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Wonder Woman |OT| The World is Ready for You, Gal Gad [SPOILERS]
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Lights and Waves
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Yes, they even explain this.
NHarmonic.
Member
And the only picture she had with Steve.
That's what I thought lol.
Just thought it was an odd thing to say "they don't explain her outfit" and they pretty much say that, plus show vs. tell when Diana was messing around with the clothes.
Decent to good film. Needed about 20 minute cut off, but I enjoyed it. Gadot did better than anticipated and matched Pine very well. I was happy about that.
Film is basically their version of Captain America: The First Avenger and there's nothing wrong with that.
They did a shitty job of explaining her power. She had a bandage and blood from the first fight on the island, but later on is never hit by any bullets. Or shrapnel. Or anything.
Oh, also, she learned to fly when she discovered she was a demigod.
I'm okay with her being OP as hell, but at least build to it.
Spud's character, Charlie, isn't developed well at all. First he's a sniper who can't shoot anyone....then he's happy and can play a piano / is singing again....then he's blowing people away again at the end of the movie.
I can make up stuff to link these pieces, but it's it's just that, my own assumptions.
I didn't mind how Ares looked UNTIL they zoomed in on him. I just can't buy Ares looking like a weak guy with a weak mustache. He was a good actor, sounded great, but by no means looked the part after he transformed.
Also, I find it hilarious that Steve Trevor technically saved more people than Diana.
It's not, all those German soldiers / her own team saw her after Ares died and the sun came out and they all were happy they survived. It's also unlikely that all the soldiers from the trench died in that town.
The photo was important to her because it was a treasured memory for her, not because it kept her secret.
Film is basically their version of Captain America: The First Avenger and there's nothing wrong with that.
They did a shitty job of explaining her power. She had a bandage and blood from the first fight on the island, but later on is never hit by any bullets. Or shrapnel. Or anything.
Oh, also, she learned to fly when she discovered she was a demigod.
I'm okay with her being OP as hell, but at least build to it.
Spud's character, Charlie, isn't developed well at all. First he's a sniper who can't shoot anyone....then he's happy and can play a piano / is singing again....then he's blowing people away again at the end of the movie.
I can make up stuff to link these pieces, but it's it's just that, my own assumptions.
I didn't mind how Ares looked UNTIL they zoomed in on him. I just can't buy Ares looking like a weak guy with a weak mustache. He was a good actor, sounded great, but by no means looked the part after he transformed.
Also, I find it hilarious that Steve Trevor technically saved more people than Diana.
It's not, all those German soldiers / her own team saw her after Ares died and the sun came out and they all were happy they survived. It's also unlikely that all the soldiers from the trench died in that town.
The photo was important to her because it was a treasured memory for her, not because it kept her secret.
Inceptional
Member
I knew Thewlis was going to be Ares when they had that tride-and-true "secret bad guy playing a good guy" scene where Thewlis says for no reason whatsoever that they need to stand down from their mission. The only reason for it to be there is for the reveal later. It was still fun as fuck to see Thewlis' head on a cgi God of War body. I'm was almost thinking this was gonna disappoint in the action department until that last fight, which totally redeemed it. His disappearing act was cool as shit too!
Loved the movie by the way. I got surprisingly emotional and that rarely happens to me. If I had two complaints though, the first would be that some of the green screen was shoddy as fuck for a big movie like this. Second would be that it bothered the fuck out of me for some reason that none of the Germans noticed that Danny Huston fight in the watchtower...like what the fuck? Especially after the fight when she's just standing up there. I kept expecting them to attack but nope.
Or that someone would find that photo and be, like, "business woman from 2017, you look like this soldier from WWI, you're the same person!".
Lights and Waves
Member
...except that's literally what happened. Weee you paying attention? The movie does a perfect job of demonstrating how her powers grew from start to finish.
Was that learning to fly? I couldn't tell for sure. It seemed like it but then it didn't seem to continue. Or maybe I was confused as to what was her jumping and moving in slower motion. Like at the end I can't tell if she jumps off the building and the scene slows or if she is flying over the town in that pose.
I didn't like that Ares weapons were disintegrated before touching her. I guess it's a power of hers but I was lost on that.
Actually, speaking of the tiara, in the comics she can throw the tiara like a razor-sharp boomerang. I'm disappointed we didn't see that.
I believe that's a version of the cross-arm shield power she used to protect the guys from Doomsday's energy blast in BvS.
MHWilliams
Member
The tiara was from Antiope.
The costume was shown earlier and you actually see similar design lines repeated in Hippolyta every day outfit. The bird motif in particular appears in the armor form and in chest cutout in the film.
They hint at the W motif in the belt in the basic Amazon outfit.
Which is to say it's a shinier version of Amazon armor and Hippolyta's armor in particular.
The scene with her crawling up the tower is supposed to be showing her growing strength and godhood. The first scene with the bullets in London, he coming to terms with her enhanced reflexes and the bracelets.
Well there was all the Germans who saw her fight the literal God of War in front of em.
First time I saw it, I read it as her banishing her from the island.
Second time, I read it as a mother concerned that her daughter would die on her adventure.
