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Valve taking action against using VPNs to buy games out-of-region (read thread plz)
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SolsticeZero
Banned
LOL at the amount of people not reading into the fact that it's not gifting they're stopping, it's VPN purchases.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Reading is hard. Let's over react first!
Unless they crack down on it. Hopefully they won't and I don't think they will.
Hey man its reddit. They're always a valid source.
Cmon people actually read the damn thread instead of pissing yourself at the first chance to get outraged.
derExperte
Member
And even that is not new. People got temporatily banned for using VPN in some instances before. Years ago actually.
Seriously. We're talking about data here so absolutely nothing warrants different prices. What's going on is essentially negative discrimination.
smh, Valve
Well if the information posted in here is correct. For using a VPN, buying games from other regions, then gifting them to yourself. But never know, could always be from a random Reddit User too.
Well I did also state Russia in the very same post. As cruel as its to say, Russia to Aussie is the entire world. So forgive me for that Point of View.
No need to direct vitriol at Valve, I just checked all the valve published games which they can set prices for are the same in US and AUS dollars (unless steamerprices.com is lying). The only other control over prices valve has is with indie games as they usually suggest the prices to the dev granted I only checked QUBE and Super Meat Boy but they also have the same AUS and US price. So the prices Valve have control over are the same in AUS and US they can't tell the big publishers what to price their games.
blitzcloud
Banned
What if they add a tax for those countries when gifting?
and yeah, those guys are exploiters, so no sympathy here. They put the games "cheap" (the distributors) so they can actually buy it at a non-gouging price. However, that turns many of them into third party sellers making a cut of every game.
Consumer rights and all that. But I guess I can see why the ToS included the "no class action" thing.
and yeah, those guys are exploiters, so no sympathy here. They put the games "cheap" (the distributors) so they can actually buy it at a non-gouging price. However, that turns many of them into third party sellers making a cut of every game.
Consumer rights and all that. But I guess I can see why the ToS included the "no class action" thing.
Hunter-Zero
Member
Nah, don't think I'll forgive ignorant statements like that, back up with another one like this.
Missed this, and I see it has already been posted. Yeah, Valve is fine at pricing games themselves. I do think they do not not actually give a shit about what pubs do though, they are big enough now to have influence with everyone except EA who are doing their own store.
Good job not reading through the entire thread before jumping the gun. Anyways, I've gifted things to aus within the past couple weeks (from the US) and nothing's come of it.
Sigh. Can a mod change the title to better reflect the situation?
blitzcloud
Banned
well, you have to take into account that instead of having a price that would imply in our EURO/US economy a game costing 200€/$ instead of 50, they try to give some regions a special treatment. Not only valve, but the publishers of the games. Ultimately they want them to be able to buy them.
However, this turned into smartasses being online "retailers", so they use their reduction to circumvent the wealth countries price selling it cheaper... Some even do it themselves with VPN to avoid this middleman that is actively making money out of selling digital goods by exploiting the fair market. I still think VPN is at least honest in the way it doesnt make a CiS country guy wealthy.
You are right, I did not read every single post. But if this is indeed false info, then that is reassuring to hear.
That was actually an apology. I was agreeing that Aussie gets shit compared to most other regions.
Steam has problems, this isn't one of them as long as you stay away from Sites selling keys and VPNs.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Shit move from Valve.
Better yet, let´s be passive aggressive without contributing to the thread.
Better yet, let´s be passive aggressive without contributing to the thread.
You read the posts about how this issue is old and has only ever been linked to people buying over VPN?
whalleywhat
Member
It's funny because you actually think like this.
blitzcloud
Banned
Hell, I bought max payne 3 when it got region locked just a few hours before for CiS countries with a VPN. Why? stupid yet valid reason. zavvi was offering it for 31€+movie. I felt the russian price was fair... and I did the VPN thing myself to avoid giving money to this steam altruist mafia (since they give away so many gifts!). Long story short, game was unusable due to region lock. I contacted steam support, exposed my case, got my money refunded and a small warning to not do it again.
Yeah I think the title needs to be updated so we can avoid another hate wankfest. People are looking for any reason they can to do it and I say let's not help them if we can avoid it. This is still an unconfirmed story and even if it is true there's nothing to say they're completely locking down everyone on this.
Phoenician_Viking
Banned
Yes i did, and still it should not prevent people from buying and gifting even though they are using the globalization benefit that Valve uses. But you do the same thing in many threads. You just throw a passive aggressive, without any contribution to said threads whatsoever.
Funnily enough the games you posted are published by Activision and EA who Valve can't really say anything to, besides I'm sure the Aussie retailers are big enough to tell the publishers that they can't be undercut by digital download stores.
blitzcloud
Banned
So instead of a fair market for everyone it's better to either live in a first world country with a good average income or suck it? Just asking.
The only problem with a fair market strategy that tries to cater every region specifically is that sooner or later, the black market people appear.
I also like how it's coming from a website that advocates purchases though exploitative Russian CD key resellers.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Yep. Nothing good can come from that. I know first hand in my one and only foray into this about 1.5 years ago.
while being strong-armed into a nefarious license agreement is due cause to be vigilant, sub-wordpress blogs with provocative titles sourcing unverified reddit posts aren't quite going get get me reaching for my shotgun.
as far as i'm concerned, the reply i received from steam support a year and some ago (i was requesting for my account to be "unlocked" as i heard a few people had some luck with it) still gives me carte blanche to gift/recieve whatever i want:
as far as i'm concerned, the reply i received from steam support a year and some ago (i was requesting for my account to be "unlocked" as i heard a few people had some luck with it) still gives me carte blanche to gift/recieve whatever i want:
SolsticeZero
Banned
According to almost every post in the thread, yes.
Ya well it seemed like some people were not aware, so sorry.
Sorry me too, I am one of them not reading. Was going through a ton of threads and just popped in to make sure it was a VPN thing. My bad, I need some fugging breakfast!
SolsticeZero
Banned
My bad, didn't mean the attitude. We just have a huge number of people refusing to read in this thread.
Interfectum
Member
"I MUST RAGE AT VALVE!"
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
No, but the internet is.
This is only for mass buyers, who do this in organized fashion. I have few friends who buy games via VPN regularly for themselves, and they did not recieve any warning.
legacyzero
Banned
Valve what the hell is wrong with you lately??
Pardon me if I'm totally wrong on this, but doesn't Germany have stricter censorship than many other countries when it comes to videogames? I know the poster talks about deserving the "uncensored" version of games, but is it legal to purchase those versions in Germany?
If the gifting was a way of getting around a ban, I could see Valve having to crack down on it for legal reasons.
I admit I may be totally off-base and will no doubt be schooled all to hell on this issue.
If the gifting was a way of getting around a ban, I could see Valve having to crack down on it for legal reasons.
I admit I may be totally off-base and will no doubt be schooled all to hell on this issue.