GovtPlates
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Mars' day is 24 hours and 40 minutes long where Venus' is 243 Earth days, which is 5,832 hours, meaning if you built a city nearly anywhere on Venus it would be daytime for fucking ever.
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Venus vs Mars: which planet would you rather have terraformed?
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Yeah, because the atmospheric pressure is 90 times higher and no heat can escape the thick wall of gasses surrounding the planet.
But we're talking about a terraformed Venus, so, that's all quite irrelevant.
We are! So basically your post was a long way to say that the answer is Venus.
I didn't read the OP that way. It seemed it was asking which planet is a better candidate for terraforming now, not 1,000 years from now (why else reference current space-related events?).
We have the technology to terraform Mars right this instant. So my answer to the OP's question is Mars.
There we go. I've been reading some stuff about kickstarting it.. But its something to definitely factor in, for when we decide to move there.
I figure it had to have existed at one point a strong magnetic field, now with the water evidence of flowing water, it would have had to have been a point to where the atmosphere/magnetic field were strong enough to sustain flowing water all around the planet sculpting the terrain for thousands of years.
But it seems that it would be an essential part of the process, if its a serious effort.
Orbis Tabula
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A big rock? But where the hell are we going to find a big rock in outer space? I mean, it would have to be the size of...oh, dear god...the size of Pluto...the pieces are all falling in to place.
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I man as far fetched as that movie "The core" was maybe something could be done with some sort of Radiation or device that could tap the core and heat it, or get it spinning again. Not literally drilling, but using some sort of spectrum of energy to hit the core.
I mean are we to assume that the core of mars is solid non-spinning... thus the weak field?
Hidden One
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Teraforming just doesn't even seem possible.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
Concentrating efforts on Europa or Enceladus would be a lot better than Venus.
titiklabingapat
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Mars has water and ice.
Attempt no landing there.
is that a threat!? Maybe we could land a submarine.... or drones.. Isn't it Frozen up top? Ocean underneath...
Drones to drill holes...
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And radiation! No natural protection against it.
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Gordon Shumway
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Mars because Venus is hot as fuck..
Zeuanimals
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vainglorious
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Mars.
Although Titan/Europa is where it's at.
We'll have space colonies a la Gundam before we have completely terraformed planets/moons tho.
Although Titan/Europa is where it's at.
We'll have space colonies a la Gundam before we have completely terraformed planets/moons tho.
evilromero
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Yeah, because the atmospheric pressure is 90 times higher and no heat can escape the thick wall of gasses surrounding the planet.
But we're talking about a terraformed Venus, so, that's all quite irrelevant.
We are! So basically your post was a long way to say that the answer is Venus.
Oh, so you want to skip the discussion and just have one word answers?
Venus
Mars
Mars
Mars
Venus
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Very compelling.
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Lord Virgin
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Zod was going to do it. But Superman saved us.
This thread is a great read while the Interstellar OST is playing in the background.
I choose both, better yet: terraform every planet we can find. Every country gets its own planet.
Terraforming Venus is a far better idea.
1- It's closer than Mars.
2- It's relative same size / mass than earth. The gravity on Venus is 0.907 x Earth. Compared to Mars 0.377. Which would cause long term health problem to any humans.
Most of Venus massive atmospheric pressure is due to the air density. Assuming we can terraform planets, we could live there in massive floating city above the sulfuruic clouds while we terraform the atmosphere. one we get rid of the massive green gas, the air pressure could return to normal.
but then again, ongoing temperature problems, irregular planetary rotation, and the lack of a magnetospher aren't solved in any ways.
Our best guess, I think, is to start taking care of the only place in the universe that we know and can reach that can sustain human life.
1- It's closer than Mars.
2- It's relative same size / mass than earth. The gravity on Venus is 0.907 x Earth. Compared to Mars 0.377. Which would cause long term health problem to any humans.
Most of Venus massive atmospheric pressure is due to the air density. Assuming we can terraform planets, we could live there in massive floating city above the sulfuruic clouds while we terraform the atmosphere. one we get rid of the massive green gas, the air pressure could return to normal.
but then again, ongoing temperature problems, irregular planetary rotation, and the lack of a magnetospher aren't solved in any ways.
Our best guess, I think, is to start taking care of the only place in the universe that we know and can reach that can sustain human life.
Omegasquash
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Don't forget the near constant volcanic activity. I read somewhere once that it's going to settle eventually, but that's a long way away.
