available of course). 1000 yen fee and up is a bit steep imo, a fee sounds more like 500 yen or something, but it's better than nothing, like they did nothing for the PSPGo. This is probably the best solution they could come up with, the system that is, not the price, but that's probably what the publishers are allowed to set themselves and not Sony, otherwise they would be against this.confused said:
test_account
XP-39C²
"Transfering" and "fee" are a bit misleading. There arent any tranfering or fees involved, but you just register your UMD copy and you get a discount on the the digital copy.Limanima said:
Do you mean multiplatform games?Toki767 said:
Then you have to buy multiply copies if you want the game on different systems.gogogow said:
If I want to play my PSP games on PSVita I will have to rebuy them. This is Sony getting paid twice for a single game. It's nickel and diming a customer for something they already own.
It's also pissing over everybody who didn't use PSN on their PSP's as games bought on PSN do carry over, giving them prefferential treatment over customers who buy at B+M
test_account
XP-39C²
Just out of curiousity, which solution would you think is better? And also a realistic solution (giving away free digital copies in this case is not realsitic in my opinion since then people could just rent or share the same UMD a lot of times).confused said:
Limanima said:
Edit: This post fits right here too:
confused said:
Yes, you are. You paid for the UMD to play on the PSP not Vita. Sony never advertised on the UMD, the box, the manual, websites or in any press release that a UMD will work on a possible successor of the PSP that will/might be released in the future.
I would also like to have my entire UMD collection to work on the Vita, but we need to be realistic. The Vita doesn't have a UMD drive.
test_account
XP-39C²
Unfortunately that wouldnt be possible because as gogogow mentioned, UMD (and other physical games as well as far as i know) dont have an unique identifier. All copies are viewed as the exact same copy.confused said:
sixteen-bit
Member
At least there is the option I suppose.
Callibretto
Member
gogogow said:
a bit off topic, but since Vita games seems to have some writeable memory on the cart, it'd be nice if can buy a Vita games on retail, then register that card to specific vita so I get the downloadable version too. I like having multiple games on 1 card and always have it on my Vita although some special edition retail games comes with nice bonus etc.
Kuro Madoushi
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:lol where to rent from?Mik2121 said:
Blockbuster is gone. Another rental chain in Toronto, Jumbo video is gone. I *think* we may have one left...somewhere...
Callibretto
Member
gogogow said:
UMD current problem is because it didn't have unique ID to differentiate between 2 UMD of the same games. why can't Vita card is already designed like that? next time you use that Vita cartridge game on another Vita, it will ask for a one time authentification from online. then that Vita is registered for that particular account. similar to game sharing.
Dedication Through Light
Member
Darn no Konami nor Yugioh 5D's title for this? I hope they consider it. I need my tgc fix on vita.
As usual, plenty of "everything should be free" comments.
Sony has come with an elegant yet abuse-free solution. Can any of the critics suggest a better one?
In my opinion, the registration will be stored in the psp, so in a psp you can only "transfer" the same umd once.
On the other hand sony recently released the psp E1004: a cheaper model (with no wifi, mono speaker) to play your old umd if your psp broke, have a big umd collection and dont need wifi.
Sony has come with an elegant yet abuse-free solution. Can any of the critics suggest a better one?
In my opinion, the registration will be stored in the psp, so in a psp you can only "transfer" the same umd once.
On the other hand sony recently released the psp E1004: a cheaper model (with no wifi, mono speaker) to play your old umd if your psp broke, have a big umd collection and dont need wifi.
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Cartman86 said:http://andriasang.com/comyxt/
??? So I am paying for what? The right to own a digital version of a game I already own?
If you buy the UMD version you are only buying the right to play it as a UMD. Saying that you're buying something you already own is like saying that buying the PS3 version of a game should automatically give you free access to the 360 & PC version as well. It's like saying that publishers should send you a UMD when you buy a game off the PSN.
Unfortunately (or fortunately, depending on how you see it), it is not the way software works.
What a stupid question. DS/DSi games play on 3DS at no charge.Noshino said:
Vita is the first system since GameCube to not have backwards compatibility available to early adopters. It's something we've come to expect, so it's something people are going to be upset about.
