Chance Hale
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Video: Russian compares Watch_Dogs Max Settings vs GTA IV Max Settings
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It's all in the wind man, the wind!
flipswitch
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I wouldn't say GTAIV/V are technically superior than WD. Artistically I can agree though.
Crazy_Sunshine
Banned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VcCqfuam-tc&feature=youtu.be
Here's the other video from the same guy.
@0:27-1:02 Really blew me away. It more or less shocked me to see something like that in a game that was released in 2008 and not present in a game that was released in 2014
Edit: Fixed. I hope
Thank you for letting me know.
Here's the other video from the same guy.
@0:27-1:02 Really blew me away. It more or less shocked me to see something like that in a game that was released in 2008 and not present in a game that was released in 2014
Edit: Fixed. I hope
Thank you for letting me know.
Pegasus Actual
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GTA 4 was DA SHIT tho!
Angelus Errare
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512MB
three_muffins
Gold Member
I liked GTA IV a lot. It might not cater to your taste, but that does not make the game a bad one (aka shit).
Also don't agree, i enjoyed the game. It wasn't the best GTA game but it was lots of fun.
Neuromancer
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GTAIV definitely looks better, and clearly they put more effort into certain aspects of the game, but I defy Watch Dogs to have a worse story, worse controls and worse gunplay. Graphics aren't everything.
Yeah honestly this could be a "talk shit on Ubisoft" thread, but to me it's a showcase of why Rockstar is at the top when it comes to open world game creation. And honestly this showcase of what hundreds of people and hundreds of millions of dollars at Ubisoft can create and is bested by Rockstars 6 year old effort, it really shines a new light on Rockstar and GTA IV for me. I think the boringness of being back in Liberty City after having the amazing world of San Andreas tainted my ability to really immerse myself in the GTA world in IV. I enjoyed V a LOT more based on its varied environments.
It also makes me appreciate the first person view mods for GTA as well. Not because I want to play the game from a first person view, but because I want to have the OPTION of viewing the world as closely as possible by being in the viewpoint of my character's eyes. Lots of jokes are missed by the pulled out third person view. Magazine cover names, beer names at the bar, etc. The level of detail screams for a first person view option. They already have that non-playable cinematic camera angle, why not add an equally non-playable FPS view just for the immersion factor?
Objectively Bad Opinion
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this isn't an everything thread btw
That 68m was prior to the delay. Not that they necessarily could have spent a ton more. Also, another poster said they weren't sure if this included marketing?
At first I was about to "wut?" then I saw the video of WD/GTA/SD to refresh my memory.
You are right, SD probably does look and run better.
And of course, SD overall gameplay is simply better due to better animation, melee combat, and sadly, even gunplay. Pretty good for a "clone".
So...Where is that SD2 rumor yo? =(
Derpcrawler
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Broken link.
Neuromancer
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If you feel my post was off topic feel free to PM a mod and ask them to delete it.
I'm really sad that SD didn't get more love as far as sales. It deserved better. Fantastic game, great graphics, wonderful setting and immersion factor.
You would think 5 years of technological increases, new consoles to raise the lowest common denominator, and inflation would have at least covered the gap.
The one counter-argument is both of these games were released on the Xbox 360 and PS3.
Not to mention the superb gameplay of Sleeping Dogs.
Based on the video, it's not even pushing the boundaries of last gen tech if GTA IV did better, so I don't see any reason why Wii-U version wouldn't be totally doable and on track to release.
Escalation
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Those details have always made the difference between Rockstar and the rest.
Yoda
Member
Watch_Dogs threads seem to be getting an abnormal amount of moderation all of the sudden.
On topic I think given the amount of platforms this game is being developed for + new IP + Ubisoft (they will never commit to a game as much as Rockstar) is why this game will be of lower quality than GTA.
Crimsonclaw111
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Sleeping Dogs sees lots of sales every time it goes on sale though.
Probably, don't see why not if the PS360 can run it.
The graphic isn't even on the level of Second Son IQ.
Objectively Bad Opinion
Member
Sleeping Dogs did look really nice and the performance was pretty fantastic too. The AO was horrible though. And ground textures aren't as nice as WD.
I loathed the gameplay of sleeping dogs. Quit the game after the wedding scene because I just hated playing it. The gunplay sucked, the melee combat felt off, the driving.... jesus. I still cringe whenever I think about those racing missions. But being honest, I have never enjoyed most "city" open world games.
GTA 4 and 5 were the only times I ever though a game wasted my time. Only bought 5 because I adored RDR and though R* learned from it.
