#collusion
Is that real ? Censorship ? Good idea genius, trying to sweep it quietly under the rug.
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Twitch vs Speedrun Community Drama (update: Twitch officially responds)
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Is that real ? Censorship ? Good idea genius, trying to sweep it quietly under the rug.
He is breaking up with his boyfriend because he was a dick on Twitch?
How does that work?
CHEEZMO
Obsidian fan
Saving the fuck out of this
Now some twitch admins are trying to get that r/speedrun thread down. They are getting in contact with reddit admins. What the fuck, twitch needs to grow a pair or this shit is going to keep happening. Jesus I don't even want to go to any twitch streams anymore after seeing how they acted. I only watch 1 stream a week so it isn't to bad, but god damn.
I'm sorry, this is just plain offensive for a "support" page. It is akin to taking a dump on your user-base.
Pristine_Condition
Member
#collusion
I coined this phrase a long time ago, but it bears repeating because it's still true: Reddit is the whitewash capital of the internet.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Yeah, this dude went pretty HAM in one of the streams, and if any mod deserved to be shat at, he sort of deserved it. Someone raided a streamer with the whole "REMOVE HORROR" shit, and that admin stealthed in and put the room in subscriber mode (the streamer had no Partnership). This led to the streamer getting pissed and getting into a verbal fight with the admin for implying the streamer was encouraging this. The streamer made a user mod to allow users to post again, and I think that admin permbanned the appointed mod.
Absolutely ridiculous.
#collusion
How cute he doesn't want a shitstorm by reddit... how about working to prevent the problem altogether instead of censoring shit?
theprodigy
Member
inb4 every major gaming site picks up on this story and the censorship backfires
Hot Coldman
Banned
Jared's probably just crying in a corner by now
seems like the only person who is applying common sense in his responses
seems like the only person who is applying common sense in his responses
Velcro Fly
Member
Yeah it's one thing to ban the antagonists but to try and get a thread deleted that has some solid information on what exactly happened is complete bullshit.
Didn't they just get 20 million in investments? I can bet you those investors are not too happy right now.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidew...aming-site-twitch-secures-another-20-million/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/davidew...aming-site-twitch-secures-another-20-million/
#collusion
They want to censor Reddit too?
Twitch's mods are a bunch of geniuses aren't they lol
This is getting worse. Streisand effect for sure lol
#collusion
Fotheringay
Member
twitch.tv/Werster
Werster's talking about the situation now.
Werster's talking about the situation now.
Terbinator
Member
stump sock
Member
Peaches is one of the most entertaining and interesting people in the speedrun community, and I feel like that's a segment of their creators that they might not want to lose.
This is ridiculously unprofessional on so many levels.
This is ridiculously unprofessional on so many levels.
lol... good luck with that.
Shining Sunshine
Banned
Atlus announces Fursona 5
Didn't the mod he appointed get banned though?
Dougstyles
Banned
Twitch could not possibly be coming off as any more amateurish than they are now. This is is bad PR DEFCON 1. Unfathomable idiocy.
The issue with the emotes goes a bit beyond a manchild fight. For Twitch partners, the two primary ways to earn income is through broadcasting ads (which have horrible fillrates and buyrates, but that's another matter entirely) and through subscriptions, which are a passive monthly fee for the broadcaster. One of the biggest benefits that a streamer can offer is custom emotes, as they can be a far stronger incentive for people to subscribe than most people realize. However (as it's been illustrated by other people here), actually getting the emotes approved for your channel is a pain in the ass. So having an admin's boyfriend jump in front of everyone else because they're dating is, if nothing else, going to piss a bunch of people off who have some real money riding on those silly emotes.
