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What are you reading? (September 2011)

hunter7725

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After reading Heart Shaped Box I picked up this one.
 
Halfway through Gravity's Rainbow. Really not as hard as I thought it would be, maybe I'm just a better reader then i thought.

Debating what to read next, American Gods or Against the Day
 

Fjordson

Member
That Long Ships book sounds really neat.

Damn these topics, always making me spend so much money on books. When I already have a ton of unread ones on my shelf :lol
 

Dresden

Member
Read Borders of Infinity for the first time - it's the Vorkosigan novella about the Marilac rescue - and not much to say about it, really, other than that this is Bujold doin' her thing and it is awesome.
 

Mumei

Member
BorkBork said:
Yeah Wizard > Farthest Shore > Atuan was my order when I finished it the first time, years ago. As I did subsequent rereads and really fell in love with the trilogy, I grew to appreciate how Le Guin subverted traditional fantasy expectations; really, who would expect Atuan and Shore to come after Wizard?
Who would want to see the protagonist of the first to be dependent on a girl? Everyone wants Ged to kick some ass all the time!
But they're all beautifully written, and tell of Ged's journey through life, especially the parts when he needs a little help. The angle from which she writes the series is so different than conventional fantasy, and that's what makes it SO damn good. Tehanu subverts even more of the genre, pretty much turning it on its head. It's flawed, but well worth the read. You gotta be prepared for it though.

Not many books stayed with me throughout the years, but these do. Wizard worked best for me when I loved adventure and traditional action fantasy. Atuan worked for me when I was struggling against dogma, and developing into a self-thinking individual. Shore worked best when I encountered the notion of growing old and facing death in my personal life. They're all marvelous; to me, they all resonate during different phases of growing up and growing old, because that's what they were written to do:

I think the main reason I didn't connect to Atuan was because I never experienced that struggle against dogma (religious, at least, and I can't think of any other experiences with dogma in my life). It was a bit of a stretch trying to imagine feeling inculcated into a sort of belief system to anything close to the degree she was, and I never had that experience of having my worldview deconstructed the way hers was. It was very interesting (and as agrajag described it, very minimalist), but I felt somewhat distant from it.

Also with regards to the Taoism you mentioned: Reading this so shortly after having read Musashi (and honestly not that long after Siddhartha), I thought that a lot of the philosophy in the series seemed vaguely "Asian-y" to me, but I couldn't really place it until you mentioned it.

I finished A Personal Matter today. I really liked the novel, though it was rather difficult to read. Not in terms of difficulty; it was just that Bird was an intensely difficult character to sympathize with given his reaction to the birth of his brain-damaged child and he said, thought, and did some things that were difficult. I'm looking forward to reading more of the books the author wrote dealing with the birth and raising of his son. I own Rouse Up O Young Men of the New Age!, so I suppose that'll be the next one I read.

I've started Gene Wolfe's The Fifth Head of Cerberus novella (the one with the three interconnected short stories. I'm about a 4/5 of the way through the first story. It's... interesting. I don't know how much I like it yet, but it's certainly interesting. This is my first Gene Wolfe work. A few months past when I picked up books at Borders, I picked up some Gene Wolfe books and I'm finally getting around to reading the first one. I figured that one of his earliest (if not the earliest?) books would be a good place to start.

Dresden said:
Read Borders of Infinity for the first time - it's the Vorkosigan novella about the Marilac rescue - and not much to say about it, really, other than that this is Bujold doin' her thing and it is awesome.

I was thinking about getting the first of the omnibus collections after hearing about that series in one of these topics.
 

survivor

Banned
A quick question concerning the next book series that I want to read. For the Foundation series is it preferable to read the original trilogy then work my way through the prequels and the sequels? Or should I read it chronologically starting with the prequels? I realized the original trilogy is collected in a single hardcover volume so I'm very interested in picking that up.
 

Dresden

Member
I think I'll make a push to finish Master and Margarita this week - I also feel a tad bit guilty about not posting in the club thread much, after making the suggestion for it in the first place.

