flyinpiranha
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This just makes me realize how outdated my receiver is. Just bought in 2008 too.
If you use HDMI no. If you use analog stereo the advantage is the ability to transmit DD5.1 bitstream. But a lot of receivers don't support HDMI audio, especially older than 2009 ones, so for a lot of people lack of optical/DD is a big bummer.cajunator said:I've never used optical and I don't really see a need for it.
Are there advantages to it?
Is this going to be the "we should thank them for finally making us update" argument?flyinpiranha said:This just makes me realize how outdated my receiver is. Just bought in 2008 too.
Which won't get you 5.1 sound if the console itself only supports LPCM.TunaLover said:We'll need something like this
A lot of receivers used to have HDMI ports but only support HDMI video passthrough and did not support HDMI audio. This was common for a lot of lower and mid end receivers until relatively recently. You are probably one of the lucky ones.levious said:Some of these years being thrown around don't make sense to me, I bought a sony receiver with hdmi in early 2008 for 300 dollars.
High-end audio amps are a scam in itself. Analog audio circuitry has been a solved problem since the early 80s. Speakers are the only thing that you still need to think about for more than five seconds.lowrider007 said:I really hate all this "hdmi receiver can be had for only blah blah etc", an older high end receiver like an old top end Denon for example will blow most, if not all budget/mid range hdmi receivers out of the water in terms of audio quality, what some people don't seem to realise is that HD audio on a budget receiver will not be better quality than ac3/dts on an old top end receiver as the components are of much lessor quality, and less power also, HD audio on cheap amps is scam imo.
Rolf NB said:High-end audio amps are a scam in itself. Analog audio circuitry has been a solved problem since the early 80s. Speakers are the only thing that you still need to think about for more than five seconds.
Theonik said:A lot of receivers used to have HDMI ports but only support HDMI video passthrough and did not support HDMI audio. This was common for a lot of lower and mid end receivers until relatively recently. You are probably one of the lucky ones.
Edit: Also agree with the post above me.
You know the buzzer noise on Family Fortunes that signals an incorrect answer?Rolf NB said:High-end audio amps are a scam in itself. Analog audio circuitry has been a solved problem since the early 80s. Speakers are the only thing that you still need to think about for more than five seconds.
AhahahahahahahahahahRolf NB said:High-end audio amps are a scam in itself. Analog audio circuitry has been a solved problem since the early 80s. Speakers are the only thing that you still need to think about for more than five seconds.
I don't need to, that's the point.Amon37 said:Interesting claim considering you have no idea what I own.
Well that doesn't help when someone needs Optical and HDMI.VOOK said:
$10 it'll have something like this. (but with HDMI).
JWong said:Well that doesn't help when someone needs Optical and HDMI.
Oh, I realized that wasn't an HDMI in. Who knows what Wii U will do.FyreWulff said:On the 360, you can still use the HDMI with that plugged in. I'd imagine it would be a similiar situation on the Wii U
JWong said:Oh, I realized that wasn't an HDMI in. Who knows what Wii U will do.
Optical and HDMI is necessary for people with a PC setup.
Any random solid state power amp has huge open-ended gain and operates on a negative feedback loop that makes it practically impossible that the voltage at the output is anything other than a perfect scaling of the input voltage. Until it clips. Transformer quality means nothing to the sound. That's a power efficiency concern at best.lowrider007 said:I'm sorry but this is false, the quality of the components, transformer etc have a massive impact on audio quality, If you think the only thing you need to consider are the speakers when purchasing an audio system then your sorely mistaken.
*180 degree turn gif*Rolf NB said:High-end audio amps are a scam in itself. Analog audio circuitry has been a solved problem since the early 80s. Speakers are the only thing that you still need to think about for more than five seconds.
Rolf NB said:Any random solid state power amp has huge open-ended gain and operates on a negative feedback loop that makes it practically impossible that the voltage at the output is anything other than a perfect scaling of the input voltage. Until it clips. Transformer quality means nothing to the sound. That's a power efficiency concern at best.
I'm screwed then, I don't have a HDMI in/out reveiver =/Palette Swap said:Which won't get you 5.1 sound if the console itself only supports LPCM.
I really hope there is a complete overhaul of the cosmetics. The current version looks hideous.Ubermatik said:People, people - the WiiU design will have changed significantly for E3 next year.
Trust me.
H_Prestige said:I really hope there is a complete overhaul of the cosmetics. The current version looks hideous.
I think I have different ones for my PS3 (HDMI) and Wii (component) but as I said, neither techie nor audiophile so I usually just set up my stuff once and then be done with it.lowrider007 said:What I want is the ability to change and memerise the picture settings on each input, brightness/contrast etc.
YesDeaconKnowledge said:What's the issue here, analog only input again for Home Theatres if you connect HDMI with video?
Hey, I'm in the same boat. I love my receiver and don't see myself changing for one single console.TunaLover said:I'm screwed then, I don't have a HDMI in/out reveiver =/
Heck, I doubt I can even find one in my country without lose my right kidney. =/
Ghost_Protocol said:Hell no. And less than 1% of gamecube owners used the component video output, which is why they discontinued it in the later models.
Leondexter said:That's why they said they discontinued it, but that's "Nintendo Logic" for you. The cable was only sold at nintendo.com, which I'm guessing was (and is) responsible for less than 1% of sales of every single item Nintendo sells that's also carried in stores.
Fredrik said:I just noticed on the specs sheet and pics of the back side of the upcoming Wii U that they neither mention or show an optical audio connector or any other audio out connector.
They NEED to fix this.
Otherwise everyone without HDMI connector on their surround sound reciever won't get digital audio at all with Wii U. On 360 and PS3 they'll get beautiful DTS and Dolby Digital 7.1 sound etc. On Wii U they'll get analog stereo sound. Most people will probably just connect the HDMI in the TV and go with the TV sound.
I think this is unacceptable. They can't release a HD console in 2012 without some kind of digital audio connector except through HDMI. We can't all buy new sound recievers just to get Wii U to sound good.
Nintendo. FIX THIS!
Fredrik said:I don't get that. Personally I think the sound is just as important, if not more so, than the resolution that everybody is so interested in. People count the pixels on the screen when comparing PS3/360 games but they don't mind having the sound coming from the TV speakers. It's so weird. In my opinion it's the sound that makes the games come to life, makes the immersion better.
But... I guess I need to get used to wasting games like that if Nintendo don't bother including an optical audio connection. I won't buy a new reciever just for one console.
FyreWulff said:If you had a TV that was capable of component video when the GameCube came out, I'm pretty sure you'd also know where to get the cables.
Reallink said:LOLNO. The average consumer is a moron (see: hooking composite cables to an HDTV and declaring it's HD). Plenty of people had Component equipped displays throughout the GC era, they just had no idea what it did, or where/why they should buy the cables. Nintendo did a horrible job communicating and distributing them, end of story.
Well isn't your audio e-peen rather large. Keep on believing buddy.Dash Kappei said:I don't need to, that's the point.