There was a thread recently about whether or not you would pay for backwards compatibility. The general consensus was "No thanks, I wouldn't; it should be a standard."
That would cause a LOT of inconvenience if you want to borrow your game or you want to borrow a game from your friend and there's no Wifi signal. And people would abuse the shit out of that system. One time authentification register on PSVita #2 > download Digital Copy > One time authentification register on PSVita #3 > download Digital Copy > One time authentification register on PSVita #4 > download Digital Copy > etc. etc.Callibretto said:
I'm not sure how feasible it is to have a unique ID in every Vita card itself, written on NAND/Flash, would cost a fortune.
PuppetMaster
Member
Hmmm I might do this for at least couple of my games.
Nuclear Muffin
Banned
Noshino said:
You're probably right. Hopefully it'll lead to more PSN support since a lot of people will expect to be able to play their retail PSP games on their future Vita (I'M LOOKING AT YOU SQUARE ENIX AND Q ENTERTAINMENT!)
PdotMichael
Banned
Cartman86 said:http://andriasang.com/comyxt/
??? So I am paying for what? The right to own a digital version of a game I already own?
because you never paid for a digital version of the game or the right to play it on a possible PSP succesor.
It's been said a few times already. The problem is going from UMD to flash-based cartridges. With DS->3DS Nintendo is basically using the same format. I would be real mad and pushing over magazine racks everywhere if Vita was using UMD and my PSP UMDs wouldn't be BC. See N64->Gamecube.Michan said:
Callibretto
Member
gogogow said:
if it work like game sharing, you'll be limited to 2 device authentication.
if unique ID for every card is not feasible than make it so you"copy" the content of game to Vita while online, at the same time, some data will be written on that card making it unplayable in other Vita. if you want to lend it to other people, you have to connect online with your account again, and "move" the game from your Vita to the cartridge again.
edit: probably easier if I said you're basically moving your license around between card and vita.
PixyJunket
Member
So, you have to pay for it and it's only for the select few game they choose?
What a disaster.
What a disaster.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
The VITA has BC to all PSP games on PSN.Michan said:
I would think it must be obvious to any GAF poster that they're switching formats here; it needs no explanation. Perhaps you didn't read the post I quoted, but he suggested UMDs should also play on 3DS for a charge. That is a ridiculous claim and beside the point, since Nintendo supports the entire DS library. In fact, speaking of DS, that system initially supported Game Boy software despite it also being a completely different format. It is the platform holder's responsibility/decision to support their legacy hardware and software.gogogow said:
This is a pretty lousy effort on Sony's part to be "backwards compatible." The company may as well just pass the savings on, rather than dedicate resources to this time-wasting "transfer." Something is clearly broken when you can easily pick up 90+% of the PSP for less than this fee.
By the way, you need not remind us of how the N64->GameCube transition faired. Actually, thinking about it, every non-debut system without backwards compatibility at launch has either failed or lost the manufacturer considerable marketshare. See PSP Go, N64, GameCube, Game Boy micro, pretty much all SEGA hardware... The only time I can think of that a system hasn't failed is during the Super generation, and that was pretty much a neck-and-neck two horse race.
I'm not suggesting we'll say Vita has failed in retrospect. It's just an observation you brought to my attention.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Hmmmm, if the support is actually better, it may be worth doing that for the UMD stuff. It's a nice middle groung.
Callibretto
Member
I've been tempted to re-buy Syphon Filter psp 1 a few times on PSN Store, but I'll see how it goes with this program. assuming it's available in US.
BattleMonkey
Member
Some people have overly high expectations. Of course they aren't going to just let anyone get free games. Almost every system to tranfer for free people keep thinking up with are all invitations to get free games and abuse the system. Of course they have to charge a fee. Tons of people downloading all these PSP games is also not free either, that's alot of bandwith.
The only other option really besides this would have been a seperate UMD drive accessory, but that kind of would kill portablity and just be a big fee your paying up front to play some old games.
The only other option really besides this would have been a seperate UMD drive accessory, but that kind of would kill portablity and just be a big fee your paying up front to play some old games.
