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Is "March Comes In Like a Lion" worth watching?
I don't know anything about it other than it has a cool name and poster, and the main character plays shogi or whatever.

The general consensus here seems to be it started out good, then kinda stumbled, but finds its footing closer to the second half.
 

JulianImp

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I did like Mob more than OPM because the former does have a semblance of plot with actual character development in it, while the latter is mostly a gag manga with really cool battle scenes about an OP protagonist who can't find a worthy opponent. Early on, the artstyle in Mob kind of put me off, and the early episodes led me to thinking it was going to be more OPM, but once I got that Mob was still just a kid and couldn't reliably understand and control his powers and emotions the show really grew on me.

OPM's still an amazing action show, but I'm not really into one-note and/or gag series since the premise's novelty tends to wear thin after a couple episodes at best. It was entertaining enough for me to watch until the end compared to other gag series such as Sakamoto, but I'd still rank Mob over it because it actually had plot, and I'm a sucker for that kind of thing.


Regarding 3gatsu, does it ever get any better at not having LN internal monologues every other scene? I really liked how the first episode worked, and was really put off by the second one as it began giving us monologue after monologue, all while there was an awful lot of mood whiplash, which I abhor nowadays.
 

Kansoku

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Is "March Comes In Like a Lion" worth watching?
I don't know anything about it other than it has a cool name and poster, and the main character plays shogi or whatever.

For correct taste alignment, anime I recently liked: Mob Psycho, Ping Pong, Haikyuu, Erased.
Some of my favourite anime: Hikaru No Go, Planetes, Silver Spoon, Barakamon.

Yes. Absolutely yes.
 

Qurupeke

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Is "March Comes In Like a Lion" worth watching?
I don't know anything about it other than it has a cool name and poster, and the main character plays shogi or whatever.

For correct taste alignment, anime I recently liked: Mob Psycho, Ping Pong, Haikyuu, Erased.
Some of my favourite anime: Hikaru No Go, Planetes, Silver Spoon, Barakamon.

Yes, it's good. At first it seemed like it went nowhere and it was full of jokes that ruined the mood, but it has gotten much better. I'd say that since this season started I liked every episode. So try to endure the cat jokes.

Regarding 3gatsu, does it ever get any better at not having LN internal monologues every other scene? I really liked how the first episode worked, and was really put off by the second one as it began giving us monologue after monologue, all while there was an awful lot of mood whiplash, which I abhor nowadays.

Hmm, there are some very strong scenes with no monologues later, but the show still uses them a lot. However, the visuals usually are enough to make even those scenes interesting.
 
I'm not really trying to imply that Mob *should* to take up his arms and fight, as much as I loved the visualizations of violence in the show, I was at one level worried about Reigen's ideologies and how that would prevent Mob from unleashing his inner being in his presence in some way, worried in the sense that it would completely drift away from its core message. I would love it if it did resolve it through non-violent means and it did but it was just not convincing enough for me. From this discussion, it's clear my problems have more to do with its representation and lore behind the psychic powers than the actual message.

So I get clarification, is part of your issue with Mob Psycho 100 that you think the visualization of the violence glorifies it, making it look cool and desirable? Something akin to, say, Gunsmith Cuts? And hence the amount of effort going into the action animation goes against the idea that Mob shouldn't use his powers?
 

duckroll

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Tales of Zestiria the X - Episode 19

Yay, another Alisha solo ep! I enjoyed it but there isn't much to say since it's all setup. When the ED started playing early as a lead-in, I was really sad because it was obvious they were going to cut it off before the mission even started. :(

So with half the season over. Can game fans tell us if the story is on track to finish this season?
 
Saitama walking with a darken face leaving a defeated Boros behind with the godlike ost playing in the background made for one of my favourites moment of 2015. *You were too strong* gave me so many chills.

Saitama solitude at the top made for a strong moment.

One of the few anime fight I still rewatch once in a while.
 

kayos90

Tragic victim of fan death
Tales of Zestiria the X - Episode 19

Yay, another Alisha solo ep! I enjoyed it but there isn't much to say since it's all setup. When the ED started playing early as a lead-in, I was really sad because it was obvious they were going to cut it off before the mission even started. :(

So with half the season over. Can game fans tell us if the story is on track to finish this season?

