Can't say i'm surprised. Unfortunately.
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Uncharted: The Lost Legacy - Review Thread
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Can't say i'm surprised. Unfortunately.
LightofRohan
Member
I'm probably one of the biggest Uncharted fanboys, but this might be the first Uncharted game I wait for. The premise just seems very uninteresting, not sure why I should care about Chloe and Nadine. If it was like Sam and Nadine or Chloe and Elena or some other combo, I'd be slightly more interested. Like Ellie and Riley made a bunch of sense and I was interested in their story. But this just seems real 'fan-fictiony' in a way...
Do any of the reviews mention the story being rewarding and essential to the Uncharted universe?
Edit: I think I figured it out...
Chloe is very much a side-dish character, she's great, but she compliments the main character well. Nadine is also very underveloped sub-side character, she had a great character arc, but still not very interesting all around.
Putting TWO side characters together, just seems weird. Wish they'd just pair them up with a main character from the series.
Do any of the reviews mention the story being rewarding and essential to the Uncharted universe?
Edit: I think I figured it out...
Chloe is very much a side-dish character, she's great, but she compliments the main character well. Nadine is also very underveloped sub-side character, she had a great character arc, but still not very interesting all around.
Putting TWO side characters together, just seems weird. Wish they'd just pair them up with a main character from the series.
WHAA??? I want to know more about each of them.
inpHilltr8r
Member
Forum is a collection of people with different viewpoints. Not a single hive mind. Not a double standard.
Megatron
Member
Oh shit. Pencil that in as Gaf's game of the year then!
To be fair though, Uncharted games always start slowly.
xenorevlis
Member
Oh I agree if someone is tired on the franchise, that's fine. However, reading the way they describe the game upfront conveys more like they didn't want to review it. I'm all for differing opinions.
The MC / OC scores don't bother me, but there have definitely been a few cases where someone who seemingly dislikes a series and has no intention of playing anymore is assigned the review. If you're doing to do that, why not offer a double opinion from someone who is more open to playing the game without predetermined dislike?
Agreed, as many of the reviews are showing. However, the review in question seems to ignore much of that and focuses a lot on the things we've seen before, regardless of the scale of the game, or what it does differently. I think if the reviewer were capable of suspending their dislike long enough to delve into the other aspects of it, they would have had a better review (regardless of the score).
I think if you are going to review something, coming from a point of dislike alone is a bit unfair for an honest review, unless the same site offers an alternative perspective from them as well so you can compare and contrast. IGN seemingly does this as they have people who both like and don't like or are indifferent about certain series across the world.
Danjin44
The nicest person on this forum
True that in Uncharted u also do lot of walking but u also fighting solving some puzzles and simple climbing. Most Walking simulators, all u are doing is WALKING.
this reason I hated Dear Esther. Both Journey and Dear Esther goal is to get from A to B but in Journey I'm jumping, guiding, sliding and even trying avoid obstacles but in Dear Esther all u are doing is walking and listening to narration, sorry i just don't find that fun.
xenorevlis
Member
While I would love this, stick me in the camp of wanting Sully to have his own adventure spanning multiple eras (if possible).
You could also include Chloe in that one, since they seem to have their own professional relationship off to the side.
As a fan, you should really play it. The story is bare bones, but the character interactions are fun. The Uncharted gameplay is still immensly fun (though a bit been there, done that), it's better paced than U4 and I can't go into specifics due to NDA, but imo it has one of the craziest and best set pieces of the series in the final level. It's exactly what I wanted of a "dlc".
LightofRohan
Member
Oooh shit. Yea I'll definitely play it, just feeling that waters on how early I want to jump into it with so much else to play. You're makin' me want to get it asap.
Trigonometrize.
Member
Oh, well discrediting a review/site seems like not the same thing as your original post, which seemed more about people putting too much stock in one person's opinion. The way people write off reviews without any reason whatsoever is annoying, yes. I could give probably five things I didn't like about Marty's (IGN) review, and I didn't even find it that bad or anything, while people that want to completely write off the 7.5 produce nothing.
Magic Mushroom
Member
Sounds great.
Primethius
Banned
GAF? Guess it's also going to be mostly everyone else's game of the year too.
Only speaking for myself here, but I don't view this as a double standard. It's the same standard being applied to many different works. Let's take Firewatch as an example. Interactions within the game are not particularly complex, but I found the writing to be thoughtful and compelling. I found the conversations to be systemically dynamic and strong from beginning to end. Now, there are more things happening in Uncharted, moment to moment, but for a series that is lauded for its characters and stories, I never found the games to be very well-written. UC4 is a bit of an exception. I thought it was uneven, but the characterization was much more interesting and complicated than in the previous three games.
But the point is this: I'm not really judging Uncharted and Firewatch by a different standard. I just think the writing and characterization in Firewatch is substantially better than that in Uncharted.
I think this is a claim that needs to be justified, though. It's super common for sites to only offer a perspective from a fan. I don't doubt that those writers, as fans, can still be thoughtful and critical, but I don't see why it's any better or worse to offer only a more sharply critical perspective. I think the writer-as-fan starting point, which is way more common, is a built-in expectation of enthusiast media. Personally, it's something I'd like to see games media get away from.
Megatron
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DriftingSpirit
Member
Definitely impressive. Sony's best studio in terms of returning investment this gen.