Also bought Brasyl by Ian McDonald - I loved River of Gods, hopefully this one can follow up.
Mumei said:
I was thinking about getting the first of the omnibus collections after hearing about that series in one of these topics.
Yeah, they're great. Bujold is a wonderful writer.
survivor said:
A quick question concerning the next book series that I want to read. For the Foundation series is it preferable to read the original trilogy then work my way through the prequels and the sequels? Or should I read it chronologically starting with the prequels? I realized the original trilogy is collected in a single hardcover volume so I'm very interested in picking that up.
I would just read the original trilogy, but be warned, I'm not a big Asimov fan.
 

Mumei

Member
Dresden said:
Yeah, they're great. Bujold is a wonderful writer.

And they're so inexpensive, too... Well, I will read them soon enough, anyway.

I just finished The Fifth Head of Cerberus and promptly went a-searching for information since my head hurt. I was pleasantly surprised to see that some of the things I suspected were true, so at least I didn't miss everything. There was definitely some (quite a bit of) stuff I didn't notice the first time, and so I'll have to reread one day. I do think I like Mr Wolfe, though.

I bought The Killer Inside Me yesterday, and I think I'll read that next.
 

BorkBork

The Legend of BorkBork: BorkBorkity Borking
Thoughts on the Wire: Urban Decay and American Television:

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goodread description said:
This is a brilliant collection of essays on a show that has taken the art of television drama to new heights. "The Wire" is about survival, about the strategies adopted by those living and working in the inner cities of America. It presents a world where for many even hope isn't an option, where life operates as day-to-day existence without education, without job security and without social structures. Over its five season, sixty-episode run (2002-2008), "The Wire" presents several overlapping narrative threads, all set in the city of Baltimore. The series consistently deconstructs conventional narratives of law, order - and disorder - offering a view of America that has never before been admitted to the public discourse of the televisual. It is bleak and at times excruciating. By focusing on four main topics (Crime, Law Enforcement, America and Television), examines the series' place within popular culture and its representation of the realities of inner city life, social institutions and politics in contemporary American society.

The Wire: Urban Decay and American Television is an excellent companion for anyone who is interested in delving deeper into the myriad connections and themes of one of television’s most complicated shows. This collection of essays runs the full gamut of topics, from exploring the forces that shaped two of the main characters in Season Four in Ralph and Luara Bolf-Beliveau’s excellent “Posing Problems and Picking Fights: Critical Pedagogy and the Corner Boys” to examining homophobic attitudes of HBO forum posters towards the Wire’s arguably most popular character in Kathleen LeBesco’s “Gots to Get Got: Social Justice and Audience Response to Omar Little”.

Historical explorations of Baltimore, character studies, television narrative complexity - there’s a LOT of meat here. But then again, the show is so rich that I feel that there is absolutely no shortage of material and perspectives for another collection.

Because the collection covers such a broad spectrum of topics, its appeal does fluctuate from essay to essay. I would find myself immersed in one section (Jason Read’s Stringer Bell’s Lament: Violence and Legitimacy in Contemporary Capitalism), only to be completely disengaged and outright confused in another (Kevin McNeilly’s Dislocating America: Agnieszka Holland Directs “Moral Midgetry” did nothing for me because I’m unfamiliar with the process of directing). I expect this to be the case for most readers; thus it’s tough to throw out a solid recommendation for every Wire fan out there.

Still, I suspect that if you enjoyed the series enough to seek out additional analysis, there’s definitely something in here for you. Personally, this book has earned a place on my bookshelf, as the Wire has cemented its spot in my DVD collection as television’s most engaging and demanding show.

Oh and only read this after you have finished the series. Spoilers everywhere.
 
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had a list of books to choose from for a class, and decided to give this a run. Pretty lighthearted thus far and enjoyable. We will if it holds up
 

Mumei

Member
BorkBork said:
Thoughts on the Wire: Urban Decay and American Television:

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The Wire: Urban Decay and American Television is an excellent companion for anyone who is interested in delving deeper into the myriad connections and themes of one of television’s most complicated shows. This collection of essays runs the full gamut of topics, from exploring the forces that shaped two of the main characters in Season Four in Ralph and Luara Bolf-Beliveau’s excellent “Posing Problems and Picking Fights: Critical Pedagogy and the Corner Boys” to examining homophobic attitudes of HBO forum posters towards the Wire’s arguably most popular character in Kathleen LeBesco’s “Gots to Get Got: Social Justice and Audience Response to Omar Little”.

