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[PBY]

See we have problem with you using the word "faith". You could have said the same thing like this: "I'm sure MS legal department has not done anything illegal." Most of us would have agreed with you. But when you use the word faith we just find it so fuck'en bizarre.

When you are outside MS looking in you don't use the word faith. MS executives have faith in MS legal. Xbox owners should not have "faith" in MS legal.

Thats your problem then dude, faith is a perfectly normal term to use in terms of my thoughts on their competency.

You're the one bringing in all these external notions, but I'm not trying to get into a semantic argument over "faith" vs "sure"

 

[kadotsu]

XB1M13

i think we need an NZ ps4 stock update?

Someone fill me in on the NZ PS4 stock meme, please!

 

[enzo_gt]

That legal agreement is shady as fuck. When will you learn Microsoft, jesus. Throw your consumer relations department out the window and start again.

 

[Lautaro]

Xbone is the greatest thing in the universe.

I accept cash or paypal no bitcoin.

I'm cheaper. I accept Dogecoin.

 

[TheSpoiler]

Hmm.

MY SIDES

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

So, Jschreier, how about that article now.

Tick tock.

 

[Copenap]

Stay classy Microsoft, though the people accepting these terms should be even more ashamed of themselves.

 

[reptilescorpio]

Microsoft are quite good at buying their way out of trouble so this isn't shocking.

Glad to see games media taking them to task on it.

 

[BoboBrazil]

Not a surprise. MS pays off publishers, press, retailers, and viral marketers to come on places like here and reddit. Why shouldn't they pay youtubers too?

 

[Uno Venova]

he probably love it, though.

Honestly in this case, it's pretty much a reward to match the shirt, wallpaper, lanyard, and posting history.

 

[BPoole]

Microsoft is diseased. Rotten to the core. There's no saving it - we must pull it out from the roots. Wipe the slate clean. Burn it down!

 

[Y2Kev]

Of course Gies and Kuchera are against this. This effectively makes them middlemen.

Why should I bribe the expensive, jaded, cynical, ineffectual "enthusiast press" when I can pay a bunch of internet hypemen THREE WHOLE DOLLARS and they'll do whatever I say?

Oh, yes, please think about the REAL press!

 

[Messypandas]

It was actually pretty genius of MS to offer such a laughable pittance in respect to all the videos that would inevitably be made they wouldn't even need to pay for. Fake it til you make it.

 

[Odrion]

Don't they still need to tag their videos with "XM1M13"? Not that hard to figure out whose lying to your face.

 

[Osiris]

He totally missed the boat man. He had people begging him to write a story about this a few days ago, he could have "broke" this story in a sense. Now, he will just be coat tailing the story, I think he missed his chance.


Too bad he had too much on his plate, I love his writing.




EDIT: Looks like he IS doing something, I just wish he would have jumped on it sooner. However, I know he was busy.

I don't think he would have had a story without the agreement to be perfectly honest, it was the final piece of the puzzle and I feel for him because it was the only aspect that made the difference between a lame story that was premature and a proper scoop, but at least he was considering it, and that deserves recognition, I feel for you Jason, such is the life of press huh?

 

[KoopaTheCasual]

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/11/sony-marketers-are-horrible-liars-pretend-to-run-fansite/

Thread whining and thread derailing in the course of 10 minutes. Might wanna slow your roll.

 

[BrokenIcarus]

This is an outrage, I have no words for anyone trying to downplay this...

 

[oconnomiyaki]

i think we need an NZ ps4 stock update?

Can only do Wellington, sorry. They had 15 in there when I went in on Sunday. Picked up a Freeview receiver with HDMI to run through the Xbox One. It didn't work. I had a massive vent on Xbox's Facebook page.


But yup, I'm totally just out to defend Microsoft and shit on Sony. We all know that corporations are like sports teams. >_>

 

[Finalizer]

he probably love it, though.

Tag's been a long time comin'.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/11/sony-marketers-are-horrible-liars-pretend-to-run-fansite/

Pray tell what Sony has to do with the topic?

Oh, right, it's that useless defensive reaction I talked about earlier.

Knock it off if you're just going to get upset that people will call out MS for pulling bullshit when they do.

 

[Jburton]

Old news. Just an example that all companies will pull this shit. MS just got caught, just like Sony did.



Is this going to be the tagline for dismissing corporate shittiness when we like them?





It depends on how it plays out. If it turns out that they are asking you to say something positive, then that's obviously crossing the line. If they just want you to feature some footage, then it's more grey.

I can obviously understand they don't want to pay you for shitting on them, and I said that earlier. But I don't think they should be expecting praise. The guidelines are pretty vague, so it's hard to tell.

I can tell why people are upset, but pretending it's just Microsoft who does this kind of thing is silly.

Nobody is pretending only MS have / are doing this ............ that's a narrative only playing out in your head ........ all that says is that this news (hence it being a big deal, this is now ...... Sony got shit on in 2006, they do similar shit now then it will be news again and they will get shit on too) offends your own particular bias .......