Also rewatching the movie, I want... need a spin-off with Etta and Sameer and Chief. The side characters are so fun.
Agreed, they handled it poorly in the movie.
Yeah. Makes no sense as to why her power grew for no apparent reason.
Oh okay. I didn't see BvS. Alright so it's something people already know about. Glad to get the explanation. Thanks
MisterHero
Super Member
How does Wonder Woman get her hero name? And is it used often?
I feel like lots of cape movies have trouble using codenames in dialogue
I feel like lots of cape movies have trouble using codenames in dialogue
Pai Pai Master
Banned
Pretty good movie!
Ok, guess I'll need to rewatch it. Can't even recall her wearing it (though I'm sure if I see a pic of her she'll have it). Sad she died quick too.
MHWilliams
Member
Her mother pretty much says that she'd get stronger the more she was tested.
No one ever says "Wonder Woman".
Yeah, you can see it here.
Hurt and Scared
Member
Chris pine was great in this and a nice love story between Steven and Diana
I would love wall paper of the scene where she is holding up her shield between the two trenches
All in all a fun movie
Edit: no post credit scene
I would love wall paper of the scene where she is holding up her shield between the two trenches
All in all a fun movie
Edit: no post credit scene
SuperStiltzkin
Member
Really enjoyed the movie. Hated that it ended in a prolonged DBZ slugfest yet again. DC needs to get away from that.
I'm so glad we never got a "wow, you must be some kind of... of... wonder woman" kinda scene. Would've been so silly.
Would've been way better if the final fight scene was her fighting normal dudes like in the village scene and it was more about Dr. Poison. I liked it more when Ares was more of an idea or a concept than an actual person.
MisterHero
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Inceptional
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They dont really grow, I'd say it's more of a "the ONE" situation where once she realizes she's the "god killer" or whatever, she blocks the shrapnel with her mind Matrix-like Neo-style. I though that was cool though and loved how she layed the smackdown.
People might complain about the fact she's never directly hit with a bullet or shrapnel, which is pretty fucking lucky I'll give 'em that, but I'm glad they didn't bother with the "nursing back to health" bullshit we see in movies all the fucking time now.
Man, that final Pine stare into the camera was FUH-KING BUH-ROO-TAL! Then Diana going from raging apeshit to cool as fuck and killing a God literally with the flick of a her wrist. That's just amazing. Man, I'm loving this more and more with every passing minute.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
When Dapper Ares disappeared behind the glass, I thought, "oh cool he's more of a psychological villain." Then he put on his armor and I was like awww man. You never really wanna see Batman slug it out with the Joker. And Ares could have been a good recurring foil for her. Since you can never really eliminate war, it would have been a cool ongoing struggle for mankind's soul kind of thing like how the Joker wants to corrupt Gotham city.
beyond_death
Member
Yea was about to say this. I'd rather no mention of the name than some hammy way they might've incorporated it.
Shmeagatory94
Member
Really enjoyed the movie! But damn for some reason the fight with Ares just seemed so outta place for me lol in my opinion the cgi was pretty bad at some points but when she was fighting soldiers and the thugs it was great. This has made me more excited for Justice League.
Lionel Mandrake
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Just got out. I only have one immediate complaint...
Other than that, I was thoroughly entertained.
Ares having that same mustache in the flashback of getting struck down by Zeus.
Other than that, I was thoroughly entertained.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
What did you think "War. War never changes" meant?
Biggest-Geek-Ever
Member
He had a sick upper body back in the day, though.
brianjones
Member
it was fine.. gadot and pine were really charming
the third act is just such a buzzkill and really drags it down
too long
edit: side note fuck people who bring crying babies to the movie theaters.. either wait for the movie on redbox or get a babysitter
the third act is just such a buzzkill and really drags it down
too long
edit: side note fuck people who bring crying babies to the movie theaters.. either wait for the movie on redbox or get a babysitter
Inceptional
Member
I loved it, you people complain about these "slugfests" but that's what a lot of these comics were about, slugging it the fuck out in the end. I actually like that we get these "mano y mano" fights in DC films as opposed to the faceless horde of morons we usually get in a lot of these other superhero movies.
You at least have to not only respect the utter bat-shit craziness of putting Thewles' head on a cgi God of War body, but actually making it work somehow. The choreography was great and the upping of ante was just perfect. That slip'n slide she does knocking out like 30 guys at the same time was EPIC!
The way this universe handles codenames, it won't be some grand moment. The Flash will just call her Wonder Woman when they meet and that'll be that.
beyond_death
Member
I agree with you. You and I are probably some of the few who like over the top action to top off a superhero movie. To me a disappointing "boss fight" can leave abit of a sour taste in my mouth no matter how good the preceding stuff is. Iron Man 1 comes to mind. I hope JL delivers in that respect.
SuperStiltzkin
Member
We get one on one fights all the time in superhero movies, even Marvel ones, so I don't understand treating this like it's any different.
And a lot of movies have started to not do this just because it's so predictable and honestly boring now. Should've gave us a beam in the sky for shits and giggles, too.