That's the messed up part about banning werster -- he was making enough money from his Pokemon runs to live off it. So by banning him they effectively fired him, as well. Granted, if I made the comment he made to someone where I work, I would be pretty damn likely to be fired too... the difference is, that sort of behavior is not tolerated by anyone in a normal workplace, whereas Twitch chat can be the cesspool. And the admin in question might be part of the problem, to boot (warning: I can't directly source this). Edit edit:Someone posted some screenshots--removed because I've been told that the screenshots were faked.
EDIT: uh oh Twitch plz don't ban me for talking bad about your site on a third party forum.
That's the messed up part about banning werster -- he was making enough money from his Pokemon runs to live off it. So by banning him they effectively fired him, as well. Granted, if I made the comment he made to someone where I work, I would be pretty damn likely to be fired too... the difference is, that sort of behavior is not tolerated by anyone in a normal workplace, whereas Twitch chat can be the cesspool. And the admin in question might be part of the problem, to boot (warning: I can't directly source this). Edit edit:
I think part of the issue is that people who runs streams are too closely tied to Twitch -- they're not branding themselves independent of Twitch as well as they could. I remember when Sp00ky moved from Twitch to Own3d for a bit -- the stream was much higher quality (this is back when Twitch performed like shit on the east coast) and the chat was MUCH less stupid, but he lost about half of his viewership and there were constant complains over the lack of emotes. There were even people who thought he stopped streaming, being completely unaware that he just moved to a different platform. Discoverablity on Twitch is a lot better than UStream's and Youtube Live, as well.
EDIT: uh oh Twitch plz don't ban me for talking bad about your site on a third party forum.
I don't know, but i wouldn't be surprised one bit
Yeah, admin abuse is totally fine, only manchildren cares about petty things like that lol
smh
Banananana
Neo Member
You know, despite all this hot air, Twitch still has a monopoly on gaming streams.
They know this, and it seems like they think they can get away with anything apparently, and there's nothing we viewers can do about it since they're the only store in town.
Sad.
They know this, and it seems like they think they can get away with anything apparently, and there's nothing we viewers can do about it since they're the only store in town.
Sad.
Professor Lich
Member
Who owns Twitch.tv anyway?
Pristine_Condition
Member
Hot Coldman
Banned
stay easy, reddit mods
Black Door
Banned
Nice to see that some of the world's most premier websites are still run by children. Lessons learned from the Lowtax School of Public Relations, I suppose
Velcro Fly
Member
Most of the really awful stuff happened on twitter too. It's the internet as a whole, not just twitch
theprodigy
Member
ew, that site?
Relaxed Muscle
Member
There has to be someone in high positions in that company with enough common sense and start lashing out those mods.
malboroking
Banned
Lowtax is a douche, but I love the SA forums.
I don't really see the connection that Cyghfer has to this, honestly. I think that part of the story is tenuous at best.
However, the people who work at Twitch need to realize that by making emotes of themselves or loved ones for use in public channels, they are making themselves public figures (at least public in the Twitch/IRC/video game streaming environment) and as public figures, they will often be on the receiving end of mockery and ridicule. If that's not acceptable, then they should stay behind the scenes. Remember what happened to EMPJared.
Also, I had never heard of Horror until 6 hours ago. My life was happier then.
However, the people who work at Twitch need to realize that by making emotes of themselves or loved ones for use in public channels, they are making themselves public figures (at least public in the Twitch/IRC/video game streaming environment) and as public figures, they will often be on the receiving end of mockery and ridicule. If that's not acceptable, then they should stay behind the scenes. Remember what happened to EMPJared.
Also, I had never heard of Horror until 6 hours ago. My life was happier then.
Fotheringay
Member
Admitting you're working with Reddit to censor stuff might possibly be the dumbest thing you could do. And the mod that admitted it was making light of it in Werster's chat a few minutes ago.
Passive Assassin
Member
fishstix pls.
If part of the way to incentivize people to subscribe is through custom emotes, how does a global emote that anyone can use benefit a streamer? How does a random global emote being made negatively impact other streamers who are trying to get their own custom emotes made available?
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