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Trump to deliver a statement on healthcare at 3:15 p.m. ET.

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Buckle

Member
The GOP would put sunglasses on McCain's corpse and weekend at Bernie's him if it meant getting them another vote.
 
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GK86

Homeland Security Fail
Ishan said:
can someone provide a recap?
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"GOP has said they would repeal and replace Obamacare for the past 7 years."
"The Dems only obstruct. They don't even know what is in the bill!"
"Dems gave us this nightmare, they should vote to repeal and replace."
"American people were lied to. Premiums have gone up."
 
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Buckle

Member
RPGCrazied said:
Has Obama chimed in at all about healthcare?

Dude has been MIA since Trump won. lol
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He's not going to give Trump what he wants.

He's blaming everything on him like Barrack is still calling the shots despite the fact that republicans control everything now and are still incompetent boobs. He would love to get into a dumb public argument with Obama and use him as a boogey man.

Better to just let Trump hang himself as he continues to sound like an incoherent old man yelling at clouds.
 
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Blader

Member
RPGCrazied said:
Has Obama chimed in at all about healthcare?

Dude has been MIA since Trump won. lol
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Yes, last month:

Our politics are divided. They have been for a long time. And while I know that division makes it difficult to listen to Americans with whom we disagree, that’s what we need to do today.

I recognize that repealing and replacing the Affordable Care Act has become a core tenet of the Republican Party. Still, I hope that our Senators, many of whom I know well, step back and measure what’s really at stake, and consider that the rationale for action, on health care or any other issue, must be something more than simply undoing something that Democrats did.

We didn’t fight for the Affordable Care Act for more than a year in the public square for any personal or political gain – we fought for it because we knew it would save lives, prevent financial misery, and ultimately set this country we love on a better, healthier course.

Nor did we fight for it alone. Thousands upon thousands of Americans, including Republicans, threw themselves into that collective effort, not for political reasons, but for intensely personal ones – a sick child, a parent lost to cancer, the memory of medical bills that threatened to derail their dreams.

And you made a difference. For the first time, more than ninety percent of Americans know the security of health insurance. Health care costs, while still rising, have been rising at the slowest pace in fifty years. Women can’t be charged more for their insurance, young adults can stay on their parents’ plan until they turn 26, contraceptive care and preventive care are now free. Paying more, or being denied insurance altogether due to a preexisting condition – we made that a thing of the past.

We did these things together. So many of you made that change possible.

At the same time, I was careful to say again and again that while the Affordable Care Act represented a significant step forward for America, it was not perfect, nor could it be the end of our efforts – and that if Republicans could put together a plan that is demonstrably better than the improvements we made to our health care system, that covers as many people at less cost, I would gladly and publicly support it.

That remains true. So I still hope that there are enough Republicans in Congress who remember that public service is not about sport or notching a political win, that there’s a reason we all chose to serve in the first place, and that hopefully, it’s to make people’s lives better, not worse.

But right now, after eight years, the legislation rushed through the House and the Senate without public hearings or debate would do the opposite. It would raise costs, reduce coverage, roll back protections, and ruin Medicaid as we know it. That’s not my opinion, but rather the conclusion of all objective analyses, from the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, which found that 23 million Americans would lose insurance, to America’s doctors, nurses, and hospitals on the front lines of our health care system.

The Senate bill, unveiled today, is not a health care bill. It’s a massive transfer of wealth from middle-class and poor families to the richest people in America. It hands enormous tax cuts to the rich and to the drug and insurance industries, paid for by cutting health care for everybody else. Those with private insurance will experience higher premiums and higher deductibles, with lower tax credits to help working families cover the costs, even as their plans might no longer cover pregnancy, mental health care, or expensive prescriptions. Discrimination based on pre-existing conditions could become the norm again. Millions of families will lose coverage entirely.

Simply put, if there’s a chance you might get sick, get old, or start a family – this bill will do you harm. And small tweaks over the course of the next couple weeks, under the guise of making these bills easier to stomach, cannot change the fundamental meanness at the core of this legislation.

I hope our Senators ask themselves – what will happen to the Americans grappling with opioid addiction who suddenly lose their coverage? What will happen to pregnant mothers, children with disabilities, poor adults and seniors who need long-term care once they can no longer count on Medicaid? What will happen if you have a medical emergency when insurance companies are once again allowed to exclude the benefits you need, send you unlimited bills, or set unaffordable deductibles? What impossible choices will working parents be forced to make if their child’s cancer treatment costs them more than their life savings?

To put the American people through that pain – while giving billionaires and corporations a massive tax cut in return – that’s tough to fathom. But it’s what’s at stake right now. So it remains my fervent hope that we step back and try to deliver on what the American people need.

That might take some time and compromise between Democrats and Republicans. But I believe that’s what people want to see. I believe it would demonstrate the kind of leadership that appeals to Americans across party lines. And I believe that it’s possible – if you are willing to make a difference again. If you’re willing to call your members of Congress. If you are willing to visit their offices. If you are willing to speak out, let them and the country know, in very real terms, what this means for you and your family.

After all, this debate has always been about something bigger than politics. It’s about the character of our country – who we are, and who we aspire to be. And that’s always worth fighting for.
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https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/posts/10154996557026749
 
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AndyD

aka andydumi
Exile20 said:
Honestly anything he says the Repubs will home in on and twist it to shit. Then they have a new target for their base.
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Yep. He couldn't even go on vacation without media stories about his vacations being too extravagant. After leaving office....
 
chekhonte

chekhonte

Member
Exile20 said:
Honestly anything he says the Repubs will home in on and twist it to shit. Then they have a new target for their base.
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Obama should befriend Trump and even support him privately and say nothing publicly. Trump can't help but say nice things about people who say nice things about him. It's his only endearing quality and one that is very exploitable.
 
