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Ultra Street Fighter II: The Final Challengers |OT| Retro Salt At Twice The Price!
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Yeah but it won't change the graphics on your end though.
AgentOtaku
Member
oh I know them feels man. I was genuinely surprised how trash the Pro-Controller Dpad is for things other than menus and some sidescrollers
sixteen-bit
Member
No interest in the 8Bitdo pads?
I love the 8bitdo controllers and definitely recommend trying them out. I'm sure they're not for everyone, but I've been using the snes versions for a couple of years , and I now have the nes pros I got yesterday. Worked great with SF2.
I just have a funny feeling Nintendo is gonna system update those out. :/
I really wouldn't recommend it based off my experience with one sadly, lots of unintended crouching and jumping.
Thankfully I'm getting on pretty well with both the pro dpad and the joycon buttons, the latter of which being an immensely pleasant surprise! Only motion I find tricky on it is Guile's super combo, but that one is pain no matter what the control method
I really wouldn't recommend it based off my experience with one sadly, lots of unintended crouching and jumping.
Thankfully I'm getting on pretty well with both the pro dpad and the joycon buttons, the latter of which being an immensely pleasant surprise! Only motion I find tricky on it is Guile's super combo, but that one is pain no matter what the control method
How old are your 8bitdos? I've heard that was a problem in the past, but I have yet to encounter that. Weird. But obviously many have brought up that issue. Of course, unwanted up presses seem to be a pro controller issue as well.
Bought it after the announcement of Switch compatibility last week alas. Whether it was an older one they had in stock or not though I'm not sure. Even then though...between that, various connection issues and it causing my Switch to lock up with an error message at one point, I can't recommend it sadly.
I've luckily been alright with my Pro dpad, not sure if that's down to varying manufacturing standards. Frankly, for how much they charge for it the dpad should be the best on any controller to date :/
Nah it does, I forget what the option's called but it's there in the main menu options and the pause menu. Important for me as I'm a weirdo in wanting weak attacks on the shoulders and mid-strong on the face buttons!
Slightly related; I desperately wish the visuals/sound option was on the pause menu or even possible via a button prompt, Wonder Boy 3r really spoiled me in that regard.
It has button config.
Okay found it, whew! It was under controller settings but I had to switch to Lite which was confusing (I assumed that was EO mode before). Like you I need Fierce mapped to the face buttons.
bodeiseifer
Member
Been playing this solidly since Friday, have not touched injustice 2 since but:
-The online is not great, definitely not ggpo
-The retro graphics mode looks awful, needs a filter and scanlines
Not much activity online, or on twitch, YouTube, everything about this game online relates to the price
Joycons are pretty serviceable, pro controller dpad is good but not great
I seem to get thrown all the damn time online, seems squiffy
-The online is not great, definitely not ggpo
-The retro graphics mode looks awful, needs a filter and scanlines
Not much activity online, or on twitch, YouTube, everything about this game online relates to the price
Joycons are pretty serviceable, pro controller dpad is good but not great
I seem to get thrown all the damn time online, seems squiffy
f@luS
More than a member.
It looks fine handheld. But on tv yikes
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
It's a shame the online is garbage cuz that's a cool feature.
I spent about an hour with the art books in this game last night. Those books are so expensive, this really is a feature more of us should care about as the assets are extremely high res and in many cases you can appreciate them even more than you could in the books. It's cool that capcom was able to include all of the original assets instead of just scanning books, stuff needs to be ripped and preserved imo. One thing I noticed while going through this stuff was that part of the reason I struggle to get into modern street fighter is that it's so damn awful visually. It's weird because.. it both is and isn't awful if that makes any sense? The graphics of 5 for example are beautiful on a technical level but when I look at something like third strike I just find myself wishing for a new 2d entry.
I was playing a bit of the story mode on 5 yesterday (wow...) and I just kept cracking up at the characters, basketball boobs and meatball looking dudes everywhere, it's just not a great look (don't even get me started on banana hair ken) and sadly I doubt we will ever see a true return to form, this is the way going forward. I have had a good time with this release for sure, I know the price is a huge stopping block for some but this IS a good port of the game with some good balance changes + one or two cool new features (tech throws and color edit are awesome!) for 30$ it would be a no brainer and for myself that was basically the cost I paid with prime pre order.
On the 8bitdo controllers, I picked up the SFC30 (snes style) and it arrived day one with the game. I have read complaints from people in this thread regarding these controllers but I have had 0 issues with mine. The d-pad might even be better than the pro controller fwiw as I had heard maximillian dood complain about doing dragon punches on that controller and I am able to fire those off endlessly back to back on the 8bitdo without a single miss. I too would consider myself a stick player (SFIV TE) but I'm having no problem on this pad. I do find it hilarious how many people who are good at street fighter can't be good at the game on a controller though, I have been dominating in ranked but I know as soon as stick support is in I am going to have trouble, y'all spoiled hardcore and need them specialty controllers for sure lol.
I was playing a bit of the story mode on 5 yesterday (wow...) and I just kept cracking up at the characters, basketball boobs and meatball looking dudes everywhere, it's just not a great look (don't even get me started on banana hair ken) and sadly I doubt we will ever see a true return to form, this is the way going forward. I have had a good time with this release for sure, I know the price is a huge stopping block for some but this IS a good port of the game with some good balance changes + one or two cool new features (tech throws and color edit are awesome!) for 30$ it would be a no brainer and for myself that was basically the cost I paid with prime pre order.
