Maverick Hunter X was bone ugly, but it was one of the better playing X's to release since like ...X8 wasn't bad actually, lol.
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Would you buy HD Remasters... of 16-bit classics?
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Maverick Hunter X was bone ugly, but it was one of the better playing X's to release since like ...X8 wasn't bad actually, lol.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
The Japanese only PS2 remakes of 1 and 2 might interest you, they were originally meant to have a localization when IV was remade but unfortunately IV's remake fell through.
That looks bloody amazing.
That happened
Damn. If only I had a JP PS2. Or one of those swap discs that let me play JP PS2 games.
BTW, they're called Phantasy Star Generation 1 and Phantasy Star Generation 2, in case anyone was wondering. They're pretty cheap used on eBay (~$20). There's a walkthrough for the first game here.
They were working on a Sega Ages 2500 version of Bare Knuckle/SoR but it was cancelled when the line was discontinued.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
They were working on a Sega Ages 2500 version of Bare Knuckle/SoR but it was cancelled when the line was discontinued.
There's also Fighting Force, which began life as Streets of Rage 4.
HueyFreeman
Banned
Game's a shadow of the SOR series though. Keep it 2D scrolling.
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
There would be so much crying about how ugly the enhanced sprites look, it'd be pointless.
Because someone already got the license and needed to wait until all three remakes were out, only for IV's to never materialize and for that company (Conspiracy games I believe) to kind of go down the crapper. That, and Xseed came into existence right near the end of the PS2's life, I think their first games came out the same year the PS3 did.
EDIT: I'm correct about Xseed, looking at Wikipedia WA4 and Shadow Hearts: From the New World came out early 2006, which was ALSO just after the Xbox 360 released. We would've probably been lucky to have gotten WA5 if it weren't for the PS2 having absurdly long legs and lasting until about two years ago.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
I originally played this:
...then bought this
So to summarize yes I did, but it sucked
It's remakes like this that miss the point of why we loved the original in the first place.
Sure the gameplay was great and playing with your friends was a blast, but the main reason I personally loved it was because I had the cartoon in my hands to play with.
Why the hell are you going to shit up the cartoon with 3d visuals.
At the very least pull a Naruto and cel shade the 3D to at least resemble the 80's style Turtles cartoon. You'd think that would be first on the agenda if you weren't going to go with HD Sprites
...but somebody saw easy money... didnt even bother with the gameplay...
Lets make a Turtles in Time remake....
What do people love about the original...
its like playing the cartoon....
great.... lets throw out the cartoon and make it 3d
why are these people in charge of making decisions
toddhunter
Member
When I woke up this morning I didn't know this existed. Now I do but it does me little good.
WHY MUST YOU TAUNT ME SO!
Are we allowed to discuss about the SoR remake?
twisteddeeds
Member
Super metroid, or any of the "good" snes rpgs redone with the same engine of rayman origins...
I can only dream
I can only dream
BrownieVonTurdmeisterIII
Neo Member
Seeing these for the first time made me happy in my swimsuit area.
Gameboy415
Member
Are these still in production??
I remember hearing about these way back in 2009 but neither game has been released.
That happened
The graphics look really nice, apart from the changed character artwork... but man they really f'ed up on the music in the remakes!
jetsetfluken
Member
I see a lot of hatred for the TMNT XBLA/PSN "remake", but another one that gets forgotten is the terrible Rocket Knight Adventures "remake"/sequel for XBLA/PSN. Totally soulless.
Put a solid JP developer on a real Rocket Knight Adventures (Genesis) remake and it might have a chance.
To Far Away Times
Member
I think SF2 HD Remix is a great remake/update, but it's hated on these boards. =/
carbonbased
Member
if it involves replacing the original sprites in any way then no thank you. high quality re-releases in the vein of sonic cd are always welcome of course.
in fact i want the opposite of what this thread is focused on. i want entirely new franchises and sequels to old franchises done with the same lovingly detailed sprite art from that era. Gemini Rue is absolutely stunning and i am salivating at the thought of a new 16-bit sonic game using the retro engine.
in fact i want the opposite of what this thread is focused on. i want entirely new franchises and sequels to old franchises done with the same lovingly detailed sprite art from that era. Gemini Rue is absolutely stunning and i am salivating at the thought of a new 16-bit sonic game using the retro engine.
I'd love to see 16 bit classics done up like Spelunky, actually:
(Pic stolen from it's tread!)
But I'm always a fan of spritework, as well. I'd love to see really simple old-school games get HD Spritework (I think there's be a market for these things at 10 dollars, really), but I can understand that it'd be crazy to re-do lengthier games in such an "inefficient" artstyle, so Having bigger games redone in HD 2D handdrawn art work work, also.
And the originals should ALWAYS be included with such remakes, BTW. If at all possible! Would really help lower the "this isn't what I remember!" backlash rate, or at least still make people feel "well, I still got what I wanted, in the end!"
Switching gears, sometimes I think what gave these old artstlyes "Soul" is that they had a liveliness that exceeded your expectations. I mean, for all intents and purposes, the TMNT remake isn't totally soulless, but it's kinda just "average" 3D animation, in a world that's shown us the expressiveness of Pixar and Dreamworks 3D animations. It's not going above and beyond, just meeting the expectations.
Same way I feel about "flash" looking 2D animations. They look so sterile compared to the animated nature that old spriteworks characters (at their best) would have. There's such a concentration on character image detail, that motion gets to take a backseat. Surely unfortunate, as life through motion is one of the strongest elements of making something feel lifely and "soulful".
It'd be great to see the genre's of today get HD 2D mini-sequels in between big-budget releases, really. Let them play with all the particulars of the old eras; their personality, their fashions, soundscapes, writing, trends and tropes. It'd be very interesting to see what kind of mashups would result from such things.
(Pic stolen from it's tread!)
But I'm always a fan of spritework, as well. I'd love to see really simple old-school games get HD Spritework (I think there's be a market for these things at 10 dollars, really), but I can understand that it'd be crazy to re-do lengthier games in such an "inefficient" artstyle, so Having bigger games redone in HD 2D handdrawn art work work, also.
And the originals should ALWAYS be included with such remakes, BTW. If at all possible! Would really help lower the "this isn't what I remember!" backlash rate, or at least still make people feel "well, I still got what I wanted, in the end!"
Switching gears, sometimes I think what gave these old artstlyes "Soul" is that they had a liveliness that exceeded your expectations. I mean, for all intents and purposes, the TMNT remake isn't totally soulless, but it's kinda just "average" 3D animation, in a world that's shown us the expressiveness of Pixar and Dreamworks 3D animations. It's not going above and beyond, just meeting the expectations.
Same way I feel about "flash" looking 2D animations. They look so sterile compared to the animated nature that old spriteworks characters (at their best) would have. There's such a concentration on character image detail, that motion gets to take a backseat. Surely unfortunate, as life through motion is one of the strongest elements of making something feel lifely and "soulful".
It'd be great to see the genre's of today get HD 2D mini-sequels in between big-budget releases, really. Let them play with all the particulars of the old eras; their personality, their fashions, soundscapes, writing, trends and tropes. It'd be very interesting to see what kind of mashups would result from such things.
GreggTheGrimReaper
Member
Are these still in production??
I remember hearing about these way back in 2009 but neither game has been released.
I'm also wondering about that.
Their facebook page seems to indicate that it's still on the way: http://www.facebook.com/golgothstudio
What you're asking for is basically a remaster and not a remake.
carbonbased
Member
well "remaster" is the exact term used in the thread title so