Historical explorations of Baltimore, character studies, television narrative complexity - there’s a LOT of meat here. But then again, the show is so rich that I feel that there is absolutely no shortage of material and perspectives for another collection.

Because the collection covers such a broad spectrum of topics, its appeal does fluctuate from essay to essay. I would find myself immersed in one section (Jason Read’s Stringer Bell’s Lament: Violence and Legitimacy in Contemporary Capitalism), only to be completely disengaged and outright confused in another (Kevin McNeilly’s Dislocating America: Agnieszka Holland Directs “Moral Midgetry” did nothing for me because I’m unfamiliar with the process of directing). I expect this to be the case for most readers; thus it’s tough to throw out a solid recommendation for every Wire fan out there.

Still, I suspect that if you enjoyed the series enough to seek out additional analysis, there’s definitely something in here for you. Personally, this book has earned a place on my bookshelf, as the Wire has cemented its spot in my DVD collection as television’s most engaging and demanding show.

Oh and only read this after you have finished the series. Spoilers everywhere.

:O

Well this is a must-read for me. The Wire is my (
and everyone, even those who don't know it yet!
) favorite television show and I loved its depth. I wish I had been able to take one of those semester classes on it that were (and maybe still are, I don't know) offered at several universities.
 
Gotham is the Kindle daily deal today for $1.49. It's the history of New York City. Sounds interesting ...

Like the city it celebrates, Gotham is massive and endlessly fascinating. This narrative of well over 1,000 pages, written after more than two decades of collaborative research by history professors Edwin G. Burrows and Mike Wallace, copiously chronicles New York City from the primeval days of the Lenape Indians to the era when, with Teddy Roosevelt as police commissioner, the great American city became regarded as "Capital of the World."
 

Salazar

Member
Mumei said:
I finished A Personal Matter today. I really liked the novel, though it was rather difficult to read. Not in terms of difficulty; it was just that Bird was an intensely difficult character to sympathize with given his reaction to the birth of his brain-damaged child and he said, thought, and did some things that were difficult. I'm looking forward to reading more of the books the author wrote dealing with the birth and raising of his son. I own Rouse Up O Young Men of the New Age!, so I suppose that'll be the next one I read.

I adore Rouse Up. Eeyore/Hikari is tremendously endearing - in, naturally, a difficult and emotionally trying way. A Quiet Life is probably my favourite after it. I thought Somersault was rather terrible, but I do mean to reread it and give it a bit more of a chance to work on me.

Oe's Paris Review interview is quite lovely.

INTERVIEWER

How did your family respond when you won the Nobel Prize?

OE

My family’s assessment of me didn’t change. I was sitting here reading. Hikari was listening to music over there. My son, who was a biochemistry student at the University of Tokyo, and my daughter, who was a student at Sophia University, were in the dining area. They didn’t expect me to win. There was a phone call at around nine P.M. Hikari answered it—that’s one of his hobbies, answering the phone. He can say, Hello, how are you? perfectly in French, German, Russian, Chinese, and Korean. So he answered the phone and said in English, No, and then again, No. Then Hikari handed me the phone. It was a member of the Nobel committee of the Swedish Academy. He asked me, Are you Kenzaburo? I asked him if Hikari had refused the Nobel Prize on my behalf and then I said, I’m sorry—I accept. I put the phone down, came back to this chair, sat down, and announced to my family, I’ve won it. My wife said, Is that right?

INTERVIEWER

That’s all she said?

OE

Yes, and my two children said nothing. They just went to their rooms quietly. Hikari continued to listen to music. I’ve never talked to him about the Nobel Prize.

http://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/5816/the-art-of-fiction-no-195-kenzaburo-oe
 

FnordChan

Member
survivor said:
A quick question concerning the next book series that I want to read. For the Foundation series is it preferable to read the original trilogy then work my way through the prequels and the sequels? Or should I read it chronologically starting with the prequels?

