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Leunam

Member
This is probably closer to how big other daemon Primarchs are. Magnus was always a giant so his ascension to Daemonhood, not to mention his own magic, only amplified that.

Missed opportunity not having the censers at his sides billowing smoke if that is indeed what they are.
 

Maledict

Member
I'm so old I still think of Mortarion as his old, original design - basically the Reaper, glad in a black robe with a scythe.

That model looks like it could be good, but the paint job makes it so busy it's hard to see detail. Hopefully more of an issue with the photo more than anything else.
 
Some rules changes coming:
Matched Play Updates Coming in Chapter Approved

Chapter Approved is coming soon and with it, a host of changes designed to make your games more fun. With tournament season fast approaching, we’ve decided to release some of the new rules from Chapter Approved early in the interest of making sure that your matched play games are as fun and as balanced as possible. These include further changes to Flyers, a massive universal bonus to Troops units in every army and new rules about who gets the first turn of a game. We spoke to the Design team about what’s new:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVxZ4vEjn9k

New Matched Play Rules

We are always eager to listen to the Warhammer 40,000 community and improve the game based on the feedback you provide, and one of the areas we get the most correspondence about is matched play. The joy of Chapter Approved is that, as we see certain themes emerge about rules that might not be working properly, we can take steps to address them. To this effect, Chapter Approved introduces several new matched play rules, all of which are designed to help redress certain imbalances or exploits within the rules that you tell us are leading to games that are not as fun as they could be. Here you can see one such example:

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As you may recall, we have already amended the Instant Death rule in Warhammer 40,000 to prevent Flyer-only armies from dominating matched play games. This was met with a positive response, but the feedback we have received since suggests that it did not go far enough. Boots on the Ground helps to redress this – aircraft are soaring so high and so fast that they cannot hold objectives; their role is to support the warriors and vehicles on the ground as they do the bloody work of capturing and controlling territory.

New Detachment Rules

Since Warhammer 40,000: Dark Imperium was launched, we have released several codexes, but there are still plenty of Factions – Orks, Drukhari, Necrons etc. – that don’t yet have a codex of their own. Chapter Approved gives these players a sneak peek of what many of these factions can expect when their codex is released (we are hard on work to get that done as quickly as we can), but one of the things we wanted to do was give everyone access to ‘objective secured’ right away:

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As you can see, this is an ability that rewards you for grouping your warriors into faction-specific detachments by giving Troops units the ability to control objective markers even when outnumbered by the enemy. As you can imagine, it gives these units a real edge, and helps to ensure your line troops are not at a disadvantage compared to those factions that are lucky enough to have a codex already.

New Matched Play Missions

A great mission is critical to a great game of Warhammer 40,000, and Chapter Approved includes a dozen brand new matched play missions for you to test your skills. One of the things we’ve had the most feedback about is about which player gets the first turn in these missions. Barring a sneaky Seize the Initiative roll, the current feeling is that the present method is a bit too reliable, and some players are developing armies and strategies to exploit this. We’ve taken this feedback on board and changed how you determine who gets the first turn in every one of the new matched play missions presented in Chapter Approved:

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This change ensures that in these new missions, the first turn is never guaranteed; whilst you can construct an elite army to stack the odds a little in your favour, it still all comes down to a roll-off, so you’ll have to build an army and deploy it accordingly. If you prefer the original method though, worry not! These new missions do not replace the matched play missions in the Warhammer 40,000 rulebook, they supplement them, allowing you to choose the style of mission rules you enjoy playing the most.

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These rules will be in place at Blood & Glory and at the NOVA Open, as well as several other competitive events around the world.
https://www.warhammer-community.com...-in-chapter-approved-aug-9gw-homepage-post-1/
 

EYEL1NER

Member
Hopefully someone gets that Mortarion painted up in a bunch of black and other dark colors. I know that Nurgle = Green, but I'm not feeling the greens and other light colors at all on him.
 
Hopefully someone gets that Mortarion painted up in a bunch of black and other dark colors. I know that Nurgle = Green, but I'm not feeling the greens and other light colors at all on him.

Nothing about the paint scheme draws you to the face. It's lost in all the other detail. He simply looks like a bigger nurgle marine, which is unfitting for a primarch! He should stand out more. I would have liked a new take on his old grim reaper look. I always imagined him as lithe and deadly. This guy looks thick and slow, which I guess goes along better with the game rules of being tougher to kill.
 

Showaddy

Member
Yeah just saw GW's official Mortarion reveal on Youtube, that pic really doesn't do it justice. And funnily enough looks a lot better with a darker colour scheme.
 

Mikeside

Member
I was starting to be tempted to switch my Death Guard to a Thousand Sons force, but those new models look gorgeous and this upgrade to Plague Marines doesn't look too shabby either.
 

Ohnonono

Member
I was starting to be tempted to switch my Death Guard to a Thousand Sons force, but those new models look gorgeous and this upgrade to Plague Marines doesn't look too shabby either.