It's going to be rushed to hell. When they ended the first season it was like 1/4 of the game. This is maybe like... 1/2?
 

Sterok

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Gundam Iron-Blooded Orphans S2 19

Macky, next time you lead a revolution, please come with a better argument than "I have a really cool robot". And if you do care about Almiria don't act like a creep in front of her now that she knows you're evil. Lots of people are finally realizing that maybe one guy shouldn't have been making all the decisions for Tekkadan. Including Orga, but they're committed now. This is only their last battle if they all die, which isn't happening quite yet, so they'll have one more conflict to go through before everything is finished. So, Atra gets the guy? Score one for her.
 

blurr

Member
That is not the main message or theme of the show though. It is only brought up as a way to show that Mob is not mentally strong enough to judiciously use his powers. Mob didn't suddenly have an epiphany and obtain inner peace because his arc is not finished, yet. Other than that, as I said, Reigen is not against violence so if you're trying to look at him for your answer to the dilemma then there you go; the show is pretty clear.

From what you've written regarding the series so far, it would appear that you believe series is advocating for pacifistic ideals. I don't think that's the case.

What the show is advocating is that Mob, an emotionally unstable child, shouldn't be using his terrible (and apparently) limitless powers to hurt and potentially kill other people. Mob unleashing his powers is not only potentially dangerous for his opponents, but for himself. That's not a path he has to walk down and, as Reigen points out, he has alternatives available such as running away from a fight.

Mob is not an adult. He is not in control of his emotions. He's also not in complete control of his powers. For all these reasons, it makes sense for him to avoid conflicts wherever possible.

It makes sense but I really felt Reigen's messages to Mob was directed more in general(to viewers) than something exclusive to him hence my impression that it is advocating to pacifism.

I've got a few thoughts about this:

- The idea that every major narrative event that happens in a story needs to proceeded by a Chekov's gun to set it up feels very weird to me. I don't think that's a standard that writers should held themselves to. Is it it necessary for every little thing to set up in advance? Doesn't that artificially limit creativity of the writer? What if they have a better idea later on that they never set up?

- The series never goes out of its way to explicitly lay down the rules regarding psychic powers. There's no Nen training sequence out of Hunter x Hunter, with nice clear guidelines about everything. There's consistency to how psychic powers are used within the universe, but beyond that ONE doesn't put any limits on them.

- Even if the series had made explicit rules about such matters, I think breaking them would have been worth it to achieve such a satisfying climax.

Not really 'every little thing' so much as establishing a basic idea about the plot device which is what I feel about that event, something fundamental to the piece of fiction the story builds on is being brought out abruptly, altering the climax of the story. The actual plot device doesn't matter of course but I don't think it needs to stand out so much as to alter the course of the story at its convenience than doing it convincingly. It winds back to the argument that its action moments are very engaging where its representation of psychic powers are visually and functionally diverse enough to warrant more lore building.

So I get clarification, is part of your issue with Mob Psycho 100 that you think the visualization of the violence glorifies it, making it look cool and desirable? Something akin to, say, Gunsmith Cuts? And hence the amount of effort going into the action animation goes against the idea that Mob shouldn't use his powers?

That's part of it, yes. It's something Jexhius addressed earlier:

I think this is a keenly made critique of not only this series, but any work which is 'anti-violence' but which nevertheless depicts violence in a really exciting fashion. There's a lot of offenders in this category, including the majority of 'anti-war war movies'.

Obviously, the biggest problem is that the series wants to be cool and entertaining, along with having a message. The creators can't stop themselves making these fights really cool and fun and neither can I stop myself from enjoying how good they are. I guess both I and them are just flawed in that way.
 
Tales of Zestiria the X - Episode 19

Yay, another Alisha solo ep! I enjoyed it but there isn't much to say since it's all setup. When the ED started playing early as a lead-in, I was really sad because it was obvious they were going to cut it off before the mission even started. :(

So with half the season over. Can game fans tell us if the story is on track to finish this season?
If they were following the game's playbook hell no, but they haven't been doing that for a while.

