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USA Today: Federal government urges Americans to limit sugar to 10% of daily calories
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Coinspinner
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Bah, how do they expect me to eat enough fat and protein to eclipse the massive amount of sugar I will continue to eat?
Are they wrong though? I think listing natural sugars separately is more harmful tbh
Netherscourge
Banned
I balance my sugar with salt.
BobTheFork
Member
I had to look hard to find a yogurt that didn't have 9-18g of fucking sugar in it. It's the same with simple protein bars. It's amazing how many 'healthy' foods have a shit load of sugar in them to make it edible. Oh, the sugar free yogurt and protein bars taste like shit but at least it's within my diet.
Right - which is why I'm not sure what the value in breaking out "added" sugar is?
Actually open to hearing the countervailing point.
shoplifter
Member
What's uppity Michelle gonna tell me I can eat now?
DragonSworne
Banned
Stop drinking soda, juice, and stop eating fruit. Stop eating carbs, those are sugars too.
It makes you fat.
Sugar is the new gluten.
It makes you fat.
Sugar is the new gluten.
Iorv3th
Member
Isn't the sugars on the list already added sugars? If you do carbohydrates - sugars is that = 'natural' sugars??
Don't die of Diabetes man! You can change!
DragonSworne
Banned
Just eat vegetables and meat. Drink water. Live to a million.
Davey Cakes
Member
That's why I buy "unsweetened" almond milk. If I want to enhance the taste, I can always add something sweet or creamy.
I typically don't drink it anyway. The best use is in cereal or granola and smoothies, where it shines.
As for sugar, I don't actively try to avoid it and I indulge plenty. That said, a lot of foods would probably be better without ADDED sugar.
HiredN00bs
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In America, first you get the sugar...
I hear ya. I had pita chips today and felt like I did bad.
Yet folks guzzle sugar like nothing.
How does something taste too sweet and bland at the same time?
They also said men and teenage dudes should eat less meat.
I know my vegan friend is going to be ALL UPSET that they took out the recommendation that ALL people should be eating less meat due to the environmental impact, but even if the meat lobby forced their hand, I think I agree that it doesn't really belong in a report about the health impact of food.
I know my vegan friend is going to be ALL UPSET that they took out the recommendation that ALL people should be eating less meat due to the environmental impact, but even if the meat lobby forced their hand, I think I agree that it doesn't really belong in a report about the health impact of food.
On it's face, that doesn't seem disagreeable - but something isn't sitting right with me on that. I can appreciate the idea that 'total sugar' is probably more important than how much sugar in some food was added or just comes with it, but is there really no scientific evidence that says that added sugar is somehow worse? I guess if I think about it, I can't really think of how...
Fo real fo real. This country is beyond fucked when it comes to sugar intake and all the shit that comes with it. Better late than never, I guess.
Vincent Grayson
Member
There's no reason they shouldn't A. come right out and make a recommendation on total sugar (not added sugar, because that's fucking irrelevant) per day and B. require labeling that specifies additional sugar added on top of natural sugar.
Both are useful pieces of information.
Both are useful pieces of information.
Davey Cakes
Member
I mean, a single can of Pepsi has 42g of sugar and 150 calories. A single can already puts you right near the recommended MAXIMUM of sugar intake for the day.
And people oftentimes drink soda "like it's water."
It's legit frightening how much additional sugar people take in without necessarily realizing it.
internetwolf
Banned
sugar is really bad I try to avoid it as much as possible
What is useful about the bolded? Curious, legit want to know.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Someone explain to me what the difference between natural sugar and added sugar is?
Fleet_of_Foot
Member
Fruit is fine. There is no added sugar in fruit. It's the amount of sugar that's supposed to be in it, according to nature. The fiber in fruit helps you absorb the sugar more slowly, which is good.
It's juice that's the problem. Orange juice is all the sugar without any of the fiber.
Everyone should watch the movie "Fed Up" which is on Netflix right now. It's all about sugar and what a big scam it is, being forced on this country. People have no idea about sugar. That movie will change your life.
It's juice that's the problem. Orange juice is all the sugar without any of the fiber.
Everyone should watch the movie "Fed Up" which is on Netflix right now. It's all about sugar and what a big scam it is, being forced on this country. People have no idea about sugar. That movie will change your life.
GunslingerVit
Banned
Why so salty?
It's not like they are gonna take away your sugar, but it is a good recommendation to reduce the daily sugar intake.
ArkhamFantasy
Member
Soda needs to be taxed like crazy.