That new Datasheet is making me feel... things.

Gonna give me a reason to buy the new multipart kit for options.
 

Mikeside

Member
That new Datasheet is making me feel... things.

Gonna give me a reason to buy the new multipart kit for options.

To be honest, I feel like an idiot buying the starter box now I've seen the multipart Hellblasters and Intercessors & now looking at what these multipart Plague Marines are gonna have in the boxes.

Oh well, more plastic crack I guess!
 

Ohnonono

Member
To be honest, I feel like an idiot buying the starter box now I've seen the multipart Hellblasters and Intercessors & now looking at what these multipart Plague Marines are gonna have in the boxes.

Oh well, more plastic crack I guess!

Just a reason for the swarm to grow!
 
I love the bloat flies around him. Great touch. He looks much better in the video thanks to rotation they did.

I wonder which chaos faction will be next for a full makeover? Loving what GW has been doing lately.
 

Leunam

Member
It's gotta be noise marines. We're probably getting a plastic Typhus (god I hope so) so a big Slaanesh reveal could be Fulgrim, plastic Lucius, and plastic Noise Marines.

Maybe call the different factions of noise marines Symohonium, an analog to plague Marines Vectorums.
 

Ohnonono

Member
It's gotta be noise marines. We're probably getting a plastic Typhus (god I hope so) so a big Slaanesh reveal could be Fulgrim, plastic Lucius, and plastic Noise Marines.

I would think this is how it will go for a while, with primarch releases dictating small and large army updates.

It makes sense. Horus Heresy is their strongest narrative and basically has been advertising these models for a long time. Fulgrim will sell some damn models.
 

Ohnonono

Member
I'm more interested in Fulgrim! In keeping with the current line of reimagining the chaos primarchs, I wonder if he'll lose his 4 arms, wings, and serpentine lower body.

I can't imagine they would alter it that much. I would hope not anyway. They have books written very recently that depict him that way. The intro to Dark Imperium talks about his Demon form and that is 8th edition. Its GW though so WHO KNOWS?!
 

Mikeside

Member
tbh I'd quite like to see them expand out further than just SM and CSM - give us some new Dark Eldar and Tyranids to drool over!


Or just total fanservice to me and let's follow up all the cool nurgley shit with some super dark Blood Angels stuff
 
I can't imagine they would alter it that much. I would hope not anyway. They have books written very recently that depict him that way. The intro to Dark Imperium talks about his Demon form and that is 8th edition. Its GW though so WHO KNOWS?!

This is reassuring news. Thanks for the info.

I think a tooled up model in the same vein as Mortarion and Magnus based on the old aesthetic has great potential. Gotta give him 4 wings too!
 

Ohnonono

Member
This is reassuring news. Thanks for the info.

I think a tooled up model in the same vein as Mortarion and Magnus based on the old aesthetic has great potential. Gotta give him 4 wings too!

Totally agree. Also he needs to be big. They are all big, but Fulgrims crazy snake body with 4 arms and 4 wings should be massive.
 
tbh I'd quite like to see them expand out further than just SM and CSM - give us some new Dark Eldar and Tyranids to drool over!


Or just total fanservice to me and let's follow up all the cool nurgley shit with some super dark Blood Angels stuff

The tyranid range is already pretty amazing. I would put it put there as one of the very best and most unique armis that GW makes. There are so many great models, both large and small, with near infinite possibilities for conversions with every set and creature type. If anything, I think other armies need to catch up to where tyranids currently stand!

Except space marines... I mean, goddamn. Their cup runneth over!
 

Tacitus_

Member
Nothing about the paint scheme draws you to the face. It's lost in all the other detail. He simply looks like a bigger nurgle marine, which is unfitting for a primarch! He should stand out more. I would have liked a new take on his old grim reaper look. I always imagined him as lithe and deadly. This guy looks thick and slow, which I guess goes along better with the game rules of being tougher to kill.

He's always been described as wearing thick armour and tanking damage. When the Khan duelled him, all the hits he got just carved plates of armour off. Corvus and Kurze are lithe if you want that sort of primarch.
 
He's always been described as wearing thick armour and tanking damage. When the Khan duelled him, all the hits he got just carved plates of armour off. Corvus and Kurze are lithe if you want that sort of primarch.

All that still falls under this new, revised incarnation.

This was my original introduction to the model, from the old epic days.

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Tacitus_

Member
All that still falls under this new, revised incarnation.

This was my original introduction to the model, from the old epic days.

mortarion.jpg

And Magnus looked like this back then
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Are you that guy who wanted Magnus to have his OG model as well? I can't remember who wanted it.

Mortarion has been looking like this for a while now:
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I am driving myself crazy painting back and forth. The edges of this armor where the trim meets the base/flat part....should it be color of trim or base that it goes down to? I can't get it a single color without bleeding or nipping the other, and the perfectionist in me is being driven mad.