It's going to be rushed to hell. When they ended the first season it was like 1/4 of the game. This is maybe like... 1/2?

They won't need to adapt a lot of the game. Like all that shrine stuff that composes much of the last half. They've already restructured how pretty much everything happens. Though they'll probably continue to give everyone not named Alisha or Rose the short shrift.
 

Cornbread78

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Is "March Comes In Like a Lion" worth watching?
I don't know anything about it other than it has a cool name and poster, and the main character plays shogi or whatever.

For correct taste alignment, anime I recently liked: Mob Psycho, Ping Pong, Haikyuu, Erased.
Some of my favourite anime: Hikaru No Go, Planetes, Silver Spoon, Barakamon.


Yes, absolutely worth a watch.


It's more subdued than those other though.
 
I am really enjoying all these interesting takes on Mob and OPM.

Although, I feel like people don't give OPM enough credit for episodes and scenes were Saitama becomes the fall guy and becomes somewhat of a tragic hero. We see that he's not in it for the glory or fame or adoration of everyone. He's there to be a "true hero." The two scenes that exlemplify this with him is the one scene where everyone blames him for destroying some of the city (after saving everyone) and he lashes out so that he would take the fall. The other scene is with the Sea King and he makes it seem like every other hero weakened him and he swooped in at the last moment to "take the credit", even though all the heroes know that he took the Sea King down by himself.

While the show does use gags and jokes, it does have those moments where we do see the humanity of Saitama and where he does show the emotions he thought he lost.
 
Zestiria X 19

Not that I don't like how the anime is giving Alisha a ton more relevance compared to the games, but I really do wish Sorey and his seraphim weren't completely sidelined as a result. Feels so long where I actually thought Sorey was treated as the main character, though maybe next episode.
 
I am really enjoying all these interesting takes on Mob and OPM.

Although, I feel like people don't give OPM enough credit for episodes and scenes were Saitama becomes the fall guy and becomes somewhat of a tragic hero. We see that he's not in it for the glory or fame or adoration of everyone. He's there to be a "true hero." The two scenes that exlemplify this with him is the one scene where everyone blames him for destroying some of the city (after saving everyone) and he lashes out so that he would take the fall. The other scene is with the Sea King and he makes it seem like every other hero weakened him and he swooped in at the last moment to "take the credit", even though all the heroes know that he took the Sea King down by himself.

While the show does use gags and jokes, it does have those moments where we do see the humanity of Saitama and where he does show the emotions he thought he lost.

Deep Sea King was the best arc of OPM. I think the reason why OPM tends to get criticized in comparison to Mob is, from what was shown so far, the characters in OPM outside of Saitama, Genos, and maybe Mumen Rider don't really have a lot of depth to them.
 

duckroll

Member
Zestiria X 19

Not that I don't like how the anime is giving Alisha a ton more relevance compared to the games, but I really do wish Sorey and his seraphim weren't completely sidelined as a result. Feels so long where I actually thought Sorey was treated as the main character, though maybe next episode.

I don't understand this. I mean in this entire season, we literally had 6 episodes straight of Slay and Rose. One episode of Alisha and you're losing your shit?

?????????????????????????
 

Aki-at

Member
I am really enjoying all these interesting takes on Mob and OPM.

Although, I feel like people don't give OPM enough credit for episodes and scenes were Saitama becomes the fall guy and becomes somewhat of a tragic hero. We see that he's not in it for the glory or fame or adoration of everyone. He's there to be a "true hero." The two scenes that exlemplify this with him is the one scene where everyone blames him for destroying some of the city (after saving everyone) and he lashes out so that he would take the fall. The other scene is with the Sea King and he makes it seem like every other hero weakened him and he swooped in at the last moment to "take the credit", even though all the heroes know that he took the Sea King down by himself.

While the show does use gags and jokes, it does have those moments where we do see the humanity of Saitama and where he does show the emotions he thought he lost.

This is one of the reason why I absolutely loved One Punch Man, it was a very satisfying story arc that slowly built and climaxed with that scene, the music was absolutely spot on too. For making so many jokes at the normal framing of superhero stories, these episodes do well to frame what a hero is and what type of hero Saitama is, felt very heart felt especially at the end with Mumen Rider.

