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Trump on track to win re-election. (WaPo Opinion)
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Hero_of_the_Day
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His followers will not turn on him. Surely everyone gets that at this point? Dems need to get the fuck out and vote, and they need a candidate that undecideds don't hate. That, or of course Trump has this on lock.
The same thing presumably. Were three years away. Wait until after mid terms before dooming and glooming.
entremet
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You cant do both? I mean you have to. Exploratory Committees dont form overnight, neither is fundraising done in mad dash. Same with strategy.
RPGCrazied
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Thankfully you can't with 35% - 38% of the vote. That is basically what he has right now.
Bill R Boggess
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That's assuming Trump will even be in office three years from now.
Given his declining health, the stress of the job which is clearly taking its toll, the Russian investigation which might very well obliterate his administration when completed, and his own ineptitude, I could envision any number of scenarios where Trump ends up leaving office either of his own volition or because he's tossed out on his fat ass.
I could also imagine Trump opting not to run for re-election because by all accounts, he hates the job.
That said, I never thought this piece of shit could get elected the first time so I won't foolishly assume it couldn't happen again.
Given his declining health, the stress of the job which is clearly taking its toll, the Russian investigation which might very well obliterate his administration when completed, and his own ineptitude, I could envision any number of scenarios where Trump ends up leaving office either of his own volition or because he's tossed out on his fat ass.
I could also imagine Trump opting not to run for re-election because by all accounts, he hates the job.
That said, I never thought this piece of shit could get elected the first time so I won't foolishly assume it couldn't happen again.
RedNalgene
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Anecdotally, my family members who voted for Trump have all said they think he's doing a great job and are happy they voted for him. Who knows if that will change in the next three years, but that's where we are almost one year later. Be careful of the liberal bubble.
Exploratory
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We might not even be here in 3 years.
BassForever
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Of course people should act with the assumption Trump is gonna win the reelection in 2020 it's just common sense. Stay motivated, stay active, continue to try and educate the undecided around you the importance of voting especially if you live in a swing state. The ripples you make today can be a tidal wave in 3 years time.
You say that now, but remember all of the Republicans that said they would not vote for Trump before the election because he was a despicable human being? All fell in line and voted (R) anyway. Party before country.
entremet
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He clearly loves campaigning though! I predict another college try if hes not found of criminal mischief.
Escape Goat
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Biden/Harris 2020
JordanN
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Is it strange if I've gotten use to Trump? It's been said before, if Trump was removed we would have to deal with a President Pence or Ryan and both are more competent and thus can do more evil Republican stuff.
If democrats can just continue to obstruct Trump at every turn, then Trump just becomes a president who is full of hot air. Even if he wins re-election, him being an incompetent president who can't get anything done might be something we have to deal with until America finally gets a wake up call like they did after 8 years of Bush finally made Americans realize "it's time for something far better".
If democrats can just continue to obstruct Trump at every turn, then Trump just becomes a president who is full of hot air. Even if he wins re-election, him being an incompetent president who can't get anything done might be something we have to deal with until America finally gets a wake up call like they did after 8 years of Bush finally made Americans realize "it's time for something far better".
RPGCrazied
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Yeah, but I'm not going to be doom and gloom over this guy. I think he will not be reelected. He got lucky with all the fake news propaganda the Russian's created for him. Next election surely we(I won't be) be that stupid to fall for that again.
Keyword - "On track"It's too far out to say he's going to win, that is what they thought about Hillary.
More importantly his current status affects 2018, which is being played out RIGHT FUCKING NOW.
Hero_of_the_Day
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Doubt it. Nothing has changed over the last however many months. If the last election were to take place today, the outcome would be exactly the same, including the fact that we would all be sitting here dumbfounded at the results.
Joe will be 76.
You can but I still think it's way premature. And btw, I think it should be far easier for Democrats this time around to win 2020. Trump won't be this new candidate on the national stage, he will have a lot of baggage from election promises he has kept and not kept. Lots of minorities won't fall for his BS the second time around etc. On the other side, Hillary won't be up for election so all that baggage from the smear campaign the GOP did from the last 2 decades won't be there. It should be MUCH easier to win. I'm not saying for complacency but John Doe Democrat should be able to get the job done.
entremet
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Man really? Hes an energetic 74 then. Thought he was mid 60s.
