Psychoward
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Well one side is objectively the right one unless you're anti-science and anti-civil rights yes.
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Trump to lift Obama restrictions on Military Weapons/Vehicles for Police
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TetraGenesis
Member
Hahahaha, and this is what it comes down to, exactly.
Except it's not...because one party had the power to obstruct and currently the other party doesn't. Regardless of that there is one party who's sole aim is to obstruct instead of govern. Exacerbated by the fact that the party who does nothing but obstruct can't govern when it's all on them.
Not to mention the dems are always bashed for reaching across the aisle and not going the lengths the GOP do.
Really the point is you'd hope the GOP supporters would take the time out their us against them mentality and support the fact that some things don't benefit any of us. I expect this same crap when it comes to net neutrality.
And this..
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Look how outgunned they are right now.
That's some Mad Max shit right there
Gabriel_Logan
Member
Look how outgunned they are right now.
lol this looks like a MW2 screenshot.
RPGCrazied
Member
Military style police, oh what can go wrong. Do these people not remember Furgeson? Trump trying to be more awful then Kim from North Korea.
Yep.
And remember, this was their response to the Ferguson protests not Nazis/KKK at Charlottesville.
Psychoward
Banned
They also rolled down tanks in Baton Rouge after the police execution protests there.
RPGCrazied
Member
I heard one of those Nazis fired of a shot and the police didn't move. Shows where their allegiance is with.
Fuck.
And we can't depend on Congress to stop this with a law because it lets them stuff pork via the military and building more vehicles than they need, so the military just started sending the extra stuff to police. It lets them 'disappear' vehicles so that Congress can order more built.
And we can't depend on Congress to stop this with a law because it lets them stuff pork via the military and building more vehicles than they need, so the military just started sending the extra stuff to police. It lets them 'disappear' vehicles so that Congress can order more built.
Shadow Puppetry
Member
Jesus Christ, he needs to stop being one of those crazy exes.
djplaeskool
Member
Yeah, after people saw what was happening in Ferguson and thought, "Why the fuck are police deploying heavy military equipment against civilians?"
In the eyes of conservatives, minorities have always been enemies of the state since 1865.
paperboywriter
Member
Nuclear weapons isn't surprising anymore so this is part of the course
BoogieWoogie
Banned
This would have happened under any Republican president honestly, but Trump's still a gigantic asshole for it.
PHOENIXZERO
Member
Yay! More Barney Fifes getting to play soldier.
Come on. It's "par for the course".
There is an unfair double standard regarding the Democrats being held to a higher standard than the Republicans are when it comes to reaching across the aisle. I agree.
That said it is basically what I said. Both sides think they're right and both sides want their side to hamper the other's agenda. That includes me, I want the Democrats to fight Trump tooth and nail frankly. Of course I'd be happy if both parties could come to a compromise on things to move forward but generally with the caveat that the Republicans move left on that hypothetical issue as opposed to the Democrats moving right, and I'm sure my conservative counterparts feel the same just in reverse.
Now, recognizing this isn't attributing right or wrong to either party it just what it is, being objectively right on most of the matters is somewhat irrelevant. Like, of course our Supreme Court seat was stolen from us, of course the Republicans would cry foul if we had done the same to them but of course we'd probably be happy if we do the same to Trump in the future(if it were possible).
I don't really know how this gets better, our electoral system kinda damns us in this regard now. You have land versus people essentially, either a majority of the population imposing their will on a majority of the land or a majority of the land imposing their will on the majority of the people.
I do find this somewhat fascinating now though with Trump's approval rating being what it is. If it were closer to 50/50 it'd be one thing but below 40% and no real huge disaster(Harvey excluded since it's not in the numbers yet) if his numbers hover around this area for the rest of his Presidency or even fall further it seems rather fascist to tell over 60% of the population to shut the fuck up and fall in line behind their man.