When in doubt, you should read series in publication order, not internal chronological order. I'd say that's particularly true in this case, so you should definitely start with the original trilogy.

FnordChan
 

Mumei

Member
Salazar said:
I adore Rouse Up. Eeyore/Hikari is tremendously endearing - in, naturally, a difficult and emotionally trying way. A Quiet Life is probably my favourite after it. I thought Somersault was rather terrible, but I do mean to reread it and give it a bit more of a chance to work on me.

Oe's Paris Review interview is quite lovely.



http://www.theparisreview.org/interviews/5816/the-art-of-fiction-no-195-kenzaburo-oe

I actually saw a couple posts of yours when I searched GAF to see if anyone else had read / talked about his books! And I will have to get some of his other books if I like Rouse Up as well.

I finished The Killer Inside Me just now. It was... disturbing seeing everything from his perspective. The story / plot / characters weren't particularly interesting; it was just the experience of reading something from the perspective of a deranged mind that is unable to recognize its own insanity.

I'm thinking I'll read Jane Eyre next. I haven't read any of the 19th century, er, chick lit before.
 

BorkBork

The Legend of BorkBork: BorkBorkity Borking
survivor said:
A quick question concerning the next book series that I want to read. For the Foundation series is it preferable to read the original trilogy then work my way through the prequels and the sequels? Or should I read it chronologically starting with the prequels? I realized the original trilogy is collected in a single hardcover volume so I'm very interested in picking that up.

I actually stumbled unto Prelude first, but yeah, go with the publication order. Original trilogy (Foundation > Empire > Second), then the sequels (Foundation's Edge > Foundation and Earth), then the two prequels (Prelude > Forward).
There are more but they're not written by Asimov though.

You need to END with Forward the Foundation. Very poignant and touching, almost autobiographical; I sensed that Asimov was reflecting upon his life before he passed away.
 

survivor

Banned
Alright thank you people for the help. Gonna get the trilogy this weekend and give it a read.

Anyway along with Game of Thrones, I started reading The Great Gatsby. I never read the book in high school since my English teacher preferred Death of a Salesman over it. Oh well. 50 pages into the book so far and it's okay.
 

Kuraudo

Banned
survivor said:
A quick question concerning the next book series that I want to read. For the Foundation series is it preferable to read the original trilogy then work my way through the prequels and the sequels? Or should I read it chronologically starting with the prequels? I realized the original trilogy is collected in a single hardcover volume so I'm very interested in picking that up.

Saw that edition in Waterstones the other day. Really beautiful book.
 

aidan

Hugo Award Winning Author and Editor
FnordChan said:
Here's a post where I suggest a chronological reading order; the short version is to read the omnibus editions in the following order:

1) Cordelia's Honor
2) Young Miles
3) Miles, Mystery, and Mayhem
4) Miles Errant
5) Memory (Not an omnibus volume but it should absolutely be read following Miles Errant)
6) Miles in Love

FnordChan

Awesome. Thanks!

Also, for those that don't know. eBooks of all the Vorkosigan novels (those listed above) are availing for free (legal) download from the publisher.
 

wrowa

Member
Btw does anyone know whether the American edition of Murakami's 1Q84 will include only books 1&2 or also book 3?
 

bengraven

Member
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Nearly done with the first Cugel book...went and bought the complete edition so I can finish the stories out.

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About to start.
 

Karakand

Member
Because GAF book club is reading counter-revolutionary material this month (smh) I decided to read something from upstanding builders of Socialism.

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Imagine Svejk, but about something that's actually funny plus free of filler because its authors were upstanding builders of Socialism instead of a deadbeat, and you have a rough idea of what it's like.

If you want a more specific description, it's about a group of con artists in the Soviet Union just before First Five Year Plan, which sort of resembles today's People's Republic of China in economic terms, trying to steal money from a secret millionaire.

It was serialized originally and you can tell, but I don't have a problem with that because it makes a book easier to start and stop.

