NotTheGuyYouKill
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Yeah, I thought Ubi Toronto was doing the Conviction sequel.
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Ubisoft will make a surprise - Splinter Cell: Blacklist
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Yeah, I thought Ubi Toronto was doing the Conviction sequel.
I think a lot of the leads and senior staff are the same.
Maxime Beland (Creative Director on SC5) is most likely involved since he now works at UbiTO.
Alexandre Parizeau (Lead Producer on SC5) is also probably involved since he is there as well.
Read up a bit on Ubisoft TO here.
They are/were hiring staff for the PC version of SC6 (you can find this by looking on the Ubisoft job listings site) too, so hopefully your PC concerns will be taken care of.
Back to the topic at hand, more Splinter Cell is great news. If it's something separate from SC6, I'd be even more excited since that means there is more than 1 SC game currently in the works. Can't wait to hear about it.
Ubisoft logic is ridiculous. The guys who made Chaos Theory were relegated to the old gen version while the guys who make the "off year" Splinter Cell's had the HD versions.
Sho_Nuff82
Member
I'm torn. Conviction has great controls and pretty great co-op missions, but the lack of vs multi and the crappy forced conflicts in the SP were definitely a downer.
Here's hoping we they bring back the NVG and the sound meter instead of desaturation and the bat-visor.
Here's hoping we they bring back the NVG and the sound meter instead of desaturation and the bat-visor.
Jake Tower
Banned
Splinter Cell: Blacklist 2 - Ziff Davis
Chuck Norris
Banned
Just give me an old school stealth game
No, it's the same as the 360 version.
Spies vs. Mercs or no buy.
I still can't fathom how that type of brilliant, game-changing multiplayer was devised, only to be inexplicably discarded this gen (wasn't a fan of the dumbed down DA multi either).
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
I love the first 4 Splinter Cells, but I never played Conviction. I hope Blacklist is a return to form.
Well gee golly, you convinced me.
Agent Ironside
Member
Gaah I hope they get Amon Tobin back doing the full soundtrack.
Neuromancer
Member
Hey I liked Conviction. So I'm probably down.
The internet's hatred for "hipsters" made them change it. I would have accepted bearded Sam just fine.
legacyzero
Banned
This times INFINITY! My favorite multiplayer experience!
Nibel not only do you smell great, you are completely right.
Majukun
Member
what the flying fuck...?
Rodney McKay
Member
Please remove the black and white color desaturation for stealth indication.
I really like that game, but that was so fucking annoying. Just have the light on Sam's bag to indicate it or (better yet) just put a sound/brightness meter on the screen like the first game!
I really like that game, but that was so fucking annoying. Just have the light on Sam's bag to indicate it or (better yet) just put a sound/brightness meter on the screen like the first game!
Wasn't just the beard which was badass, the concept of the game just seemed a lot more fresh and original.
Agent Ironside
Member
This.
Not really surprising. DS, Wii and 3DS launched with SC games too.
MR BLACKMAGIK
Member
I liked Conviction, but like most people I would rather see more stealth focus less action.
10000 times agree!!'
Dance Inferno
Unconfirmed Member
I would actually argue that playing it completely stealthily is frustratingly difficult because the game wants to be an action game, and actively punishes you for trying to hide and sneak around.
This is the only game where at one point I pulled the disc out of the console and came within inches of snapping it in half. Needless to say I never finished it.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
Hey guys... who will Sam be working for in this game? Considering all that's left of Third Echelon is Sam, Grimm, Fryer the computer geek, and a secretary. Everyone is either dead or got blown up.
Rodney McKay
Member
Nothing wrong with it in Saboteur or in-general, it was just badly used in Conviction.
Saboteur it was cool because of how it emphasized color, was used as a (blunt) metaphor for restoring Freedom to areas, and really added to the aesthetic of the game.
In Conviction it serves no purpose other than to indicate you are in the dark. Even worse, since you are often in areas that are very dark, having the game go black and white makes it harder to see the environment.
If they HAVE to do it again at least just make Sam turn black and white or something less intrusive on the gameplay. Or just use the little light on Sam's gear to indicate it; it's easy to see, it's integrated into the gameworld, and it doesn't get in the way.
ShipTheCheese
Member
Loved the original trilogy, loved Conviction, I'm hyped.
chickdigger802
Banned
conviction was decent. A bunch of the animations looked awkward though. Hated the whole b/w thing. Remember when SC games had like the best shadows around? Build off that. If I look like a dude who's hidden by darkness, than i should be hidden. Simple as that.
I found it annoying because you play most of the game with no colors, a bit like in the first SC where everything was grey because you spent most of the time with Sam's NV goggle on.
Rodney McKay
Member
I explained what I don't like about the desaturation above, but they already solved the HUD issue in Double Agent in a much less intrusive way.
Fisher had a little light on him (Dead Space style) that changed color depending on how concealed you were. It perfectly conveyed necessary information and was nicely integrated into the game world; instead of altering the games entire color scheme to convey that one little bit of information.
They already added in the projected information thing which gives Conviction a cool aesthetic, but the desaturation just feels like it was tacked on at the last minute. The Saboteur is built all around having the black and white with color artstyle. Conviction just uses it the same way many games use strawberry jelly to indicate you've taken damage. It's lazy at best and intrusive at worst.
weeman_com
Neo Member
Just caught this thread linked at another website.
I personally have a friend who works at ubi and on this title... Afaik from discussions with them, they have confirmed the next Splinter Cell game will be at E3. Although I dont have concrete evidence on the consoles front. They have stated to me that they do not know much about WiiU and its abilities so that would somewhat suggest to me that it isn't on that system, although there is a possibility its being handled by another team elsewhere. Whilst they have commented on what apparently the other next gen consoles capabilities look to be "beautiful".
I personally have a friend who works at ubi and on this title... Afaik from discussions with them, they have confirmed the next Splinter Cell game will be at E3. Although I dont have concrete evidence on the consoles front. They have stated to me that they do not know much about WiiU and its abilities so that would somewhat suggest to me that it isn't on that system, although there is a possibility its being handled by another team elsewhere. Whilst they have commented on what apparently the other next gen consoles capabilities look to be "beautiful".
Even though I hope the singleplayer will improve as well, I'm just hoping for spies vs mercs. It really is unique compared to most multiplayer games. <3 pandora and CT (ok, and double agent a bit as well).
Agent Ironside
Member
Functionally, yes it worked. I just hated playing most of the game in black and white.
Ubisoft has had dev kits for quite some time now, they probably have a good understanding of it at this point.