Venus very much matches the classical description of hell.
TheJollyCorner
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Where's the fan club for Uranus?
Tal Shiar Agent
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Venus has comparable gravity and is still geologically.
Yet Mars has a more conducive atmosphere, temperature, and day cycle.
Mars seems to be the most feasible for our first go at terraforming.
Yet Mars has a more conducive atmosphere, temperature, and day cycle.
Mars seems to be the most feasible for our first go at terraforming.
Mars because of Interplanetary Trade
We can actually build a space elevator there because of the lower gravity. This would allow them to easily move things into the lower atmosphere so that they can be picked up and shipped back to earth. We can actually start interplanetary trade.
This means that space technology is actually useful and profitable. Which will snowball towards are Star Trek inspired future!
We can actually build a space elevator there because of the lower gravity. This would allow them to easily move things into the lower atmosphere so that they can be picked up and shipped back to earth. We can actually start interplanetary trade.
This means that space technology is actually useful and profitable. Which will snowball towards are Star Trek inspired future!
we'll just have to dig down and kickstart the core again.
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Vote Mercury: Gotta go fast
Fancy Clown
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If Matt Damon can do it, anyone can
Veritigo_X
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I like the new Mercury option in the poll. I say we shoot for the moon and go for Mercury.
I suspect that long before we begin terraforming any planet, we'll just go live there, sealed in hermetic bubbles from the danger. The obvious solution to Mars' lack of a magnetosphere is to build underground to shield colonists from radiation, rather than attempting to create an atmosphere that's eventually going to escape anyway.
In the long run, it seems more likely that we'll modify ourselves, since that's considerably cheaper in terms of resources and time than flinging comets around the solar system to get the required volatiles and heat needed to terraform a planet like Mars.
So, since I think we're going to live in underground dwellings anyway, I submit Mercury. It's got roughly the same gravity as Mars, has existing volatiles in craters, and actually has a shit ton of material we want that could be mag launched from the surface of Mercury to anywhere else in the system. It's also got massive amounts of free solar power available (about six times as much available as the Earth gets).
In the long run, it seems more likely that we'll modify ourselves, since that's considerably cheaper in terms of resources and time than flinging comets around the solar system to get the required volatiles and heat needed to terraform a planet like Mars.
So, since I think we're going to live in underground dwellings anyway, I submit Mercury. It's got roughly the same gravity as Mars, has existing volatiles in craters, and actually has a shit ton of material we want that could be mag launched from the surface of Mercury to anywhere else in the system. It's also got massive amounts of free solar power available (about six times as much available as the Earth gets).
Omegasquash
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I really think I'd go with Mars. It's in the habitable zone, and it would be easier to put up settlements there than Venus WHILE it was being terraformed.
Less risky, anyway. Something about floating over an air-sea consisting of sulfuric acid sounds like it wouldn't end well at all.
Less risky, anyway. Something about floating over an air-sea consisting of sulfuric acid sounds like it wouldn't end well at all.
Not Spaceghost
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Venus is the best.
I voted Mars, but seeing that Venus seem better - we could rename it Bespin.
80s Bad Guy
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Mercury, of course. Prime Sun-viewing real estate.
PHOENIXZERO
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Venus has way, way too many issues to over come, Mars would be pretty much impossible within any of our life times as it is.
Nobody else is picking up on it so just so you don't think I've gone bonkers it's a 2010 (Arthur C Clarke) reference. Too obscure maybe.
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SpiralZilla
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Mars has a chance of not being swallowed by the sun when it turns into a red giant. Venus has no chance.
Battersea Power Station
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In all likelihood, we'd have to "terraform" our climactically unstable planet first before we think about others.
I feel like this is a pointless.... point? By the time our sun goes into its red giant phase we'll have either gone extinct or have developed a way to travel out of our own solar system. So the red giant phase of our sun will likely have little effect on us.
Arkos
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Nobody ever talks about the radiation. I feel like that's the biggest hurdle to "doing anything" on Mars
Regulus Tera
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why is Mercury even an option
The thing is way too close to the Sun for anyone to survive there unless they are constantly shifting to the dark side. And then you have to deal with the freezing temperatures.
Orbis Tabula
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Mercury should be scrapped for raw materials.
Assuming you could deal with all the asteriods Jupiters attracts and the ass load of radioactivity Jupiter shits out.
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