Mauricio_Magus
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I wouldn't give a shit, just give me awesome games and I'll be there.
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Would you still buy a NX if nintendo hides the specs again?
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anothertech
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Apparently based on the WiiU, specs matter more than the games for its success.
My WiiU has an incredible list of Nintendo games. But the 3rd parties offerings and sales numbers told the real story of this poor console.
I'll buy the NX, like every other console so far, but I won't pretend the specs don't matter.
My WiiU has an incredible list of Nintendo games. But the 3rd parties offerings and sales numbers told the real story of this poor console.
I'll buy the NX, like every other console so far, but I won't pretend the specs don't matter.
Linkstrikesback
Member
On the other hand, I don't even know if it'll be enough then. If the NX launches late next year it's still 3 years late to that party. They 'will need to do some serious legwork to get an install base that late in the game and to convince third parties to release stuff until then. Late batman ports (not the same content!) won't do the trick, and I hope they realise it.
Having comparable/more powerful specs would help, but I don't think that, solely, is going to suddenly convince third parties to throw everything they have at NX.
ninjablade
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lol there was a entire thread to find out the actual power of the gpu, long after the console launched, they were actually raising funds to do it, until a company did it for free, forgot the name though.
Zimmy68
Member
To everyone that says specs don't matter. That is a very short sighted approach.
If they release the NX with something like 75% of the Xbox One, sure they can make an amazing looking Mario game but they will be left behind by 3rd parties who don't want to develop games on slow spec machines.
So if you are happy with a short console lifetime and 1st party only games about twice a year. More power to you.
I want to be surprised with a console that has more power then one that was released 3 years ago, I don't think Nintendo can do it.
If they release the NX with something like 75% of the Xbox One, sure they can make an amazing looking Mario game but they will be left behind by 3rd parties who don't want to develop games on slow spec machines.
So if you are happy with a short console lifetime and 1st party only games about twice a year. More power to you.
I want to be surprised with a console that has more power then one that was released 3 years ago, I don't think Nintendo can do it.
I'm sure OP looks at the spec' and can tell if the system will handle dynamic shadow or not. He's an expert.
NeonZ
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Ps4-level specs at this point of the generation wouldn't help at all though. Why would anyone interested in 3rd party games go to the NX for 3rd party games rather than the Ps4 itself, which will have a larger selection by the time the NX launches? It'd be like the Wii U. Third party ports at launch, no one buys them, support evaporates. The only way specs would help here would be if Nintendo were actually already pushing next gen hardware (so, sub-PS5, rather than PS4+), and people had a reason to jump to the NX rather than the other consoles, but that will never happen.
Nintendo's best chance to get out of the Wii U hole is the whole portable/console shared library concept. It probably won't lead them to 1st place or anything, but it should help doing away with their image of software droughts and lack of support. If they can't do that, doesn't matter if the specs will be low or high, it'll be another Wii U.
NOLA_Gaffer
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Good games are more important than how powerful the hardware is.
The 3DS and Wii U are respectively the weakest in their class but contain some of my favorite experiences of the generation.
The 3DS and Wii U are respectively the weakest in their class but contain some of my favorite experiences of the generation.
Well, thats thank to their digital services
Which Nintendo has just started to get off the ground
They are like 10 years behind the curve
timetokill
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Exactly. Embarrassment is the furthest thing from the truth. Something not being a selling point doesn't make it an "embarrassment" except to fanboys.
The record-setting sales of the Wii had nothing to do with specs. The continued dominance of Nintendo's handhelds defied all "specs matter!" rhetoric. Specs only matter to a tiny fraction of the audience. The vast majority of consumers don't know the specs of their consoles.
In fact, this will probably be the first gen since the SNES when the superior-specced console will end up selling the most.
Eolz
Member
They didn't hide what the games looked like behind bullshots. That's the message they want to communicate: "Does the game look good/fun?", not " Hmmm, can a dev do this when I absolutely no idea".
As someone said before, you can't really tell what a console is capable of based on some specs only.
Specs are important to me to a degree. If the system is only on par with the PS4 then I may pass. But like with any system, it just needs to have a game I must have. Not sure what it would be for the NX since Nintendo hasn't wowed me for several generations but who knows. Show me a stellar update to WaveRace or 1080 and I certainly would consider it.
Well it's all linked, poor third party support means less games hence less variety and appeal hence less success hence wiiu again.
if you buy nintendo consoles just for nintendo games good for you but i have the impression that nintendo games are losing their "system selling power".
