So all those cables, none of them actually work?
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Wii U - No optical audio connector? Nintendo. Fix this!!
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So all those cables, none of them actually work?
Palette Swap
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That isn't too much of an issue as long as devs put the choice in the sound options for the game, as in Uncharted for example.
Teletraan1
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If you read any of the "discussion" a lot of the posts wanted to change the title of the thread to reflect what is being discussed here. The main "discussion" is that you wont be getting multichannel surround sound out of a Wii U unless you have a HDMI receiver or an expensive decoder that costs a similar amount as an entry level receiver. This is a fact that many buyers wont realize until they get home since every other device on the planet that offers multichannel surround has various output options for multichannel surround so it is not a barrier to purchase for anyone.
I don't really care about the sound quality difference between LPCM and DD5.1 or DTS, I only want directional audio in a 3d game. I could not imagine playing something like Dark Souls in Stereo.
exmachina64
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Yeah, next you'll be telling us Nintendo won't even have analogue triggers! Haha!
I'm in a similar boat (Astro Mixamp) as you are - luckily I don't care about voice chat as I always use Skype when playing with mates. Stereo audio I'll get via the Cinch connectors the AV Cable provides.
Not terribly knowledgable about these things.
I recently ditched a mid-2000s entry level Panny HTiB for an Onkyo TX-NR616 and Energy Take Classic 5.1 speakers. My PS3 and 360 are hooked up via HDMI for both video and audio.
Am I good to go re: the Wii-U?
I recently ditched a mid-2000s entry level Panny HTiB for an Onkyo TX-NR616 and Energy Take Classic 5.1 speakers. My PS3 and 360 are hooked up via HDMI for both video and audio.
Am I good to go re: the Wii-U?
You are golden, the Wii U will output Linear PCM 5.1 (like the PS3 does when set up correctly) via HDMI which provides the best possible audio quality.
Marty Chinn
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You're good.
Thank you both for the confirmation.
Regarding proper PS3 set up, what should I be looking at in my settings?
I'm thinking it could depend on developers whether they want to support or not and the system itself only supports LPCM. the Tekken box has no logo on the back for example. Maybe this way licensing fee is transfered to the publisher or something like that. Press has the console now, we will find out when reviews come out I imagine and system menus.
It's definitely software based, similarly to how Dolby Pro Logic was done on GC/Wii. To what extend the DSP can help processing it depends on what extend it's programmable. It certainly won't be able to encode anything Dolby without any developer effort since that would mean Nintendo has to pay additional license fees for each hardware unit which is exactly what they try to avoid so hard.
The back of my cheapo surround all in one looks like this, excuse the dust
http://imgur.com/AzmL9
Is there any way to get around only having one HDMI or am I shopping for a new set?
http://imgur.com/AzmL9
Is there any way to get around only having one HDMI or am I shopping for a new set?
The back of my cheapo surround all in one looks like this, excuse the dust
http://imgur.com/AzmL9
Is there any way to get around only having one HDMI or am I shopping for a new set?
If you only need to switch between 2 HDMI sources you could go the cheap route and use what I use: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Pelican-XBo...t=Video_Games_Accessories&hash=item336d43af25
It's affordable and will automatically switch between inputs.
Backfoggen
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The back of my cheapo surround all in one looks like this, excuse the dust
http://imgur.com/AzmL9
Is there any way to get around only having one HDMI or am I shopping for a new set?
That fan is probably dead lol.
Not sure that would work. Right now the one HDMI on the box connects to the TV, if I plug the Wii U in then nothing is connected to the TV. Think I need to connect the Wii U with HDMI and then use another type of connection for DVD player to TV. But It won't be HD then..
I just read in the release day thread that if you use HDMI, the other port is turned off. So you can't send the video signal via HDMI to the TV and send at least a stereo signal to an older AV-Receiver for Pro-Logic sound at the same time.
Can anyone else confirm this? That would be pretty horrible...
Can anyone else confirm this? That would be pretty horrible...
Zoramon089
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I hope it isn't true. I'm a poor grad student with only a monitor (with no speakers) for my laptop. I can't be buying a tv. Although I heard using the headphone jack you get all the sounds
Yeah it's true. You also can't enable ProLogic or Digital without using HDMI for audio.
Palette Swap
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I'm not going to change my receiver for a WiiU (hell, I'm really not sure when/if I'll get one) but I was looking at what I could replace my Denon 2106 with and though there is a 2113, the Yamaha RX-V673 looks pretty awesome. Anyone has one or listened to one?