I read a bit further into the manga and whilst I'm sure they'll do justice on the chapter with King, I'm really hoping the chapter
Pork Cutlet Bowl
gets adapted too... It doesn't advance the plot but definitely fleshes out more the type of person Saitama, what his belief a hero is and how he reacts in a world that is slowly commercialising heroes.
 
The latest episode of Zestiria X has me hopeful that we might actually see Eizen purified. Having Zaveid tease it this late surely isn't without purpose.
 
Isn't her "complex" the whole thing about her wanting to play games when she was little? Pretty sure that was as far as it went.

I think you are trying to read between the lines here, but there's just nothing there. As a matter of fact, the same can actually be said about the lines that are there.

Show is pretty hollow. A solid 5 or 6/10, nothing more, nothing less. Aside from the occasional chuckle and the American pie-ism on some of the silly jokes, the show is pretty forgettable. Amagami this is not. I am disappoint.
 
I don't understand this. I mean in this entire season, we literally had 6 episodes straight of Slay and Rose. One episode of Alisha and you're losing your shit?

?????????????????????????

6 episodes of mostly Rose, you mean. Sorey himself only had slight relevance due to him meeting Mayvin and being influenced by the conclusion of Rose's backstory arc, and then Mikleo/Edna/Lailah even less so.
 

Sterok

Member
KiraKira Precure À La Mode 3

Pekorin already has no presence. Ichika just can't let people be alone. Aoi is easily the coolest one thus far. Not much of a cooking expert, but she's got nice music at least. Hopefully the villains start being characters soon. Gelato has an amazing transformation. Ice fists are great as well. I can accept no stock footage finishers if they take out all the monsters like that. Aoi must be a natural, because she had like no questions about any of this and figured out everything by herself.
 
I am really enjoying all these interesting takes on Mob and OPM.

Although, I feel like people don't give OPM enough credit for episodes and scenes were Saitama becomes the fall guy and becomes somewhat of a tragic hero. We see that he's not in it for the glory or fame or adoration of everyone. He's there to be a "true hero." The two scenes that exlemplify this with him is the one scene where everyone blames him for destroying some of the city (after saving everyone) and he lashes out so that he would take the fall. The other scene is with the Sea King and he makes it seem like every other hero weakened him and he swooped in at the last moment to "take the credit", even though all the heroes know that he took the Sea King down by himself.

While the show does use gags and jokes, it does have those moments where we do see the humanity of Saitama and where he does show the emotions he thought he lost.

Those moments are easily my favorite aspects of OPM. It's what gives it just enough heart not to feel entirely like a long running one note joke. I guess my overall take is that OPM is a very fun, lively series with badass visuals, and some chuckle worthy comedy, that I'd be happy to watch again
I rarely watch anything again, unless it's just on in the background.

Mob Psycho 100 took me quite a bit to warm up to. Even after episode 3 I wasn't entirely sold like most people. I think it wasn't until Episode 5 that I decided I actually liked the show and where it was going. Sometime in the later episodes I felt like it started to drag, and its commentary on the Shonen genre kinda stumbled into just repeating the same flaws the author has previously mocked. Overall I still think it's a good show, and offers more emotional depth than OPM, but I feel like aspects of its humor and characters don't jive with me. Reigen is one example. I like him in small doses, but sometimes the show overuses him, and sometimes he can feel very one note in the way he's used, although I really enjoy what the show does with him in the final episodes. That was very effective I feel.

But I've also read the OPM manga (The redo) and I have a semblance of an idea of where MP100 goes and taking that into account I'm more interested in the direction MP100 seems to go than where OPM seems to be ending up.

Overall I like them both, probably pretty close to equally, with each having positives and negatives over the other.
 

Cornbread78

Member
Fairy Tail ep.78
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This is a fun alternate world, well, unilateral they found Fairy Tail, lol. Now that was messed up.
 

dimb

Bjergsen is the greatest midlane in the world
Isn't her "complex" the whole thing about her wanting to play games when she was little? Pretty sure that was as far as it went.

I think you are trying to read between the lines here, but there's just nothing there. As a matter of fact, the same can actually be said about the lines that are there.