Unfortunately your two options in publication are the Open Letter Books one (the version I'm reading), which is shackled by the publisher's stance on footnotes and annotation (as little as possible), or Russian Life's, which is basically an encyclopedia with a rough translation.
 

Emerson

May contain jokes =>
Finished:

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Now moving back to some hardcore shit:

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I've heard nothing but rave reviews about this. I'm only 10% in, but I gotta say it hasn't hooked me yet. It's getting better, but the prologue was painful to get through. Hopefully I'm not alone in this and it gets as good as advertised.
 

Lafiel

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Cyan said:
Haha, history repeats. I was about to post a follow-on to this post, then I saw that I had done exactly the same thing in the thread you linked.

Just to recap: Shards and Warrior's Apprentice were the first books Bujold ever wrote (along with the eminently skippable Ethan of Athos), and it kinda shows. Each is followed up with a Hugo-winning sequel. In short, don't be put off if the first one you read doesn't seem to quite live up to the hype. ;)

I'd actually suggest changing the order from Young miles > Cordelias honor instead. I think the warriors appreciate is more accessible than Shards of honor even if it's a bit rough around the edges to.
 

Ratrat

Member
Finished The Darkness that Comes Before. Is it possibly wrong that I want to strangle all the female characters dead?

still reading
The Magician King: still derivative
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress: still sexist
Jane Eyre: still verbose
 

Mumei

Member
I'm about a fifth of the way through Jane Eyre now. I really like it, though it is certainly wordy.

Karakand said:
You should go see it performed if you ever get the chance. Or any of G&S's stuff, really.

Oh, I will. I actually went and watched clips of the songs when I could find them (and I found most of them) and watched as well as read along. I would really like to see it if I got the chance.

FnordChan said:
Here's a post where I suggest a chronological reading order; the short version is to read the omnibus editions in the following order:

1) Cordelia's Honor
2) Young Miles
3) Miles, Mystery, and Mayhem
4) Miles Errant
5) Memory (Not an omnibus volume but it should absolutely be read following Miles Errant)
6) Miles in Love

FnordChan

Excellent. I picked up Cordelia's Honor and Young Miles today.

wrowa said:
Btw does anyone know whether the American edition of Murakami's 1Q84 will include only books 1&2 or also book 3?

It includes all three parts.
 
Mumei said:
It includes all three parts.



Yeah, the first 2 volumes are being translated by Jay Rubin, and Philip Gabriel is handling the 3rd, so I hope they are at least communicating so that it's all cohesive.
 

survivor

Banned
LocoMrPollock said:
Yeah, the first 2 volumes are being translated by Jay Rubin, and Philip Gabriel is handling the 3rd, so I hope they are at least communicating so that it's all cohesive.
Yeah I'm kinda worried about having 2 translators working on the same book. I do have faith that they are taking extreme care to make both translations flow together, but who knows what can happen. Then again I might just be overreacting.
 

Dresden

Member
Republic of Thieves delayed again:
wertzone said:
Okay, it was clear a few weeks ago that The Republic of Thieves was not going to be a 2011 release, but Gollancz have confirmed it by giving the book a new date of March 2012 in their online catalogue.

It's a bummer, for sure.

That said Lynch seems to have snapped out of that depression (and lost weight too), so one can't help but be happy for the guy.
 

SolKane

Member
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And after that I will be reading Jimmy Carter's "White House Diary." Might read the whole thing if it's interesting enough or do it piecemeal.
 

wrowa

Member
LocoMrPollock said:
Yeah, the first 2 volumes are being translated by Jay Rubin, and Philip Gabriel is handling the 3rd, so I hope they are at least communicating so that it's all cohesive.
That's great news. :)

I've read the German translation of the first two volumes last year and the translation of the third book is coming out in the beginning of October. However, since it's been such a long time I have to re-read the first volumes before reading the third-- but I don't really feel like reading it in German again.

This way I can just buy the American edition and call it a day. It's even cheaper that way. Nice. :)
 

Diseased Yak

Gold Member
After seeing it talked about all over, I started reading The Hunger Games today in between projects at work, and now all of a sudden I can't wait to get home to keep reading...
 

