DangerMouse
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Yeah, I really like the sound of this. Especially the ability to flip it up if you need to, which I think they've mentioned a few times. That sounds remarkably convenient and comfortable.
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We've seen the retail PlayStation VR headset and it's SPECTACULAR [POLYGON]
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Yeah, I really like the sound of this. Especially the ability to flip it up if you need to, which I think they've mentioned a few times. That sounds remarkably convenient and comfortable.
I was under the impression that this was supposed to cost as much as a PS4 console.. So $350 is the price I think Sony is shooting for...$300 at the very best for the consumer..
And most likely there will be separate bundles to include the playstation eye and the move.
You're missing the biggest reason. Kojima.
mrchampipi
Member
Talking about hmd form factor, it's funny to see that an early oculus prototype (pr4) had pretty much the form factor of the psvr. Wonder why they went another route afterwards.
For the moment none of the high performance or "premium" VR experiences are wireless. In order to get the responsiveness they need, the cables are part of the equation for this generation. Of course the mobile solutions like Google cardboard and Gear VR are wireless, but they sacrifice the fidelity of the experience for that portability.
It's early days for the tech though, so it's certainly possible we'll see this in the future, but as always, a wired solution for piping a signal or data in is always a bit more reliable than a wireless, and VR can't really afford to make a poor impression in that regard. Not for its debut.
So, what are the odds that the headset will work with every PS4 game? I mean, all they gotta do is feed the image to the headset and map the motion controls to emulate the right-stick of the controller right? I assume VR games do kinda the double-screen with slight alterations like 3D does which non-VR games wouldn't support, so I'm talking just feeding the normal image to the headset.
FalsettoVibe
Member
Can't wait.
I wouldn't be surprised if they have some sorta theater mode like the Gear VR. The games would also have to display in a lower res.
It's really not that simple. A lot of early Oculus dev kit software was people taking existing games and hacking in VR support in a similar manner. It can have profound moments but overall the experience tends to be either completely broken or sickness inducing.
The best way to handle contemporary games in VR is some kind of a theater-like projection. Give yourself a giant screen to play the games the way they were meant to be played. Even things as simple and standard as menu systems and UI has to be completely redone for VR. A lot of things just don't translate.
johnnydrama
Banned
Still really torn between this and Oculus. Both look amazing.
Like the one I saw at the convention.
It was probably a dev kit?
The PSVR was all black, now its black and white?
the-pi-guy
Member
Me too.
On the one hand, I'm a little uneasy about support for PSVR. But the headset looks amazing, and the support so far looks pretty good.
Oculus though I think will probably get more support, but what if the games that I really really really want to play in VR are only on PSVR?
I am not so secretly wishing that PSVR would support PC through some kind of development....
This just gave me a thought. Since they could render the game at a lower resolution, they could use those extra gpu cycles to render a basic environment for you to view it in. That is assuming they can actually make it so that every game would work despite reducing the gpu resources available.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
According to WCCFTECH (don't laugh), the PSVR Processing Box has a GPU inside it to make 120fps VR gaming possible:
http://wccftech.com/sony-vr-processing-box-nintendo-patent-external-graphics-adapter/
http://wccftech.com/sony-vr-processing-box-nintendo-patent-external-graphics-adapter/
But we've already seen decent third party support for PS4, and it is pretty open as far as consoles go - I'd expect almost all VR focused titles releasing on PC to also come to PSVR, with the exception of oculus/Vive exclusives. Sony have a good indies poicy and the addressable market is too small for a developer to release on PC only.
Ugh I just want to try out real VR already haha. Being slightly impressed with Google Cardboard + my iPhone I expect to be absolutely blown away by a real device.
I really hope a release date is announced soon. I'd love for it to be released before September so I could have some time with it before going back to school.
I really hope a release date is announced soon. I'd love for it to be released before September so I could have some time with it before going back to school.
Sniffynose
Member
So this pretty much confirms the new dead or alive game is VR compatible and coming to NA right!?
what happens in VR stays in VR
*Says 'Don't laugh'*
*Links to hilariously inaccurate article*
It's a test, isn't it? You're testing us.
Because that's not even wrong. It was even in a slide in a dev talk that the reprojection is a small GPGPU compute task and isn't handled by The Box.
To all those talking about price ranges above $300 as if there's no way on earth it could come in lower than that, can I ask a question. What exactly is involved to take it up to that price, which is verging on the same price as the PS4 was when it launched? Now I know Sony have said it will be comparable to a new platform (i.e. console) launch, but I think they said that purely to prevent people getting carried away thinking this could cost $100.
Something few people seem to be talking about is that PSVR is mostly a dumb headset. Sure now it does come with that breakout box to syphon HDMI signals around, but it's not an insanely powered box, there's no second GPU in it, it's mostly just a practical thing to get around the fact the PSVR needs HDMI and your PS4 only has one output, plus it helps with the social screen. Other than that it doesn't seem to do much else.