Switch Back 9
a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
I gave up on UC4 like 1/3 the way through because of boredom.
Had waaaaay more fun with Lost Legacy.
Just saying.
Had waaaaay more fun with Lost Legacy.
Just saying.
Nah, Uncharted 4 did, wasn't even all that close in the end.
Uncharted 4 had a 159
Overwatch had 98
http://gameranx.com/updates/id/95169/article/uncharted-4-wins-the-most-goty-awards-for-2016/
You are wrong. UC4 was easily the GOTY picks winner last year.
Trigonometrize.
Member
Sony at the end of the day really only cares about this one, and I think it may still be an if. I'd love it to be a success, but I'm not sure.
GameAddict411
Member
I just watched the Gamespot review and the reviewer claimed that it's only 6 hours long. I thought it was longer than the first Uncharted? It's good that I had the Amazon preorder discount, or I would have cancelled.
BBPunjabi816
Member
Does anyone know how we can download the game if we bought the uncharted 4 triple pack back in the day?
Nah.
It is a $40 critically acclaimed Uncharted/Naughty Dog game. It is going to do very well.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Why not? Since this will obviously have lower internal expectation, it should do fine.
People have completed it in a longer time. People aren't going to have the same play time.
If you just do the main quest in Western Ghats, then you can definitely beat the game in 6 or 7 hours.
I really don't see it not being a huge success at it's price. Certainly won't come close to Uncharted 4, but I'd be shocked if Sony expected it too, especially as the marketing isn't even close to as big.
My guess is it breaks a million first week.
Trigonometrize.
Member
I think it'll make a million lifetime. Which is very good. I'm just saying I don't see it guaranteed. I think this game being DLC but slowly blossoming into a near-full game hurt it some, just not sure to what extent. If this was revealed as a surprise next Uncharted game and it was always THE next Uncharted game, I'd be on the commercial success train for sure.
More_Badass
Member
Are you trying to say that it's a double standard to like those games because of what they focus on but then criticize those elements in Uncharted?
Because if you are, that's not a double standard. That's different standards. A "walking sim" and Uncharted are in two completely different genres, with different expectations, strengths, weaknesses, etc. Like how you don't go into an arcade racer expecting what you'd find in a racing sim even though they both feature cars and fast driving
People not liking the pacing in Uncharted doesn't mean they don't also like a game like Firewatch, because they're expecting and looking for different things in each game
Depends how fast you are and if you bothet to explore in the open worldish level. I had 6.20 on the clock in normal, but skipped a lot of the sidestuff and didn't bother to go look for treasures. That's stuff I always reserve for a second go.
It starting out as a DLC is the only reason I'm a tiny bit unsure, as I don't really know if they've done a good job letting people know it's more than that now, but still would be pretty surprised if it doesn't blast through a million quickly. Long term I think it tops out in 3 million range
Comrade Crunch
Member
Considering Uncharted 4 sold 2.7 million copies in its first week and 8.6 by December, I'm betting it'll do a whole lot better than that.
jonscrambler
Member
according to its source. Critics Picks is 90 for Overwatch and 89 for Uncharted4, somehow "Reader's Picks" are 76 for Uncharted 4 and only 12 for Overwatch, none of the other years have such an odd difference, yeah I don't give it much credibility. and it's not even a website just a post on blogspot
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Certainly a looker,
Metric fuckton of foliage.
gamersyde sends their regards.
wild wild rice
Member
This is the clear direction of the series and the developer.
Seems to be kind off the norm for User votes to be heavily onesided actually.
2015
Witcher 3
88
Fallout 4
18
Bloodborne
8
2014
Dragon Age Inquisition
33
Shadow of Mordor
4
Mario Kart 8
8
2013 being the exception with
The Last of Us
58
GTA 5
53
Bioshock Infinite
3
TissueBox
Member
I would definitely put it above 4 and 1. It's a damn fine Uncharted game
Sweeet glad to hear..!! ^^' Really hope to get on this soon... and yeah, I am hoping for a somewhat more... relaxed, tight experience compared to the occasional rigidness of its forebear.
ScaryShark
Banned
Why are people still saying this? 35 combat encounters in UC4. Thirty. Five.
That's sort of the point of the game, is it not?
FalsettoVibe
Member
Certainly a looker,Metric fuckton of foliage.gamersyde sends their regards.
Definitely a looker....
Shin-Ra
Junior Member
Gies? 🤗
I'd be surprised if they haven't already shipped and presold a million just for the launch.
DriftingSpirit
Member
Because of the bold. The poor pacing made it feel like there was little combat but there was actually quite a bit of it. It was just scattered in between too many clumps of other stuff.
jonscrambler
Member
well no, in the years that Reader's Picks are one sided the Critics Picks are also one sided (in favor of the same game)
TissueBox
Member
Some were saying he'd be relatively interesting.... though I would hope that is the case, I guess the general formula is one they never really planned to subvert lol. I liked a lot about Rafe but in the end it still left me a little... dry. Even if his cool drawl made him the series' most charming yet.
For me, Marlowe still remains number one. Her moments with Drake also comprise some of the series' best narrative moments, and she actually occupied a very personal, traumatic space in his life that really hit home. Though some of the whole 'deus ex' magician gimmicks felt under-cooked, her role as a maternal shadow was so wickedly done.