Yup.
My parents are at an age where they're developing health issues (my dad in particular) and are trying to be "healthier". My dad still feels entitled to drink soda every day, though, and doesn't seem to want to accept that soda is literally nothing more than liquid candy. Both of them gotta have their big ol' piece of cake or pie, or candy in my dad's case, after dinner every night. Don't tell me you're trying to be healthy or complain about your health when you consume this absolute garbage on a daily basis.
My dad's even had a couple diabetes scares, although thankfully it turns out he doesn't have it. You'd think that would get him off the soda and candy bars. Nope.
Afro Samurai
Banned
I'm fine if I drink tea without anything added to it?
John Kowalski
Banned
i get all my sugar from yuri, a safe and renewable source of quality sweetness
Pagusas
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Im guilty of a can of soda a day 
Feels bad man.
Trying to cut it out, but its not easy. Nothing gives you a kick like sugar, and long work days are hard to get through. I hate the taste of coffee and I really dont feel 5 hour energies are a good think to drink too often.
Soda's are really my only vise, I dont like candy very much and most of my work food is either Amy's microwave meals (like buritos and brocohli bowls) or PBJ's.
Dinner my wife and I have been doing better, whole foods like chicken, green beans and ussually a small roll to go with. Keeping it simple and home made.
Feels bad man.Trying to cut it out, but its not easy. Nothing gives you a kick like sugar, and long work days are hard to get through. I hate the taste of coffee and I really dont feel 5 hour energies are a good think to drink too often.
Soda's are really my only vise, I dont like candy very much and most of my work food is either Amy's microwave meals (like buritos and brocohli bowls) or PBJ's.
Dinner my wife and I have been doing better, whole foods like chicken, green beans and ussually a small roll to go with. Keeping it simple and home made.
Fleet_of_Foot
Member
I know this is a long article but if you read it and really recognize what it's saying, it will change a lot about how you eat:
http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/sugar-problem/refined-sugar-the-sweetest-poison-of-all
Short version - sugar is poison!
http://www.globalhealingcenter.com/sugar-problem/refined-sugar-the-sweetest-poison-of-all
Short version - sugar is poison!
Im guilty of a can of soda a day
Trying to cut it out, but its not easy. Nothing gives you a kick like sugar, and long work days are hard to get through. I hate the taste of coffee and I really dont feel 5 hour energies are a good think to drink too often.
Soda's are really my only vise, I dont like candy very much and most of my work food is either Amy's microwave meals (like buritos and brocohli bowls) or PBJ's.
Dinner my wife and I have been doing better, whole foods like chicken, green beans and ussually a small roll to go with. Keeping it simple and home made.
Try to get away from those microwave meals if you can; they aren't great for you, and they don't even taste that great?
A natural sugar would be the fructose that exists in an apple when you pluck it from the tree, or the lactose that exists in milk when you squeeze it from the udder.
Added sugar would be anywhere you see "high fructose corn syrup" on a food label.
God Dayumm
Banned
There are several kinds of sugars. For instance, galactose occurs naturally in milk. So a new label would differentiate between that and added sucrose or fructose.
While it is true that fructose is the worst of all sugars, you should still limit all of them and consume diligently. So the differentiation is not that useful
Lumination
'enry 'ollins
Natural sugar is stuff like sugar in an orange. Added sugar is like high fructose corn syrup.
Natural sugar is the "good" sugar, while added sugar should be avoided when possible. Don't overdo either one.
Edit: haha
Vincent Grayson
Member
Just as an example: when I buy peanut butter, I want peanut butter that's just peanuts, mashed up. There's like, 10 different kinds of peanut butter at ever grocery store though, and none of them specifically call out added sugar, so I need to look at each one to figure out which has ingredients beyond the only necessary one (peanuts).
While I think amount of sugar (total) is an important thing to watch, I at least would really love it if anything with sugar added to it had a specific callout as well though I don't think it needs to be on the nutrition info itself, but at least somewhere on the label.
I still don't understand what the value of natural vs added is here tho - can't fructose be "natural'?
Pagusas
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I actually really like the Buritos, Amy's microwavable stuff is the only microwave meals i've ever liked. And even if they didnt taste great they are still better than a can of Campbell soup or a PBJ. Honestly neither my wife or I are good cooks, so we dont often have good left overs. Also I go to work at 6am, its hard to get stuff together for a good lunch so early in the morning.
Do you have good simple lunch suggestions?
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