A sitting president less than a year into his first term is on track to win re-election? No fucking shit. If this is the caliber of insight being offered up by Democratic strategists (one of whose main supporting points is "there will be a major third-party candidate on the ballot" ffs) then *that* has me more worried than Trump himself.
Master Yoshi
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Biden will save us.
skullmuffins
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hopefully our next candidate won't have their campaign dominated by speculation that they are about to be arrested and/or die
if trump wins again in a repeat of 2016 - where he pulls through by winning very small margins in a handful of states while losing the popular vote by millions - are we (at least, people who aren't trumpkins) gonna finally come to a consensus that the electoral college is bogus? 3/4 of the past republican victories...
if trump wins again in a repeat of 2016 - where he pulls through by winning very small margins in a handful of states while losing the popular vote by millions - are we (at least, people who aren't trumpkins) gonna finally come to a consensus that the electoral college is bogus? 3/4 of the past republican victories...
entremet
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Republicans are more faithful in their voting habits than Democrats. Democrats sit out midterms all the time.
RPGCrazied
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Can you imagine Bernie running again? He would be close to 80. I don't have a problem with Biden.
I just hope with Trump winning last time it won't open the flood gates for more celebrities to run. But of course that is exactly is going to happen.
Escape Goat
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And I will be 38.
DontBeThatGuy
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He'll win Florida again, I'll say that much.
Mark Andrew
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He won by a margin of like 80,000 votes and his republican approval has fallen precipitously.
Not saying democrats should rest on their laurels, but hes not some unstoppable force destined for a second term.
Not saying democrats should rest on their laurels, but hes not some unstoppable force destined for a second term.
hydragonwarrior
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Dems still haven't decided on a single voice to represent them... ughhhhh
Its likely thousands of Puerto Ricans will flee to Florida, and they sure as shit won't vote for Trump.
Nerdkiller
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That'll probably depend on how many displaced Puerto Ricans will remain in Florida as a result of Maria (because the US sure as hell isn't helping in that situation), and subsequently choose to register their vote in that state.
DontBeThatGuy
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It would need to be a substantial number.
Depends on if he gets the 500k Confederates in the Panhandle to turn out again.
And they won't - until the primaries. This is how American politics works for the opposition.
Who was the single voice against Obama in 2009? Against Clinton in 1993?
The party not in the white House doesn't have the luxury of a single voice, and can't have due to the basic fundamentals of how the american governance systems work. That's why you have such long, drawn out primaries compared to other countries.
I actually agree. I think he can win re-election. Dems are doing exactly what they did in 2016 saying Trump cant possibly win. Even with 38% approval rating, I assure, he can win a second term. His base is intact. The GOO is outraising Dems. Dems, by and large, are running against Trump not for an issue. Plus, no Dem candidate has demonstrated they can counter Trumps branding and marketing skills.
There are 3.4 million people in Puerto Rico. If 3% of the population resettles in Florida, if will become a leaning blue state.
DontBeThatGuy
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I'm just gonna assume they're all part of his hardcore base and will absolutely show up again. Puerto Rico could swing it back but i'm not holding my breath here.
Florida just ain't right.
People in this very thread are sleeping on midterms.
I'll agree with this. Trump could be president again, this is a battle that needs to be fought.
But, three more years of Trump is going to be too much for the American public alone. Every damn week he starts some controversy. Three more years of that, 160 more controversies. The people that stayed out of the last election because "blah blah it's all the same my vote doesn't matter" now know that that's simply not true because if you don't do your part you get a mad man as president.
If the Democrats can put out a good candidate that does not have the unfavorable numbers that Clinton had, then Trump should lose. He's going out of his way to basically piss of anybody that isn't wealthy.
But yes of course taking anything for granted is foolish as Trump proved last election. I'll be voting midterms and for president and I'll encourage others to as well.
It feels like it's been 4 already.
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