old manatee
Banned
"You gonna take me to cussing jail now? Fuck you"
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Walmart (Prevention Loss), the schadenfreude is delicious!
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Westbahnhof
Banned
Again, because they are potential criminals.
I don't see why checking bags in general is a problem.
Do you complain when someone on the train asks you for your ticket? When you are asked for ID when buying alcohol?
Why should the company blindly trust you?
old manatee
Banned
I don't shop anywhere where I'm treated like a potential criminal. Check my bag once and I never come back.
uncledonnie
Banned
Been in this situation more than once at Walmart and it played out pretty much exactly the same way. To the people saying "no one wants to do bag checks", that certainly is not my experience. There are plenty of people that enjoy exercising some perceived power or authority over others.
Lucky Seven
Banned
I worked loss prevention at a Ross, and from what I hear (I work at Walmart) it's almost the same as Ross. He made a rookie mistake by confronting a customer for shoplifting. Also, isn't he supposed to be in uniform?... EDIT: No they are they not.
Macy's I hear is a fucking shitshow compared to this and rife with racial profiling. The fact they can physically detain people is equally ridiculous.
Macy's I hear is a fucking shitshow compared to this and rife with racial profiling. The fact they can physically detain people is equally ridiculous.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
I worked there about 10 years ago as well. At the time, they had actually announced that they would be going after shoplifters less, and focus more on employee thedt as that was actually the main source of shrinkage.
I definitely saw it a lot. There weren't cameras on the truck trailers, or bathrooms, or stash shit outside after a manager opened the back door so people could get cardboard bales taken outside.
My favorite was that three or four cashier's got busted price matching DVDs down to a $1 a piece for each other. Super fucking stupid because managers print a list of all price matched items for the day at the end of the night. They had them all arrested. Was pretty funny, 'cause after the first one was arrested at the store, they decided to call the others and tell them they could either come in now and be arrested, or the cops would come to their houses. Goofy shit.
When I worked at Walmart, the loss prevention guy wore normal clothes and walked the store. They wanted him to fit in like a normal customer. He also confronted people all the time, but not like this. He was a pretty chill dude. He and a manager would just approach the customer, ask them to the back, and call the cops. If anyone ran, there was no chasing them or anything. Just let them go so no one got hurt.
old manatee
Banned
My sister and her friend tried to shoplift bathing suits from Macy's when they were like 15, and two men and a woman who worked for Macy's brought the girls to a little room and made them strip down to their underwear to verify that they didn't have anything else. These weren't cops or anything, they were just people that worked at Macy's who thought they had that kind of authority. When my dad showed up he went fucking apeshit and shamed all of the employees and dragged the girls out before the cops could come and arrest them for shoplifting.
GameAddict411
Member
This guy looks like a promising future cop. Policing Walmart by harassing people will not be enough for him at some point.
Hari Seldon
Member
Yeah same, although luckily I don't do much physical shopping anymore anyway. I once had a Walmart dude try and open my sealed Pharmacy bag. Like dude, that is illegal lol. I started just walking past them, I'm not waiting in a queue to leave a store unless it is Sams Club where I signed a contract to let them.
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
Yup. LOL Rekt.
My local Walmarts don't have receipt checkers. Only place I see them is Best Buy, and they will only check your receipt if you are leaving with items from somewhere other than the main registers (ie, Customer Service for an online pick-up, a Cellphone you bought from the mobile area of the store, ect)
OP didn't link to the original video, which is in the sidebar of the one he linked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cf6CZegzYg8
That has 800k+ views
Westbahnhof
Banned
Better not go shopping in (many stores in) Germany then.
Explain why this is worse than asking for ID.
Or would that also drive you away as a customer?
I mean, they obviously assume you might try to purchase something which would be illegal.
timrannosaurus
Neo Member
The cringe in this thread is strong. Just seems like a really shitty mistake a kid made, he's trying to do his job.
Azure Dream
Member
"Keep cussing, see where that gets you." (Veiled threat about getting her arrested for disorderly conduct or some other technicality after he wasted her time and tried to embarrass her.)
I love that "Ooh, you gonna take me to Cussin' Jail" response.
Aww, poor "kid". How rude of her, after he didn't try to embarrass her- oh, he did? Well, after he apologized for his mistake- Oh, he didn't? He just threatened her more? Huh. Poor "kid".
I love that "Ooh, you gonna take me to Cussin' Jail" response.
Aww, poor "kid". How rude of her, after he didn't try to embarrass her- oh, he did? Well, after he apologized for his mistake- Oh, he didn't? He just threatened her more? Huh. Poor "kid".
Disheveled_Zen
Member
Asking for an ID is more for covering the store so they make sure they are not selling alcohol to anyone underage. They aren't accusing you of anything just covering their ass.
Putting your hands on someones cart, blocking their means of leaving the store, and asking to see their receipt before they leave is basically saying "hey we think you stole something, now prove you didn't" It doesn't equate out to "are you old enough to buy this"
AlimNassor
Banned
AP at Walmart dont wear uniforms. Guy is fired either way. Making a bad stop is an instant termination. You cant just suspect someone is stealing and stop them. You have to be 100% certain that person stole an item.
Brian Griffin
Member
Some people have mentioned signs warning of bag searches and receipt checks but are those legally binding? AFAIK places like Costco can require that you submit to receipt checks because you agree to it when you sign the membership contract, but any other place you can just walk out unless they get the police involved and press charges for shoplifting.
AlimNassor
Banned
Theres a difference between looking at a receipt and digging through bags. A door greeter can ask to see your receipt. Theres nothing wrong with them asking for it. Why make things harder? Blame the people shop lifting.
old manatee
Banned
Everyone makes mistakes but maybe he should have apologized after he tried to embarrass her? Not a good look flat out accusing someone of stealing and being 100% wrong.