Wow, that would really suck.
according to the manual http://www.nintendo.com/consumer/downloads/wiiu_quickstart_guide_en.pdf
it does support component but for HD resolution it doesn't say, I'd guess not.
I'd really like it if someone can take a pic from audio/display settings options, there are none I can find.
My TV (Sony KDL-46EX500) has optical out. Could I at least send a stereo signal from the Wii-U to my AV-Receiver that way?
Giant Bomb is playing in 720p over component. I'm sure it supports 1080p over component, but most TVs do not.
Yeah, you can get stereo sound from it. WiiU-> HDMI to TV -> TV optical or analog -> receiver
Ok then, this is another solution. use component cables.
I'm not an expert on home theater setup, so I'm a bit confused. Why is there a mini-uproar about this especially among forum goers who I assume tend invest more in getting the latest & greatest PC & home theater equipment?
With the Wii U, I ran the HDMI cable from the console to the TV and a digital cable from the TV to my receiver. My receiver is around 10 years old, so I'm guessing most folks could set things up in a similar way. What am I missing out on by connecting the components like this?
With the Wii U, I ran the HDMI cable from the console to the TV and a digital cable from the TV to my receiver. My receiver is around 10 years old, so I'm guessing most folks could set things up in a similar way. What am I missing out on by connecting the components like this?
You are getting stereo sound or Dolby Prologic II, not 6 channel audio. that's the problem.
Palette Swap
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Chances are your TV downmixes the sound signal to stereo.
My tv does support 1080p over component.
O.k., so I have two options:
1.) 1080p video via HDMI + optical stereo from the TV to the AV receiver
2.) 1080p video via component + stereo via cinch from the Wii u to the AV receiver
I say go with (1) because picture quality beats what you get from analog way.
Yeah, that will be my first option.
I'm just glad that there is still another plan B, since this whole matter seems to still continue to get more and more complicated.
LemonGremlin
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This is fucking me over because I output HDMI to projector, optical to (non HDMI) AV receiver.
So can I at least plug headphones into the gamepad? That should work right?
So can I at least plug headphones into the gamepad? That should work right?
Nintendo needs to fix this pronto: I'm able to accept the lack of the hugely useful TOSLINK connector, but not allowing HDMI picture with Multi AV (Cinch) Audio out at the same time (like PS3 and 360) is a huge disappointment. I expected this standard mode of operation to work - guess now it's clear why Nintendo never mentioned any setup specifics.
I'm not getting a new receiver for a console that, at this point, has all of two games worth playing (and with my headphone system a new AV receiver would complicate my setup significantly).
I'm not getting a new receiver for a console that, at this point, has all of two games worth playing (and with my headphone system a new AV receiver would complicate my setup significantly).
That's my solution with the Bravia. But it's stereo , not optical. It's still better than the tv speakers.
Again, anyone tried one of these with optical/coax yet to see the outcome? I guess if there's no DD/DTS on the HDMI signal, it probably won't work at all right? I mean to say, no audio will be passed to the older receivers at all.
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=5557&seq=1&format=2
http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=5557&seq=1&format=2
Same with my Samsung TV. Fortunately, my audio receiver decodes it into Dolby Pro Logic II.
The Wii U doesn't support DD 5.1 or DTS encoding, which is necessary for 5.1 surround via TOSLINK. With such a box, you would get stereo (maybe Dolby Pro Logic 2) via the optical or coaxial port.
Man-is-Obsolete
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This should have been in the thread title or something by now.
My guess is that you haven't actually seen a cable like that. And if you have, they're such scams that it's illegal. A functional HDMI->component would easily be 100$
Well, HDMI through a TV would process the sound to stereo/dpl, but I don't think the switch even tries to convert audio and rather attempts to pass a raw signal through. That's why I'm wondering what toslink would do, since it probably can't even handle the signal bandwidth.
I bought one because I needed more hdmi inputs anyway, so I'll be able to test it out soon.
Man-is-Obsolete
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Are you the same person that complains about a $400-$500 console price?
Wii U doesn't support 7.1.
Anyway, the omnidirectional speakers I'm using are awesome, so I don't want to change them. At least they're 6ohm, so I should be able to get them to work with a good modern receiver.. but that will have to come down the road as the wife would kill me.