The general idea of essentially running to undue another's "legacy" is rather disgusting to me. I don't think you can really govern a country effectively when there's that much political instability and laws and policies have a 4 to 8 year shelf life. However, despite Trump undoing much of Obama's shit he can't actually touch Obama's legacy. All of Trump's "wins" besides the Supreme Court seat will likely be just as short lived as Obama's, Obama will always be credited with doing them first regardless if it's a later Presidents EO or a later law passed by Congress that sticks. Trump will forever be seen as a response to Obama, and not a good one, which all but ensures that everything Obama did will also be well recorded and discussed in the future. Obama stands on his own, Trump would literally be nothing without Obama.
Gordon Shumway
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Not a GAF thing. Just people doing what people do..on the internet or otherwise..
paperboywriter
Member
I have to change my phone keyboard, sorry
"...would roll back an Obama administration executive order that blocked armored vehicles, large-caliber weapons, ammunition and other heavy equipment..."
We're not just talking tacticool.
Yeah, after people saw what was happening in Ferguson and thought, "Why the fuck are police deploying heavy military equipment against civilians?"
Thing is that nothing in that pic would fall under the Obama restrictions as that's all equipment made and sold to the public and LEOs. What Obama restricted was tracked armored vehicles, heavy sniper rifles (such as 50 cal), grenade launches, and riot gear.
Anyone (non-military) can buy the AR-15s in that pic, the body armor, the helmets, the police patches, and even the armored vehicle. If you have the money, you can buy your own armored limo, armored suv, etc... The armored vehicle in the pic is built specifically for Police as it is too weak and slow to ever be military.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
Look how outgunned they are right now.
The McDonalds in the background only puts emphasis on how terrifying this image is.
So it's a day that ends with a "Y" then.
bigmit3737
Member
Trump is getting more and more dangerous .
His response to the nazi events , the transgender military thing , the pardon of that Sherrif, the militaraizarion of police -all in one week it seems .
He's not holding back anymore .
His response to the nazi events , the transgender military thing , the pardon of that Sherrif, the militaraizarion of police -all in one week it seems .
He's not holding back anymore .
Glass Shark
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It's not even a joke at this point that he's just doing the literal opposite of whatever Obama would do, like I really believe that's his thought process. He hates the man so much that he became president just to spite him.
Lightning_Roller
Banned
I think someone said it earlier, but I think we are on course to see trump basically saying "If defended "racist group" is racist, then I'm racist" at some point.
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Karsticles
Member
I honestly feel like the pee pee tape is more likely now than ever. Before, it was so odd and spiteful I found it hard to justify.
Gordon Shumway
Banned
Awaiting the handmaids announcement from the Whitehouse by year's end..
LegendofJoe
Member
You literally do not know what you are talking about.
Not only do Dems have lower average EO amount, Obama had the lowest of any modern president. The whole Obama executive order tyrant myth is an invention of far right media.
thecouncil
Banned
Someone just needs to keep track of all the reversions so the next President can reinstate all of it again. Big waste of time.
zonetrooper5
Member
Maybe you guys could use your second amendment to stop a fascist government like alot of the gun supporters blag on about.
That was never the reason, ever.
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
You literally do not know what you are talking about.
Not only do Dems have lower average EO amount, Obama had the lowest of any modern president. The whole Obama executive order tyrant myth is an invention of far right media.
You're trying to argue with someone who has zero interest in good faith discussion. It's been this way for as long as I've even noticed their posts, and i'm honestly surprised they're still allowed to post with the sheer amount of misinformation and not-so-subtle support of all of the horrific shit this administration has done they've been spewing. They have no value whatsoever.
Bruce Wayne1
Member
Why do police even need military grade weaponry? Is something wrong with what they have now?
Omega Kirby
Member
Don't American police kill enough people already for unjustifiable reasons? Now they have more weapons to choose from, brilliant
Policemen are envious of civials with automatic assault rifles /s
Im times of possible terror attacks policemen usually have more presence and military type gear to scare off possible threads. That's a common psychological tactic. The person might get cold feet after all. What's happening in the US tho is way and beyond anything reasonable. Two possible thoughts come to mind:
a) the US's perverse hard on for guns and b) military corporations having a tight grip on the government.
Sadly, I don't think anything will change in the foreseeable future.