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I play/collect Space Wolves, Orks and Tau, and I'm so jealous of these factions getting their primarchs. They're wonderful models. I really hope Orks get an equivalent at some point, it feels like forever since we got anything new and it's about time Ghaz got a power up.

I am driving myself crazy painting back and forth. The edges of this armor where the trim meets the base/flat part....should it be color of trim or base that it goes down to? I can't get it a single color without bleeding or nipping the other, and the perfectionist in me is being driven mad.

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It should be the colour of the trim in my opinion, and in my experience with painting knights I never got that anywhere near close to perfect, but adding a recess shade between the two colours really helps to take away from that imperfection.
 
I was thinking of a shade to blend them, but my other color is white. When I used it on the white, it stuck out like a sore thumb. Maybe I just need to be way more careful where I get it.

I just put all my armor in paint eater. Gonna try one more time...
 

manfestival

Member
Oh great, so there is a general thread for the best sci-fi-fantasy universe on GAF!

Was wondering why I had never looked it up before.

Also, would like some suggestions on novels for Warhammer 40K, have most of the Ciaphas Cain series and Gaunt's Ghost series (gonna get the rest of the books and complete those), the Eisenhorn Omnibus (still not read but plan to) but looking for other suggested books that people would recommend as good?
Preferably Imperial focused but dirty xenos' can be fun to read about too.
No Chaos allowed however, fuck those traitors.
They just released the paperback of red tithe. That so far is one of my favorite reads. Also brothers of the snake is good too. Currently reading dark imperium and like 60% of the way through but I probably wouldn't recommend reading that
 
I'm really disappointed in the fact codex are selling for $40 a pop. I have every armies codex from 2nd - 4th edition. Those days are long gone now. I was hoping that GW would bring them back to a more reasonable price point so I could buy them all again :(
 

Leunam

Member
Are the new books out? Was thinking about grabbing the Chaos book so I can ally some Word Bearers with my Weeping Legion Vectorum.
 
The new roleplaying game was announced.
http://www.ulisses-us.com/wrath-glory/

http://www.ulisses-us.com/warhammer-40000-roleplay-to-be-developed-by-ulisses-north-america/
LAS VEGAS, NV – AUGUST 11, 2017 – US game publisher Ulisses North America announced today it has been granted the publishing rights to the Warhammer 40,000 Roleplay product line from UK miniatures company Games Workshop. Warhammer 40,000 Roleplay is the RPG product line associated with Games Workshop’s highly successful Warhammer 40,000 tabletop miniatures game.
“Acquiring the Warhammer 40,000 Roleplay game is a tremendous step forward for Ulisses North America,” says UNA Studio Director Timothy Brown, “one that boldly complements our existing The Dark Eye, Torg Eternity, and Fading Suns roleplaying games. It underscores our commitment to quality RPG game worlds and products going forward. Warhammer 40,000 is a personal favorite of mine, one I’ve followed from its beginnings, and for me, to carry it forward as its universe further evolves, is fan-boyishly exciting.”
Ross Watson, who will be taking the role of Product Line Developer for Ulisses North America, says, “I’m incredibly excited to be helming Warhammer 40,000 Roleplay for Ulisses North America. This is a fantastic opportunity to re-visit a setting I know and care about a great deal. I’m honored to be leading the charge with this game, and it is thrilling to design an RPG to bring people into the grim darkness of the far future.”
“Being entrusted by Games Workshop to develop the new Warhammer 40,000 RPG is a tremendous honor for us,” says UNA CEO Markus Plötz. “I have been dreaming of this opportunity since the day I picked up the original Rogue Trader rule book. Combining the knowledge and ability of Ross Watson as the lead designer, Ulisses’ experience in publishing high quality RPGs, and the phenomenal Warhammer 40,000 universe can only result in a premium game. We want to make this the game the fans have always been looking for.”
 

HariKari

Member
Q: What are the first Wrath & Glory products?
A: The game line begins with one core rulebook that contains everything you need to get started in the grim darkness of the far future.

Made me chuckle for some reason.
 

EYEL1NER

Member
Like D&D presumably.

Interesting tid-bit from their FAQ I just noticed:



So I guess the Fantasy Flight games will be available through there? That's pretty damn cool.
That is definitely cool, especially if they aren't PDF-only and DriveThru does print-on-demand. My RPG experience is EXTREMELY limited, but I really wanted to play Only War (even more after reading the both the Ciaphas Cain and GG series; who DOESN'T wanna be a commisar?) and Deathwatch (RPing a Space Wolf). When FFG lost the license, prices on some of the books that were older or books that were newer but had less copies printed went way up.
I've been wanting to order a certain RPG book and expansion from DriveThruRPG for almost two years, along with a BattleCON promo from DriveThruCards, so if I can get past FFG 40K RPGs from there too, I'll finally pull the trigger.
 
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