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AndyD

aka andydumi
chekhonte said:
Obama should befriend Trump and even support him privately and say nothing publicly. Trump can't help but say nice things about people who say nice things about him. It's his only endearing quality and one that is very exploitable.
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Conan's videos come to life!
 
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cameron

Member
Sec Price on Trump involvement w/ healthcare bill: "This is the greatest amount of involvement by any president that I have ever witnessed"

— Abby D. Phillip (@abbydphillip) July 24, 2017​




On AF-1, Secy Price says he expects "positive outcome" tomorrow in Senate ObamaCare vote. Sanders/Scaramucci listen in. (Pool photo @W7VOA)
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— Mark Knoller‏ (@markknoller) July 24, 2017​
 
RPGCrazied

RPGCrazied

Member
No thread, but Trump is talking with boy scouts.

Like what kind of parent would let their kids going to this propaganda rally?
 
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Zolo

Member
cameron said:
Sec Price on Trump involvement w/ healthcare bill: "This is the greatest amount of involvement by any president that I have ever witnessed"

— Abby D. Phillip (@abbydphillip) July 24, 2017​




On AF-1, Secy Price says he expects "positive outcome" tomorrow in Senate ObamaCare vote. Sanders/Scaramucci listen in. (Pool photo @W7VOA)

— Mark Knoller‏ (@markknoller) July 24, 2017​
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Trump must threaten his hires to say that he's the best at everything or he'll fire them.
 
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norm9

Member
From the comments by his sycophants and twitter bots, if you've never seen or heard Trump you'd think he was this alpha male Adonis with Hawking's brain, Derek Carr's arm, and maxed out Charisma that's the best at everything. But then you see him, and you're like this is the fucking guy you're talking about?
 
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tbm24

Member
cameron said:
Sec Price on Trump involvement w/ healthcare bill: "This is the greatest amount of involvement by any president that I have ever witnessed"

— Abby D. Phillip (@abbydphillip) July 24, 2017​




On AF-1, Secy Price says he expects "positive outcome" tomorrow in Senate ObamaCare vote. Sanders/Scaramucci listen in. (Pool photo @W7VOA)

— Mark Knoller‏ (@markknoller) July 24, 2017​
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Seems like the new strategy is to act like a mob with a gun to make sure people in the admin say what they want them to.
 
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RDreamer

Member
This bill is so toxic they know it couldn't stand public scrutiny long enough for one fucking senator to recover with brain cancer for a week.
 
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Maxim726X

Member
cameron said:
Sec Price on Trump involvement w/ healthcare bill: "This is the greatest amount of involvement by any president that I have ever witnessed"

— Abby D. Phillip (@abbydphillip) July 24, 2017​




On AF-1, Secy Price says he expects "positive outcome" tomorrow in Senate ObamaCare vote. Sanders/Scaramucci listen in. (Pool photo @W7VOA)

— Mark Knoller‏ (@markknoller) July 24, 2017​
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'Trump appointees suck Trump's balls.'

Not exactly sure what you thought Price would say here? Anyone that has followed this fiasco knows that he's a moron who has only tried to bully people into a vote.
 
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Izuna

Banned
Zyae said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Levitt
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Levitt refused to integrate his developments. The Jewish Levitt barred Jews from Strathmore, his first pre-Levittown development on Long Island in New York, and he refused to sell his homes to blacks. His sales contracts also forbade the resale of properties to blacks through restrictive covenants, although in 1957 a white couple resold their house to the first black family to live in a Levitt home. Levitt's all-white policies also led to civil rights protests in Bowie, Maryland in 1963.[8][9] The National Association for the Advancement of Colored People and the American Civil Liberties Union opposed Levitt’s racist policies, and the Federal Housing Administration prepared to refuse mortgages on his next Levittown. Nevertheless, Levitt would not back down and continued planning another whites-only Levittown in Willingboro Township, New Jersey. He fought legal challenges in New Jersey courts until the United States Supreme Court refused to hear his case.[13]

The 2003 PBS series Race: The Power of an Illusion, by California Newsreel, features Levittown and nearby Roosevelt in documenting systemic racism in the development of the early suburbs.
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oh ff
 
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GK86

Homeland Security Fail
Why is he taking about the stock market/economy to boy scouts?


Edit - Still with the electoral map? lol
 
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Autodidact

Banned
An older man telling younger men they can be utter fuckups and still defeat a competent, qualified woman.

What exactly is abnormal here?
 
TheLaughingStock

TheLaughingStock

Member
Blader said:
Yes, last month:

At the same time, I was careful to say again and again that while the Affordable Care Act represented a significant step forward for America, it was not perfect, nor could it be the end of our efforts – and that if Republicans could put together a plan that is demonstrably better than the improvements we made to our health care system, that covers as many people at less cost, I would gladly and publicly support it.

https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/posts/10154996557026749
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It's tough to come grips with the reality that the GOP will fail to come up with a plan that covers ≥ 91% at less than 17.8% of GDP. Pres. Obama is explicitly telling Republicans he would gladly support their efforts toward a different vision and approach than the one he took. However, the GOP is struggling to repudiate a collection of conservative policies and dogma about markets that Obama leveraged to pass the ACA.

You would think the GOP would want to see if Obama is really telling the truth about supporting something demonstrably better than what he passed, but they don't seem interested in taking him up on his offer.
 
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epmode

Member
So what about that decision where key provisions of the Senate bill can't be passed via reconciliation? What is this vote, anyway?
 
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