Only city open world game I enjoyed was Saints Row 3. Maybe the infamous games, but I wouldn't consider them in the same space as the other games.
Askherserenity
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No idea why people are comparing both games overall. Clearly just a detail/graphics comparison video.
You know what I mean. A publisher decides the fate of a franchise within the first 3 months of sales at $60. Not when the game is $5 during the most recent Steam sale.
GTAV seemed to be going much much more at once. that would have been at the expense of certain effects.
CassidyIzABeast
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Whole lot of "but fun is what matters" posts in a graphics thread
Pops Maellard
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I love Sleeping Dogs and it looks and runs great, but Watch Dogs looks better, plays better and at least for the four hours I've played has more interesting story beats. That said, Sleeping Dogs didn't have hundreds of people working on it.
Hacking my way downtown.
I wonder if Watchdog could be modded better, but still, having problems with a game from 5 years ago is kinda lame.
I wonder if Watchdog could be modded better, but still, having problems with a game from 5 years ago is kinda lame.
bargeparty
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I just want to say something in regards to the npc collisons. I've definitely run into people on the street while running. I even knocked into some lady, who stumbled back and dropped her two shopping bags. Not sure if I've knocked anyone over though.
Net_Wrecker
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Tech advancement doesn't really mean much here aside from the lighting which is just strange. Until we get some industry wide open world simulation middleware, and every game can start with the same base amount of detail, it's all about priorities. Rockstar placed a huge value on things like damage modeling and physics (the latter to the determent of character fluidity), while Ubi had to focus on getting their hacks and interaction points to work correctly in conjunction with the rest of the game. Seems like a good trade off considering they're releasing on 5 platforms and it's the first title in the franchise. Details like what's in the video can come later when the franchise is proven and money can be thrown at it with reckless abandon.
Are you saying the PC version of Watch Dogs looks better than the PC version of Sleeping Dogs? Or are you comparing a game that was only available on last gen consoles with a game that has been released on current gen consoles?
Auto-Reply
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A lot of people here (myself included) tend to forget how extreme Rockstar is when it comes to attention of detail in their GTA games.
You can look at a game and say "Oh the lighting is much better than in GTA(4)" or "The characters have way more polygons, looks better than GTA"...but if you look closely again every other open world game doesn't do half the stuff that GTA is doing when it comes to details, i hope we see the same with the next GTA game.
You can look at a game and say "Oh the lighting is much better than in GTA(4)" or "The characters have way more polygons, looks better than GTA"...but if you look closely again every other open world game doesn't do half the stuff that GTA is doing when it comes to details, i hope we see the same with the next GTA game.
MrTroubleMaker
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Wow that's really interesting and a little disappointing as well.
kingdoug87
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Hmm with that bonus vid, the uploader complains that the car doesnt start up realistically in Watch Dogs but complains that one bullet in someone's chest kills them realistically.
But the water not moving when shooting it is very disappointing, that's my favourite thing to do in any game.
But the water not moving when shooting it is very disappointing, that's my favourite thing to do in any game.
BladeoftheImmortal
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I'll watch it after class.
If you watched the video, you'd notice that the pedestrian gets shot in the shoulder, which is not something that instantly kills people. He also reacts by covering up the side that just got shot instinctively. That's far more realistic to me.
Pops Maellard
Member
I'm saying the PC version of Watch Dogs looks better than the PC version of Sleeping Dogs. You do have a reasonable point though; it seems unfair to (at least visually) compare a last gen game to a current gen game with last gen versions.
BurnOutBrighter
Banned
Well the water in Watch Dogs is better at least...
It was always amusing how crashing a car into water in GTAIV was like throwing a stone into a pool of syrup.
It was always amusing how crashing a car into water in GTAIV was like throwing a stone into a pool of syrup.
I don't see it as disappointing as much as I see it as a reflection of just how brilliant and underrated Rockstar's open world design is and how meticulously detailed their worlds are. Ubisoft's less experienced and smaller open world team wasn't able to produce the details that Rockstar produced with GTAIV. Is that really all that surprising when you consider how many years Rockstar has had to perfect their craft in this specific genre?
This is their bread and butter. They SHOULD be the far superior open world development studio.
Eleventy_Million
Banned
Rockstar is the king confirmed.
C'mon Ubisoft. Please up your game for WD2.
C'mon Ubisoft. Please up your game for WD2.
akachan ningen
Member
That's awful. My favorite part is at 2:50, when he's rubbing the car against the wall, the window on the opposite side just explodes.
BladeoftheImmortal
Member
Ubisoft's been making open worlds since assassin's creed.