Camper Van Beethoven
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Taker is probably the most overrated wrestler of all time. He had countless shit matches. The fact he got good at the end when he only worked a handful of times a year doesnt excuse the years of shit.
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Was Undertaker the all-time greatest striker in WWF/WWE?
- Thread starter MrOogieBoogie
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I don't think Taker is in the top 10 of all time, but he got good long before the end. At first he was all gimmick, but then as the Bikertaker he really picked up and had some great matches. He was likely good even before that but he was usually stuck with awful workers.
Camper Van Beethoven
Banned
The underseller period is the worst by far. He was absolutely repulsive in that era.
He was only good from about 2006 or so. Basically the less you see him. Taker on PPV every month was just death. He had far more shit matches than good.
First Brock series is on 02, so you are about 4 years off. He was having good to great matches in the late 90s as well.
same. do they not know it's fucking fake?
If this is meant in general, I just really enjoy sweaty men in sparkly hot pants play-fighting. If this is about the IWC and WWE being mainstream then I only truly enjoy matches from Titanes in El Ring or the first UWF before Tiger Mask quit wearing the mask.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
It's not fake. It's scripted.
I hope you don't enjoy movies or TV shows or else you'd be a huge hypocrite.
Please take your poverty drive-by argument out of this thread, thanks.
DyslexicAlucard
Member
I'm in the camp that "Dude legitimately hitting other dude" isn't impressive. Although, back in the day Mick Foley said he'd prefer an opponent actually hitting him to make it look good (ala Vader) than someone not hitting him and it looking really shitty. But that's Mick, and we all know how he felt re: self-preservation. 
I agree with Bret Hart the most. The most impressive part of his career is that he never injured anyone else. It still sours me to this day that he was taken out of wrestling by a no-talent, flash-in-the-pan hack like Bill Goldberg. It's easy to make something like the Spear look "impressive" when you're just legitimately fucking the other guy up.
This one got me. It's so damn true,
I agree with Bret Hart the most. The most impressive part of his career is that he never injured anyone else. It still sours me to this day that he was taken out of wrestling by a no-talent, flash-in-the-pan hack like Bill Goldberg. It's easy to make something like the Spear look "impressive" when you're just legitimately fucking the other guy up.
This one got me. It's so damn true,
Camper Van Beethoven
Banned
The brock series was good. That doesnt mean the entire period was good. For every brock match you got half a dozen shit matches.
Wrestling is fake and anyone who pretends it isnt is seriously messed up.
Scripted means its fake. Game of Thrones is scripted and fake and so is wrestling.
Its pretty hard to understand.
New Japan, thats easy.
Are you telling me this is entertainment, but the hazards are real?
DyslexicAlucard
Member
I think this does a decent job: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYvMOf3hsGA
It's not about it being a "real" contest, any more than it's about people really dying in Game of Thrones. It's a long-running show where you get to know and become attached to characters over years. It also has an impressive athletic and performance component.
And if you're really into it, there's the meta analysis of the business itself, where you think about and judge who's getting "pushed," who should get pushed, and the quality of the decisions made behind the scenes.
I get why it's not for everyone, but people being elitist about it expose themselves for being tryhard more than anything else, IMO.
funkystudent
Member
How are we qualifiing best striker in wrestling?
Person who throws the most realistic fake punches or person who throws the most real punches?
Person who throws the most realistic fake punches or person who throws the most real punches?
I hear rumors that bodies have been broken.
The thread flirted with that discussion but never really came back to it. I see it from the most realistic fake punches direction.
ElectricBlanketFire
Member
Because it's fun as shit.
WAIT WHAT?!
Thanks for stopping by.
wild wild rice
Member
Too bad we'll never have Shane vs. Shibata to know for sure.
The One and Done
Member
People are such haters. Takers striking was legendary
Arrowgigantic
Member
Why not, do you have some sort of mental block preventing you from thinking about it for two seconds?
esmith08734
Member
Hahahah
Camper Van Beethoven
Banned
WWE hasnt been fun for years.
The people watching are hoping itll be fun but know deep down it wont be.
avengers23
Banned
Thanks, I appreciate this!
According to Foley's book, Funk just hits the person as hard as he can. So he's not a great striker. He even quotes Funk in the book saying "Oh, all this time you just thought I was really good."
Io Shirai:
That's actually Yuhi, an 18 year old prodigy who retired.
LMAO what do you think professional wrestling is you goofball
Whoops
SallyIsNow
Banned
Some jabronie with a soccer av is saying this 😂😂😂
Nocturnowl
Member
Hey now, Soccer players are masters of pretending to get hit and overselling that shit.
Easy mistake, I've seen that gif attributed to her all over the place for some reason.
It's a shame she retired for college, but it's common for a lot of young Japanese female wrestlers to bow out at that age. Sometimes they come back so hopefully we'll see Yuhi again. She had legit strikes, was able to german suplex Aja Kong, and did some really cool high flyer stuff.
Yes, especially in a thread about Undertaker.
Greatest striker in pro wrestling is akin to being the fanciest dan in the coal mine.
CommandThrower
Member
I've always loved Jerry Lawler's punches. He can throw a real good looking pro wrestling punch. (no gif examples, so a video will have to suffice)
https://youtu.be/WL3LJMQmKpA?t=1m1s
https://youtu.be/WL3LJMQmKpA?t=1m1s
Needs more Japanese women's wrestling.
Io Shirai:
More Kairi Hojo:
There's something really hot about japanese women beating the absolute piss out of each other.
avengers23
Banned
JasonUresti
Member
Do Lariats count as strikes? Cause technically Stan Hansen worked WWWF, although he wasn't throwing these guys out at that time. He was just breaking necks.
Hansen is shit, he is just really hitting guys without giving a fuck about if he hurts them.
Sounds like pure striking to me
Think the people who make fake shit look real are impressive. I think the people willing to take a real punch are impressive. I don't see how anyone could give a shit about the guys who really punched people.
Not that I'm morally oppossed, but the guy taking the punch is clearly the cool one.
Not that I'm morally oppossed, but the guy taking the punch is clearly the cool one.
Bruce Springsteen
Member
You actually think professional wrasslin is real, lol
Further to what Staccat0 posted: It takes no talent to potato people.
Celebrating people for throwing real punches is sort of fucked up. Between what we're starting to understand about CTE and all the pain management/substance abuse problems in Pro Wrestling, I don't like looking at ANYTHING that seems snug now.
Because they were planning on Doctor Death winning?
Celebrating people for throwing real punches is sort of fucked up. Between what we're starting to understand about CTE and all the pain management/substance abuse problems in Pro Wrestling, I don't like looking at ANYTHING that seems snug now.
Because they were planning on Doctor Death winning?
Of course, the same we know tv shows, movies, video games, comics, etc. are fake. It's simply an form of entertainment.