Show is pretty hollow. A solid 5 or 6/10, nothing more, nothing less. Aside from the occasional chuckle and the American pie-ism on some of the silly jokes, the show is pretty forgettable. Amagami this is not. I am disappoint.
If there's not some kind of twist I just don't understand the show at all. Like it is just super plain and has almost zero romantic vibes, and they just follow these arcs until they sputter out and the main character never even asks the girl out. Is that going to be the formula?
 
I see people talking about Yu Yu Hakusho and I'm just reminded that while the tournament was great, that I remember the emotional payoff of him coming
coming back to life
earlier wasn't as big as I was expecting, particularly with that whole opening couple of episodes where shit gets really dark.
 
If there's not some kind of twist I just don't understand the show at all. Like it is just super plain and has almost zero romantic vibes, and they just follow these arcs until they sputter out and the main character never even asks the girl out. Is that going to be the formula?
I wish it was more than that, but I think this is it. I was waiting for some kind of twist on the previous arc and... It just didn't happen. I bet you the same will happen with this one.
 

phaze

Member
Literally all the clues they drop are about the brother and the sister, and there's basically zero romantic stuff between the main character and the girl at this point.

She basically asked him out on the date in last episode, with both of them acknowledging it.

Other than, the ending of first episode what else was there really ? The brother complex could just relate to the gaming thing they reminisced about.



Naruto Shippuden 495


Basically a Naruto SD episode but with non-chibi designs and a good one at that.

Orochimaru strolling around with Yamato trailing him is a nice mockery of how that whole subplot ended.
 
Deep Sea King was the best arc of OPM. I think the reason why OPM tends to get criticized in comparison to Mob is, from what was shown so far, the characters in OPM outside of Saitama, Genos, and maybe Mumen Rider don't really have a lot of depth to them.

I think that's the shows strength, though, in that it does focus on the main characters, while setting up some big players for later. I hope they capitalize on those upper echelon heroes in the next season. Even then, some of the heroes in that echelon were getting some depth towards the end.

This is one of the reason why I absolutely loved One Punch Man, it was a very satisfying story arc that slowly built and climaxed with that scene, the music was absolutely spot on too. For making so many jokes at the normal framing of superhero stories, these episodes do well to frame what a hero is and what type of hero Saitama is, felt very heart felt especially at the end with Mumen Rider.

I read a bit further into the manga and whilst I'm sure they'll do justice on the chapter with King, I'm really hoping the chapter
Pork Cutlet Bowl
gets adapted too... It doesn't advance the plot but definitely fleshes out more the type of person Saitama, what his belief a hero is and how he reacts in a world that is slowly commercialising heroes.

I am really interested to see what they do with Season 2.

Those moments are easily my favorite aspects of OPM. It's what gives it just enough heart not to feel entirely like a long running one note joke. I guess my overall take is that OPM is a very fun, lively series with badass visuals, and some chuckle worthy comedy, that I'd be happy to watch again
I rarely watch anything again, unless it's just on in the background.

Mob Psycho 100 took me quite a bit to warm up to. Even after episode 3 I wasn't entirely sold like most people. I think it wasn't until Episode 5 that I decided I actually liked the show and where it was going. Sometime in the later episodes I felt like it started to drag, and its commentary on the Shonen genre kinda stumbled into just repeating the same flaws the author has previously mocked. Overall I still think it's a good show, and offers more emotional depth than OPM, but I feel like aspects of its humor and characters don't jive with me. Reigen is one example. I like him in small doses, but sometimes the show overuses him, and sometimes he can feel very one note in the way he's used, although I really enjoy what the show does with him in the final episodes. That was very effective I feel.

But I've also read the OPM manga (The redo) and I have a semblance of an idea of where MP100 goes and taking that into account I'm more interested in the direction MP100 seems to go than where OPM seems to be ending up.

Overall I like them both, probably pretty close to equally, with each having positives and negatives over the other.

I 100% agree with everything in the bold and is how I personally see Mob at the moment. As I said earlier, it took me until about episode 5 for it to jive with me and even then there were parts that dragged and characters that were overused and underused. In general, I think OPM is a better paced show with more depth than people give it credit for.
 