Lights and Waves
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The No Man's Land fight is easily Top 3 superhero battles in comic movie history.
That moment of her taking the machine guns on with just her shieldTHAT'S what sold me. What a fucking hero!
That moment of her taking the machine guns on with just her shieldTHAT'S what sold me. What a fucking hero!
Hurt and Scared
Member
Also I'll admit I wasn't the biggest fan of gal gadot as Wonder Woman but she won me over
It's great seeing heroes being heroic
It's great seeing heroes being heroic
My favorite bit was the shot of her running on the roof while Steve ran parallel to her on the ground. Something about that just looked cool as fuck.
broncobuster
Banned
Whole No Man's Land's sequence is the most heroic and inspirational in superhero movies since since Spider-Man 2's train scene.
also, I don't know what's going on here
also, I don't know what's going on here
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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Something from volume 11 of the tomes of sexuality and anatomy.
JigglesBunny
Banned
This was fucking incredible. That No Man's Land sequence. The Mustard Gas bit. All of this was so fucking great.
This was legitimately Spider-Man 2 tier.
This was legitimately Spider-Man 2 tier.
-Plasma Reus-
Service guarantees member status
Gal Gadot is on Reeves level.
Holy shit.
Holy shit.
The George Perez run of the comics has my favourite explanation for the name, which is that the editor of the Boston Globe comes up with it after mistaking her costume's stylized chestplate for a W.
Inceptional
Member
Yea, there's a lot of little moments like that that I loved. Two that stand out to me are the shot of Pine dropping the bomb from the plane(even though it was cgi as shit) and the shot of Gal ramming the tank. She's so fierce in those moments and just stampedes through the scene, it's great.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Last night I fell apart
Broke from my swollen heart
Born in a simple time
Raised with the simple mind
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
I may be worthless without you
I'll never decide to replace you
Amen, the worst is behind us now
(Woman, woman) Oh
I may be worthless without you
I'll never decide to replace you
Amen, the worst is behind us now
(Woman, woman)
(Woman)
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
Last night I fell apart
Choked on my drunken heart
I may be worthless without you
I'll never decide to replace you
Amen, the worst is behind us now
(Woman, woman) Oh
I may be worthless without you
I'll never decide to replace you
Amen, the worst is behind us now
(Woman, woman)
(Woman)
You may be a natural woman
You maybe a natural woman, you! (Ah) You (Ah)
Who's that (Woman, woman)
Is that (Woman, woman)
Be my (Woman, won't you see me in the dark)
Who's that (Woman, woman)
Is that (Woman, woman)
Be my (Woman, won't you see me in the dark)
I may be worthless without you
I'll never decide to replace you
Amen, the worst is behind us now
(Woman, woman) Oh
I may be worthless without you
I'll never decide to replace you
Amen, the worst is behind us now
(Woman, woman)
(Woman, woman)
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
You may be
Watching this Friday night. BRING IT!
Broke from my swollen heart
Born in a simple time
Raised with the simple mind
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
I may be worthless without you
I'll never decide to replace you
Amen, the worst is behind us now
(Woman, woman) Oh
I may be worthless without you
I'll never decide to replace you
Amen, the worst is behind us now
(Woman, woman)
(Woman)
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
Last night I fell apart
Choked on my drunken heart
I may be worthless without you
I'll never decide to replace you
Amen, the worst is behind us now
(Woman, woman) Oh
I may be worthless without you
I'll never decide to replace you
Amen, the worst is behind us now
(Woman, woman)
(Woman)
You may be a natural woman
You maybe a natural woman, you! (Ah) You (Ah)
Who's that (Woman, woman)
Is that (Woman, woman)
Be my (Woman, won't you see me in the dark)
Who's that (Woman, woman)
Is that (Woman, woman)
Be my (Woman, won't you see me in the dark)
I may be worthless without you
I'll never decide to replace you
Amen, the worst is behind us now
(Woman, woman) Oh
I may be worthless without you
I'll never decide to replace you
Amen, the worst is behind us now
(Woman, woman)
(Woman, woman)
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
You may be a natural woman
You may be
Watching this Friday night. BRING IT!
The No Man's Land scene was fucking amazing.
Just felt good as fuck when she goes like 'fuck this, I'm saving those people on my own'. Her march towards battle is some of the mos heroic shit I've seen in comicbook movies.
the entire sequence was great, Diana showed that she is obviously powerful but didnt go overboard with her powers unlike Supes in MoS. Patty showed the constraint that Snyder lacks when doing these type of scenes.
Patty killed it, I hope it makes some bank because I'd like this creative team back for WW2.
Just felt good as fuck when she goes like 'fuck this, I'm saving those people on my own'. Her march towards battle is some of the mos heroic shit I've seen in comicbook movies.
the entire sequence was great, Diana showed that she is obviously powerful but didnt go overboard with her powers unlike Supes in MoS. Patty showed the constraint that Snyder lacks when doing these type of scenes.
Patty killed it, I hope it makes some bank because I'd like this creative team back for WW2.
JigglesBunny
Banned
Holy shit, first we became RefreshGAF brothers and now I find you pimping out AWOLNATION in OT?