AlimNassor
Banned
A mistake that cost him his job. You can't do that shit as AP. They have extensive training and drill it into their skulls a single mistake=termination. They dont make quotas for this shit. Theres no excuse for his behavior. Guy deserves to be term'd.
AP is plainsclothes at Walmart
old manatee
Banned
I don't think that an altercation with a tiny, purple-faced fascist should be built into every transaction by design. When stores employ these methods of loss prevention I just shop online instead.
NYR
Member
Um. NO. There is a way to be professional and that ass hat was hardly that, he embarrassed himself and the organization he was hired to represent. Don't reward horrible customer service and just write it off as "just doing their job". He can go pick up garbage if he doesn't want to deal with people.
Miles Quaritch
Member
Teaching critical thinking skills isn't high on the curriculum in the US huh?
Hell, teaching common sense doesn't seem to be on their either...
Hell, teaching common sense doesn't seem to be on their either...
WeirdoStalkerJr
Member
I work as a manager at Walmart,dude is so fired. This is a major fuck up. You have to be 100% SURE that they stole something! Normally it would be a written up, but since this was recorded and is now going viral. Yea, dudes toast. I would have to fire him.
Will we get some justice tho? I feel like these things always lose steam after a while. Tmartin is probably still out of jail despite manipulating his own gambling ring, Cambodian n-word dbag is getting his 97 Altima waxed today and this guy will probably just scoop up a new role at JCPenney loss prevention.
biggersmaller
Banned
I was falsely stopped for shoplifting at a Menards by someone in plain clothes in the parking lot (think Home Depot). I didn't go ballistic like this woman. Yeah it was embarrassing, but I figured she was just doing her job.
I'm shocked to hear one false stop and your terminated is a rule. I mean, eventually someone will make a mistake. Why would anyone take this gig?
I'm shocked to hear one false stop and your terminated is a rule. I mean, eventually someone will make a mistake. Why would anyone take this gig?
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Cringe?
Griffin McElroy knows how powerless the loss prevention people really are.
https://youtu.be/QBC6xPvkBF8
https://youtu.be/QBC6xPvkBF8
Lucky Seven
Banned
Except he's told before he even starts his job on the floor to never be in these situations. The situation is much bigger than "just a really shitty mistake". It's not an easy mistake to make.
Morons exist across the globe, they are not limited to the USA.
Westbahnhof
Banned
You are assuming a whole lot.
The person says "can ypu please open your bag", you do, you are thanked, you leave.
It's not the dystopian hellhole you seem to imagine.
I am talking about having to open your bag as a routine thing at the checkout, not about what happened in the video.
In both cases, ID and bag opening, it's a minor inconvenience for everyone, one that helps the store because some individuals cannot be trusted.
minor effort
Banned
I almost reflexively show my receipt to the door people at big box stores out of courtesy; most of them are just doing their job.
But what compels me from just walking away if they start making unfounded accusations or ask me to come with them into a private room? They're not law enforcement.
But what compels me from just walking away if they start making unfounded accusations or ask me to come with them into a private room? They're not law enforcement.
It's $18.50. Throw them both in jail.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lion-Guard-Jumbo-Plush-Kion/47389739
Wait, this may be the jumbo size. ��
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Lion-Guard-Jumbo-Plush-Kion/47389739
Wait, this may be the jumbo size. ��
As someone who, back when I lived in Florida, was constantly shadowed by loss prevention and yet has never shoplifted a goddamned thing in my entire life: I hate interacting with these people.
I don't begrudge them for taking the job, times are tough and I get it. But y'all don't have to treat me like a thief every time I step into the damned store. Out of the bigger chains, Publix is the worst in this regard.
I don't begrudge them for taking the job, times are tough and I get it. But y'all don't have to treat me like a thief every time I step into the damned store. Out of the bigger chains, Publix is the worst in this regard.
cyberheater
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He could have apologized.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
That's not it. It shows up as $15 on their site, but it's out of stock.
There is what appears to be a small yellow sticker on the front bottom left of the packaging in the video. My guess is that it is a clearance sticker that said the price she was saying.
Fuck off with this bullshit. Like people all over the world don't let the smallest amount of power go to their head.
cyberheater
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Yeah. The main speaker is human garbage. Fuck people who think like this walking trash.
lifeexpectancy
Member
Fairly certain this is a misconception as it isnt universal. It depends on the state and the store. In some places they actually can legally detain you via "reasonable measures". Basically they cant manhandle you or throw you to the ground, but IIRC there wasa recent incident with a teenage girl where tbey tried to detain her with minimal physical intervention (still some mind you) and were within their legal grounds to do so. Then the girl assaulted them, which gave them the authority to *forcibly* detain her or something.
The idea that you are home free if you make it out of the store is a common misconception, I think. I am not 100% sure though.
OT: This guy was a real tool and will likely lose his job.
Flying Toaster
Member
It does depend but the majority of states allow you to leave. Know your laws and fuck walmart.
Two life rules everyone should live by.
Someone getting this upset at a comedy podcast. Lord.
Also, this dude is totally getting his name blasted all over Facebook, dude is going to be fucked from jobs for a good while. Delicious.
The Jackdog
Member
this shit can fuck riiiight off.
Everyone that comes in is a potential criminal?
do you walk around public spaces going from cover to cover cause everyone is a potential murderer?
Glass Shark
Banned
i listen to this clip like once a month
GuitarAtomik
Member
That part got me too lol. The line delivery is perfection.
Westbahnhof
Banned
Why do you try to go to some logical extreme?
Explain why checking ID is reasonable, and looking into a bag for 2 seconds isn't.
Oh, and to answer your two questions:
Yes. No.