I'll give March [..] a try then, I'll be on a flight so it doesn't need to be that good.

It's been pretty good for the past I'd say 11-12 episodes. Episode 1 is great also. The problem is that some questionable direction choices make the show feel too unbalanced from episodes 2-8. And even those again, aren't bad, just a little bit all over the place with moments that go from dark to comedic within seconds without any kind of transition.
 
Yu-Gi-Oh! GX (Subtitled) Episode 71 – Versus Game Champ! B.E.S. Tetran, Launch

Im surprised they are still surprised when people just magically join the society of white, even when they undergo the magical hair change in front of them. I wonder when we will finally start turning the tide here. Its so interesting since Ive never gone this far in GX before.
 
Perhaps the most puzzling part of the comparisons between OPM and Mob Psycho is that sometimes they ignore the little fact of OPM being a comedy first. Yes, from time to time there are serious moments, but the jokes are the reason to watch it.

But of course I also have seen making 'power levels' with OPM characters, so I shouldn't be surprised.
 

Jex

Member
Perhaps the most puzzling part of the comparisons between OPM and Mob Psycho is that sometimes they ignore the little fact of OPM being a comedy first. Yes, from time to time there are serious moments, but the jokes are the reason to watch it.

But of course I also have seen making 'power levels' with OPM characters, so I shouldn't be surprised.

Yes, shounen fans are bad people whose opinions should largely be ignored.
 

Unit24

Member
My big problem with Onepunchman compared to Mob Psycho is that it doesn't have much progression to it. The current arc in the manga is getting stretched out way longer than necessary, and it's mostly been battles between characters I don't care that much about. Though I will admit, part of the problem is that I'm also caught up on the web manga, so I'm just waiting for the cool parts to finally happen.

I don't imagine Onepunchman season 2 will be as good as 1, but Mob Psycho season 2 will almost certainly be an improvement.
 

Cornbread78

Member
Death Parade ep.11
The hammer hasn't dropped on Decim yet, but seeing Chiyuki's past was pretty sad. The
skating
scene was beautifully done with the music playing in the background and the way it was presented.
 

Grexeno

Member
Dragon Ball Super 07

"Krillin why aren't you fighting."

"ChiChi, I'm Krillin."

Dragon Ball Z Kai: The Final Chapters 07

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Mobile Suit Gundam Unicorn RE:0096 07

Word words words technobabble technobabble technobabble

Hunter x Hunter 39

Kurapika's design literally got darker and edgier

Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex 03

When your obsession with your robo-waifu goes too far.
 
My big problem with Onepunchman compared to Mob Psycho is that it doesn't have much progression to it. The current arc in the manga is getting stretched out way longer than necessary, and it's mostly been battles between characters I don't care that much about. Though I will admit, part of the problem is that I'm also caught up on the web manga, so I'm just waiting for the cool parts to finally happen.

I don't imagine Onepunchman season 2 will be as good as 1, but Mob Psycho season 2 will almost certainly be an improvement.

That's also true, in fact I thought the next arc in the manga (from the anime POV) is worse because the author starts to forget the comedy's roots of his creation and makes a much more straightforward shonen arc, with multiple long fights, less humor, etc.
 
YGO 5D's Episode 67
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School arc? Sign me up especially for Lua in school outfit. I just wish he wasnt the joke of the school and the one everyone wants to duel because he is easy to beat :(

Oh well, hopefully he gets an awesome duel again after being inspired by Yusei.

Sly is a good addition to the cast, I wonder if he truly will take Stardust Dragon from Yusei.
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Thud

Member
Kaiji 16-22

ざわ・・・ざわ

E-card battle with Tonegawa. The stakes are pretty high for a season 1 show.
 

Jex

Member
[Gintama] - 323

Everyone moved in slow motion this week in order to keep the pacing of events down a bare minimum. In other words, tune in next week for the real fight.

Classic manga-to-anime adaptation pacing problem.
 

Shard

XBLAnnoyance
Mobile Suit Gundam: Iron-Blooded Orphans Season 2, Episode 19:

Well then, the series got kind of meta there with everybody being aware that this upcoming fight will be the final one. Also, wow, did Kudellia get written off in this season or what?
 
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