Now here's where I'm hopeful: Gear VR was $100. Now there's a dumb headset build with the optics built in for VR. $100. PSVR has an extra processing box, some LED's built in to the unit, and has a bit more plastic and materials cost to it as it's bigger. It also has the screen, admittedly, the most expensive component in the headset no doubt. But looking at build of materials for phones and adding the screen isn't going to triple the cost of something like a Gear VR, not remotely. Maybe the extra bits will make it double the cost of Gear VR, maybe 150% more at most in my mind. So yeah I think $250 is very believable, and if Sony truly want this thing to become an instant word-of-mouth hit they might bring it to us for $200. I think talk of $350+ has no merit to it and belies Sony's strategy with the PS4 and for this generation: undercut the competition with great hardware, get the momentum and don't look back.
Something few people seem to be talking about is that PSVR is mostly a dumb headset. Sure now it does come with that breakout box to syphon HDMI signals around, but it's not an insanely powered box, there's no second GPU in it, it's mostly just a practical thing to get around the fact the PSVR needs HDMI and your PS4 only has one output, plus it helps with the social screen. Other than that it doesn't seem to do much else.
Now here's where I'm hopeful: Gear VR was $100. Now there's a dumb headset build with the optics built in for VR. $100. PSVR has an extra processing box, some LED's built in to the unit, and has a bit more plastic and materials cost to it as it's bigger. It also has the screen, admittedly, the most expensive component in the headset no doubt. But looking at build of materials for phones and adding the screen isn't going to triple the cost of something like a Gear VR, not remotely. Maybe the extra bits will make it double the cost of Gear VR, maybe 150% more at most in my mind. So yeah I think $250 is very believable, and if Sony truly want this thing to become an instant word-of-mouth hit they might bring it to us for $200. I think talk of $350+ has no merit to it and belies Sony's strategy with the PS4 and for this generation: undercut the competition with great hardware, get the momentum and don't look back.
JetSetRadio
Banned
Ace Combat sold me on one of these, but I'm not sure yet if I'm getting it at launch, haven't really seen anything that I want to play so far, maybe Rigs.
gunslikewhoa
Member
Don't forget Move and camera as well.
Insane Metal
Gold Member
That's the catch. The move controllers are probably optional, but the camera is required.
I guess $300 is the minimum for the PSVR.
There's already good software out there. Only people who've never tried VR will say what you are saying.
backbreaker65
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The Problem with this article and the title of this thread is, the Processing Unit isn't the same size of the Wii it is very much smaller than the Wii. I don't know how Polygon even made that statement.
BMX Bandit
Member
Doesn't GearVR require a rather expensive cellphone to work?
Dragon Puncher
Member
Sounds good, but price will make or break this thing and VR in general.
Hoping for $250 for the headset alone and 350$ for headset, camera and move controller.
Hoping for $250 for the headset alone and 350$ for headset, camera and move controller.
onken
Member
Whatever, it's semantics to me. When you look at the picture can you see a clear grid where the pixels meet? Because when I used the DK2, I very much could and it was very hard to get over.
mckmas8808
Mckmaster uses MasterCard to buy Slave drives
LOL!
Fair enough. I get what you mean - it's easy as hell to see.
But for me, as soon as you're immersed into the content, you kinda forget about the screen door.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
But has Sony learned from the VHS and BetaMAX war? Will there be porn on PSVR?
These are the big questions.
These are the big questions.
Graphics Horse
Member
it wouldn't need to when the wii fits in a disc drive, but that's beside the point. That 'tech' article is just bollocks written by someone who hasn't read anything beyond headlines, or acts like it. Sony have been very clear about what tasks the box does.
the-pi-guy
Member
*tries not to laugh*
*laughs really hard*
I'm sorry.
Possible, sure. I don't think Sony has said anything.
But I can't imagine that they will support it themselves.
Biggest hope would be if the box can plug into a PC, and then users could do something about it. Even then though, there'd be difficulties, and I'm not sure the box could plug everything into a PC.
WordAssassin
Member
It is VR compatible but it's not coming out in America, they said they don't want to deal with the shit storm all the SJWs would throw their way.
Asian release has full english subtitles though and from what I understand PS4 is region free so import away!
You want Oculus for that. They've already publicly stated their "blind eye" approach to adult content. They don't endorse it, they won't sell it on the official Oculus online storefront, but they're not putting up barriers for other content producers to make or sell it on their own.
As far as I know Valve hasn't made any statements about their stance on it. Sony's already a lost cause in this regard. It's going on a console, no console supports AO esrb rated content.
serversurfer
Member
I haven't read the whole thread, but did we ever determine whether what Polygon saw was merely final spec, or the actual retail hardware? Seems odd they wouldn't be allowed to take pictures if it was merely the former, and if it's the latter, that could mean Sony are comparatively close to launch. What was the gap between when they started building PS4s versus when it launched? Like 3-4 months, right?
So how come PornHub reported that its biggest non-PC streaming audience was via PS3?
There's a difference between streaming porn via a built in browser and downloading 180 and 360 degree 3D videos for use with a VR headset.
Yeah since the 90's
I guess you also posted a picture of a Dreamcast modem when people said online was the future, or a picture of a power glove when the Wii was revealed.
Yeah... That's not true...
plasmawave
Banned
I hope the box is shaped like PSOne and you wear it on your back Virtual On style.