This still takes money out of their pockets.
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XB1 + Forza code = $399 @ Amazon
- Thread starter potam
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This still takes money out of their pockets.
Oddvintagechap
Member
Return? Rebuy?
Duxxy3
Member
As a PS4 and PC guy, I am very tempted by this. If I had the money, it would be ordered.
Forza 5, Killer Instinct, Ryse (rental) and Titanfall (on sale) make for a good line up. Also have Quantum Break and Halo 2 in the fall.
I wouldn't buy multiplatform games for it, but even I have to say that it's a good exclusive lineup.
It all doesn't go towards the Xbox brand. Sooner or later, their investors will start putting their feet down & say, "That's enough, you either spin the Xbox brand off, or you sell it."
Black friday: $399 + Forza + Ryse
Badlucktroll
Member
I am gonna stay away from the Bone as long as possible
Aquamarine
Member
February NPD:
PS4 - 269K
XBO - 258K
WIU - 82K
Lifetime NPD rankings:
1. PS4 Lifetime NPD sales = 2.54 million
2. Wii U Lifetime NPD sales = 2.23 million
3. Xbox One Lifetime NPD sales = 2.22 million
I have no doubt Wii U will drop to third place in March...
But Microsoft would have to sell at least ~320K more than Sony in March NPD to surpass the PS4...and I'm really not sure that we'll see that big of a discrepancy in March, even with Titanfall / all of these discounts, because of the launch of Infamous and the focus on stock priority for March.
soundscream
Member
Link says $479 and it ships and is sold from Mango Wireless
jadedm17
Member
This never stops getting funny.
Things drop in price guys - my 1080p 60" Plasma cost less than my 720p 42" Plasma. Deal with it.
travisbickle
Member
MS never appeared to do the big sell at the $499 price point. Remember when everyone last year was telling us consumers don't want just a games console? I never saw a big push from MS to promote that, instead within a few months they're dropping the price in their strongest territory.
And now I am filled with regret.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
The Maverick
Member
I don't see how that relates at all.
I know. I obviously didn't really want it since I let it sit in my card and didn't buy...but now that it's gone: sadness
Oddvintagechap
Member
what is taken away by xbox live gold?
Since ima not interested in a xbox one for its games rather its media functions.
Since ima not interested in a xbox one for its games rather its media functions.
The Maverick
Member
You'd have to ask what isn't.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Pretty much everything, you can play blurays though and watch tv.
if you want it for the media functions XBL Gold is basically a requirement...outside of games and blu-ray movies...just about EVERYTHING else is behind the paywall...
yes. the price is fixed to 450$. it seems it was an error and MS isn't willing to sacrifice that much to catch with the PS4 sales lol
SwiftDeath
Member
I don't see any value in getting an XB1 for its media capabilities unless you were willing to buy gold for however long you were planning on using it for its media capabilities
Apps [netflix etc.], Internet browser, TV guide is all behind the paywall
MaulerX
Member
That's actually a nice summary. Pretty close actually. Makes you wonder:
A. Where would sales be if Sony had more PS4's in stock?
B. Where would sales be if XB1 had launched at $399?
Galactic Barret
Member
Hurry! Get it before it sells out!
Its gone.
Its gone.
tiny raptor
Member
The next RARE game! yaaaaay
*yet another reminder of what Rare is sets in*
._.
Not me. I'd play Forza a bit then put it down in a flash because I get tired of sim racers, and most of them don't feel much different, so if I needed one I could get on PC or just wait for Drive Club. I tried Ryse at a friend's (meh). I have Titanfall on PC.
Is QB in the Fall? That game...could be good.
Slayer-33
Liverpool-2
Very interesting questions but they way things have played out I think benefit MS.
I'm surprised how well this $500 console has sold. Given the negative views on Kinect and less power. When it becomes concrete $399, $350 it will keep momentum.
Speaking of the U.S market of course.