Godslay

Banned
Emerson said:
Now moving back to some hardcore shit:

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I've heard nothing but rave reviews about this. I'm only 10% in, but I gotta say it hasn't hooked me yet. It's getting better, but the prologue was painful to get through. Hopefully I'm not alone in this and it gets as good as advertised.

I started reading this last weekend. I'm about 70% done and I can tell you that it has hooked me and is much better then I thought it would be.
 
GAF, I work in a public library and have recently been put in charge of ordering and weeding Sci-Fi/Fantasy for our collection. The two genres share the same shelf, and space is an issue. I want to get rid of the old and replace it with something decent, and new. I'm the first SF/Fantasy enthusiast to ever be responsible for ordering these materials, so I'd like to craft our collection to match current readers' sensibilities. Imagine for a moment a collection comprised 75% of old Star Wars/Trek paperbacks, movie novelizations, and R.A. Salvatore.

Does anyone want to give me suggestions as to what I should order? Any particularly hated books that I should weed, if I have them? Just picking your brains.
 

Karakand

Member
Deified Data said:
GAF, I work in a public library and have recently been put in charge of ordering and weeding Sci-Fi/Fantasy for our collection. The two genres share the same shelf, and space is an issue. I want to get rid of the old and replace it with something decent, and new. I'm the first SF/Fantasy enthusiast to ever be responsible for ordering these materials, so I'd like to craft our collection to match current readers' sensibilities. Imagine for a moment a collection comprised 75% of old Star Wars/Trek paperbacks, movie novelizations, and R.A. Salvatore.

Does anyone want to give me suggestions as to what I should order? Any particularly hated books that I should weed, if I have them? Just picking your brains.
Get An Inconvenient Truth for your science fiction section.
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Mumei

Member
Deified Data said:
GAF, I work in a public library and have recently been put in charge of ordering and weeding Sci-Fi/Fantasy for our collection. The two genres share the same shelf, and space is an issue. I want to get rid of the old and replace it with something decent, and new. I'm the first SF/Fantasy enthusiast to ever be responsible for ordering these materials, so I'd like to craft our collection to match current readers' sensibilities. Imagine for a moment a collection comprised 75% of old Star Wars/Trek paperbacks, movie novelizations, and R.A. Salvatore.

Does anyone want to give me suggestions as to what I should order? Any particularly hated books that I should weed, if I have them? Just picking your brains.

If you look on the OP, you'll see a link to a list of science fiction / fantasy novels that will probably give you a really good starting off point, as well.

Of what I've read recently, I really enjoyed Catherynne Valente's The Habitation of the Blessed (and will be reading Palimpsest and Yume no Hon soon, so I'll have to get back to you on those), Gene Wolfe's The Fifth Head of Cerberus, Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn trilogy, Ursula LeGuin's Earthsea Cycle, Carl Sagan's Contact, and Gail Carriger's Soulless. Oh, and The Complete Fairy Tales by George MacDonald was excellent, though I could imagine it being placed elsewhere despite clearly being fantasy.

I hadn't read much in the way of science fiction / fantasy for several years before this, though. I read Susan Cooper's The Dark is Rising Sequence in 2007, but that's more likely to be in the children / young adult section, before that I read George R.R. Martin's A Song of Ice and Fire series around 2006, and before that I mostly stuck to the sci-fi /fantasy stuff that is well-known like Dune, LotR, or Ender's Game or whatever.

Edit:

Completely forgot to update for myself~

I finished Jane Eyre. I liked it, though I found all so... I don't know. It was just coming from a very different time and perspective that I had trouble feeling involved. I liked it best when Jane was arguing with someone, and less so when she was describing physiognomy. Overall I enjoyed it. I think I'll try Jane Austen next whenever I get around to reading more of the genre.

I started reading Storm Front per a friend's recommendation. Quite a bit of it is making me cringe, but we'll see. I'm liking parts of it, at least.

Diseased Yak said:
After seeing it talked about all over, I started reading The Hunger Games today in between projects at work, and now all of a sudden I can't wait to get home to keep reading...

I saw this for $8 and was thinking about it. Recommend, I take it?
 
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