On the 8bitdo controllers, I picked up the SFC30 (snes style) and it arrived day one with the game. I have read complaints from people in this thread regarding these controllers but I have had 0 issues with mine. The d-pad might even be better than the pro controller fwiw as I had heard maximillian dood complain about doing dragon punches on that controller and I am able to fire those off endlessly back to back on the 8bitdo without a single miss. I too would consider myself a stick player (SFIV TE) but I'm having no problem on this pad. I do find it hilarious how many people who are good at street fighter can't be good at the game on a controller though, I have been dominating in ranked but I know as soon as stick support is in I am going to have trouble, y'all spoiled hardcore and need them specialty controllers for sure lol.
Be wary of casual mode man they allow the use of 1 button supers, complete shenanigans in there!
added_time
Member
I'm doing pretty well online. A lot of laggy matches though. Anyone else having that problem?
Shellshock929
Member
Not really laggy for me since I have a USB Ethernet adapter.
added_time
Member
I have the USB adapter as well. I had zero lag for the ARMS test punch as well. It must have been the other player's connection I guess
catpurrcat
Member
Yes me. I have a stellar wired internet connection and still get a handful of laggy matches.
Other games are perfectly fine.
I just filter it via Custom settings, though I imagine you'll get alot of that with quick match lol.
Been considering a USB Ethernet adapter, which one did you buy? I am getting 34/8 over wifi which doesn't seem bad imo but I have noticed nobody has a full signal connection online usually only half.
7DollarHagane
Banned
I've heard this said but I was just playing galaxy fight and waku waku 7 with it and never noticed an issue.
I also went into the settings and did the rapid tapping of a direction and left/right motions and everything displayed just as expected.
Are you guys tapping the direction on the pad and lifting your finger when not pressing a button, or sliding your finger around the pad keeping it pressed down lightly all the time?
I think the pro controller dpad was made for tapping not sliding, but it works for sliding fireball motions too.
Having a blast with online matches as well but where it realt shines is the local multiplyer aspect for me. The joycons work surprisingly well and I even play single joycon online. The controls are very responsive.
Now that I played it a bunch, Im going to tey out some other characters besides Ken. Im digging fei long. Any good pro tips for him? Seems kind of a weak character compared to Ken.
Now that I played it a bunch, Im going to tey out some other characters besides Ken. Im digging fei long. Any good pro tips for him? Seems kind of a weak character compared to Ken.
Jonneh3003
Banned
What's bad about it? I've had a quick and lagless experience.
blitz64
Member
katsubento
Member
I just ordered a pair of the snes ones from off Amazon. Hope they work out.
//ARCANUM
Member
Need some advice here. I can pull off raging demon (akuma and evil ryu's super) all day long, 10x in a row on a stick. But I can't for the life of me pull it off even 2x in a row on any control solution I've tried on switch.
I've tried:
- Pro controller d-pad
- Pro controller joystick
- Joycon d-pad
- Joycon joystick
And I tried it on 2 different pro controllers as well in case one was malfunctioning.
Nothing I do will pull this off accurately. I try in training mode with input display on and check and I'm sure enough hitting the right inputs over and over, but it's only pulling it off maybe 2/10 times at best on any control solution.
Any advice on how I can adjust my style since I'm not planning on buying a $150 stick just for the Switch (and that isn't even an option to purchase currently).
I've tried:
- Pro controller d-pad
- Pro controller joystick
- Joycon d-pad
- Joycon joystick
And I tried it on 2 different pro controllers as well in case one was malfunctioning.
Nothing I do will pull this off accurately. I try in training mode with input display on and check and I'm sure enough hitting the right inputs over and over, but it's only pulling it off maybe 2/10 times at best on any control solution.
Any advice on how I can adjust my style since I'm not planning on buying a $150 stick just for the Switch (and that isn't even an option to purchase currently).
Lupin the Third
Member
Maybe it's being deliberately obfuscated even when you do it correctly, kinda like how SF1 doesn't just do your special moves every time you do the correct inputs? To help even out Akuma's power level maybe? (Heck, he is banned in all tournaments AFAIK on proper Super SF2T).
AgentOtaku
Member
Yeah, that's what I noticed too-- designed for tapping and not sliding ala the Sega Saturn pad
I'm not complaining that this exists, the Switch needed it, but it would've been nice if they'd added two new fighters as well. I know there's balancing and other factors, but if they'd taken the two most popular absent characters and thrown them in (or even just surprises), fans would've been more happy than not about it, and it would've helped moved hardware for Nintendo. Lord knows, I'd have cared a lot of they'd tossed in a couple of redrawn SF1 characters, like Eagle and Retsu.
Soundslike
Neo Member
For me its the online that saves this game.
I have kof98 and garou, but without someone to play with, its arcade mode is to hard
I have kof98 and garou, but without someone to play with, its arcade mode is to hard
AgentOtaku
Member
absolutely agree
I have to drop Garou and KOF down to "2" difficulty, otherwise, it ceases to be any fun, not to mentioned I'm handicapped by the controls (i'm primarily a stick player)
Yup. I've just been bouncing between ranked and casual. I've played arcade a few times too but online is where it's at
f@luS
More than a member.
I can do it anytime when I change my grip and use my right hand like on a stick not with the first finger. Which is uncomfortable to switch ingame and lose a lot of time online
I pretty much 'learned' to deal with the shitiness of the Pro Controller's D-Pad after playing all day, yesterday.
In the end I was nailing air Hadoken and Raging Demon with Akuma without issues most of the time. But yeah, Pro Controller D-Pad is shit.
Toadthemushroom
Member
This was still at number 1 in the Amazon France video game charts yesterday, but it's finally slipped down to number 2- overtaken by Tekken 7.
sixteen-bit
Member
Fighting game renaissance
7DollarHagane
Banned
It seems like some are assuming the online is bad because nintendo