DOWN
Banned
That actually seems smart of Microsoft. Take a bigger loss than they already were taking on each system, but get your user base much larger for the long run and for the sake of not having to be so far behind PS4. It would make their marketing and software sales future a lot brighter if they could just sort of shove a ton into the market fast at a loss here and there.
Galactic Barret
Member
Like...PS3?
Aquamarine
Member
Take a look at the growing discrepancy between PS4 and XB1 USA sales:
LTD as of November 2013:
1) Wii U - 1.62 million (+0.48 million from PS4, +0.71 million from XBO)
2) PS4 - 1.14 million (+0.23 million from XBO)
3) XBO - 0.91 million
LTD as of December 2013:
1) Wii U - 2.10 million (+0.10 million from PS4, +0.28 million from XBO)
2) PS4 - 2.00 million (+0.18 million from XBO)
3) XBO - 1.82 million
LTD as of January 2014:
1) PS4 - 2.27 million (+0.12 million from Wii U, +0.31 million from XBO)
2) Wii U - 2.15 million (+0.19 million from XBO)
3) XBO - 1.96 million
LTD as of February 2014:
1) PS4 - 2.54 million (+0.31 million from Wii U, +0.32 million from XBO)
2) Wii U - 2.23 million (+0.01 million from XBO)
3) XBO - 2.22 million
There's a quantifiable 0.2-0.3 million gap that was wedged between PS4 and Xbox One sales from the outset. I firmly believe this is due to the PS4's $100 cost savings and the perceptions about its power. All of that negative PR didn't help much either.
Personally I believe Xbox One had the better launch lineup, and the Xbox brand is much stronger in the USA (for comparison, 360 has sold 41.2 million units in the USA while PS3 has only managed 25.7 million).
Once Microsoft corrects the price down to $400 with no game...vendors are already flirting with the $400 price in various ways...I think we'll see some interesting things happen in terms of marketshare.
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Except PS3 was way more obvious because they were a year late and far over their competitors. The one people wanted was $599 with no games bundled. Their SKU changes were a must because they were just plain off the mark.
Clearly it's different in this case when Microsoft hasn't done an official price drop and isn't technically behind, but are quick to try bundles and promos in North America.
I'm not saying taking a loss is a new idea, as both systems are sold at a loss currently. I'm saying that Microsoft handling their losses in bursts this early seems like it could pay off.
travisbickle
Member
This is crazy!!
There must be some people within MS (naming no names) that would have said "there's no way we are giving up our 30% lead to Sony next gen!"
DOWN
Banned
Microsoft screwed themselves on marketing (I didn't mind it, really, as they were trying to adjust for digital-only by giving ways to let people move a digital copy around as there is no good way to do that right now without you being the one playing it). And they feel the need to at least see Kinect through one universal system cycle where devs have the incentive of every player owning one to make innovations for it (they learned the hard way that devs didn't like Xbox's having removable hard drives since it fragmented the player base).
If I weren't broke I can't lie also as a PS4 guy I am missing out on some KI and Quantum Break. Seeing as I can't afford it though still best I wait till the price is $300 however long that takes.
sixteen-bit
Member
Price drop incoming?
Ken Masters
Banned
Those day 1 buyers lol
And people thought I was crazy saying I'll wait for a $299 deal THIS YEAR
And people thought I was crazy saying I'll wait for a $299 deal THIS YEAR
AdmiralSnackbar
Member
Getting real hard to hold out for that dark green console bundle....
Fox Mulder
Member
has to be. No way they can go back to $499 with nothing after bundles and retailer drops.
just getting rid of the price gap will make the rest of its flaws matter less.
$399 with a game is a great deal, would love if that's the regular price.
On this note, I will buy a $25 Forza code from someone if they have one.
Going back to 499, even with the Standard Edition being bundled with Forza, would be a huge mistake. There have been way too many deals, discounts, and "pricing errors" at this point. Anyone who didn't bite on the console this month will simply wait until a permanent cut is made. Will be interesting to see what MS does.
If it still was $400 with Forza, I think it's more value bro. Console + game + kinect > console