Maybe they won't make exclusives but multis and ports yes imo.
Papacheeks
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As long as there is a steady stream of games without long ass droughts like Wii u I'm in like flinn.
Kwansu Dudes
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I'd buy it if it were reasonably priced, wasn't a gimmick and had some good games besides your usual mario, dkc, etc. Sorry guys, but I do care about specs cause playing GZ at 720p is blurry and hurts my eyes.
Nintendo fans are going to buy the console. The real question is "will mainstream gamers buy another weak Nintendo system that will see barely any third party support of mainstream titles like Madden, CoD, Destiny, Fallout, etc?"
Nintendo is doomed to be a possible second console purchase if they can't figure that out.
Nintendo is doomed to be a possible second console purchase if they can't figure that out.
theangrypirate
Member
I won't. The WiiU sucks. It sits under my TV collecting dust. I have zero faith they will release great hardware so no way I'm gonna trust it without specs. Their games just aren't enough anymore.
ninjablade
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lol it's something i notice right away, i love realistic looking lighting in games,with dynamic shadows everywhere, i actually remember lighting making a huge difference for me since the ps2 era, ps2 games like gt3, and mugs made dreamcast look a generation behind cause of lighting. you really don't need to be an expert just have a good eye for detail.
Always-honest
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Sure. But i do hope they spec it nicely this time.
Not even the PS4 specs level?!
"Hiding the specs" like it's some kind of scandalous controversy, haha.
Having a powerful (or at least "capable") machine matters for the developers making the games, and if they make the games then the games are there and that's what matters to me. I don't give a shit if I personally never know what the NX system specs are. Hell I hardly even know what the specs of a PS4 are and I'll eventually pick one up because it has Bloodborne and a bunch of other games I really want to play.
Having a powerful (or at least "capable") machine matters for the developers making the games, and if they make the games then the games are there and that's what matters to me. I don't give a shit if I personally never know what the NX system specs are. Hell I hardly even know what the specs of a PS4 are and I'll eventually pick one up because it has Bloodborne and a bunch of other games I really want to play.
Specs influence the games which can be made for a system given development budget constraints. Games influence my purchase decision. I don't care if the specs aren't specified, I will care if they're lacking for the third time in a row.
If it's running an ARM processor when the rest of the AAA industry is writing for x86 then they might as well stick with the WiiU.
If it's running an ARM processor when the rest of the AAA industry is writing for x86 then they might as well stick with the WiiU.
schaft0620
Member
You will be able to get an idea of the specs by what X1 PS4 ports it gets
GhostTrick
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I care about games.
SatoAilDarko
Member
Of course.
Don't care about graphics.
Don't care about graphics.
People don't care about specs, people care about games. It's true most of the consumers are buying One and PS4 because they are considerably more powerful than the Wii U, but if you try to sell them the consoles talking about specs, most of them won't understand anything at all.
People want powerful consoles, and games that take advantage of that power. Knowing that the console is powerful and has great games is enough for the mainstream to buy consoles. Meanwhile, numbers are irrelevant.
People want powerful consoles, and games that take advantage of that power. Knowing that the console is powerful and has great games is enough for the mainstream to buy consoles. Meanwhile, numbers are irrelevant.
curiouscharles
Member
this time I really do care about specs.
MS and Sony are already on thin ice this generation (with me, not in general ;p) for pish specs, and my wii-u is a glorified dust collector.
Give me a decently capable machine or wave goodbye to my allegiance forever Nintendo.
MS and Sony are already on thin ice this generation (with me, not in general ;p) for pish specs, and my wii-u is a glorified dust collector.
Give me a decently capable machine or wave goodbye to my allegiance forever Nintendo.
ninjablade
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i disagree if a new console comes and has close specs to lastgen consoles in terms of power, you will see the same results for the most part, take wii and wiiu, there games don't look like a step up from there lastgen competition .
Banana Aeon
Member
I'll buy a NX when a new Metroid is released. No sooner.
I learned my lesson with the Wii U.
I learned my lesson with the Wii U.
Malcolm9
Member
I really can't see Nintendo going that far power wise, especially with the PS4 being the more popular console, but it needs to be on par or slightly better to be more relevant.
It's not about 1st place but at least people who buy the NX can have the confidence in knowing their favourite games will also be included ie FIFA, COD, AC etc alongside first party titles.