....... therefore we get the look others do this too, can we stop hating on MS.



This is low and they are being called out, anyone defending them in whatever guise will certainly be noted by me as being dubious in nature ....... whether that's a shill or just a fanboy.


Inexcusable back when Sony where found out, and inexcusable now in regards to MS.

 

[Nokterian]

Hmm.

Oh god amazing!

 

[chubigans]

Honestly in this case, it's pretty much a reward to match the shirt, wallpaper, lanyard, and posting history.

Needs a new avatar. Maybe something like this:

 

[Dennis]

ahahaha, wow

Integrity, get some


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Two Worlds II™: Game of the Year Edition - on sale now!

 

[IvorB]

"Online hate needs to go away [and we will pay you to make it happen]"

- Major Nelson

They put their money where their mouth is. At least that's something...

 

[stktt]

RadBrad no! I trusted you! I trusted yoooouuuuuuuu...

...to tell me about all the great features of the new XBox One!

It's not too surprising, considering he's already done similar things for Ubisoft and Techland, but it's still disappointing.

 

[EMT0]

Man, this is going to be one hell of a week. I can feel it. Keep burning whatever goodwill you had left, MS.

 

[Odrion]

edit: nah

 

[Einbroch]

Hmm.

But he'll like his tag. Should've made it about the PS4.

 

[bigboss370]

this thread man, this thread.

 

[RealityPales]

Add that one to the list of reasons I don't do business with Microsoft these days.

 

[Zemm]

I don't see how they're hiding it when they need to tag the videos with XBM13 or whatever it is. There's no way I'd take those videos seriously though.

 

[benny_a]

Someone fill me in on the NZ PS4 stock meme, please!

There is no meme. Retailers are begging people to buy the PS4 as they are rotting on shelves. It's just a #NPDFact

 

[oti]

I wonder how many "marketeers" has Microsoft hidden in Neogaf.

The fellowship of the GAF broke apart.

 

[KINGofCRA5H]

please forgive me, can someone explain this?

 

[The Hermit]

Microsoft is diseased. Rotten to the core. There's no saving it - we must pull it out from the roots. Wipe the slate clean. Burn it down!

I hear that before... oh yeah!

<3 Platinum

 

[alr1ght]

Needs a new avatar. Maybe something like this:

He already had an avatar of him sleeping with it.

please forgive me, can someone explain this?

After all the DRM nonsense came out, masses of juniors were defending the policies hard. Bish checked all the accounts and a bunch of them were paid astroturfers.

 

[dragonbane]

I enjoy some of their games, that's not nothing

We would already have Alan Wake 2 hadn't MS botched the release and marketing of Alan Wake 1 so badly...

 

[Finalizer]

Someone fill me in on the NZ PS4 stock meme, please!

Start here. Have fun.

 

[Aquamarine]

I don't see how they're hiding it when they need to tag the videos with XBM13 or whatever it is. There's no way I'd take those videos seriously though.

It's a random tag. People who are not cognizant about the campaign will have no idea that they're being paid to be Microsoft shills.

 

[FiggyCal]

Of course Gies and Kuchera are against this. This effectively makes them middlemen.

Why should I bribe the expensive, jaded, cynical, ineffectual "enthusiast press" when I can pay a bunch of internet hypemen THREE WHOLE DOLLARS and they'll do whatever I say?

Oh, yes, please think about the REAL press!

It reminds me of a U.S. governor who ran with the promise of making the state a safer place for children and to crackdown on pedophiles and make tougher pedophilia laws. Little did we know that he had inappropriate interactions himself with an underage boy. The situations are entirely identical.

 

[Zabant]

Of course Gies and Kuchera are against this. This effectively makes them middlemen.

Why should I bribe the expensive, jaded, cynical, ineffectual "enthusiast press" when I can pay a bunch of internet hypemen THREE WHOLE DOLLARS and they'll do whatever I say?

Oh, yes, please think about the REAL press!

Well said.

 

[chubigans]

He already had an avatar of him sleeping with it.

...what

 

[KimonoNoNo]

Microsoft's PR department as the news got out.

And the Major's response.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

Hmm.

He probably enjoys it. MS products are plastered all over the screens he says he uses.

 

[Parakeetman]

please forgive me, can someone explain this?

Whats there to explain? Bish went on a mole hunt and napalmed the whole tunnel network.

 

[GeoramA]

Wow are you kidding me??? At least it's finally all out in the open.

 

[TetraGenesis]

What did I say? What did I say!?

Nailed it!

 

[Zeouterlimits]

he probably loves it, though.

Took long enough.

Speedy was moaning only yesterday about how it's the lame self advertisers who get all the views and then are more likely to get paid.

 

[Quadraphonic]

I don't see how they're hiding it when they need to tag the videos with XBM13 or whatever it is. There's no way I'd take those videos seriously though.

Even if they had the tag or not, the fact the agreement specifically tells them to AVOID saying it's a sponsored campaign makes it illegal.

 

[Vlade]

I don't see how they're hiding it when they need to tag the videos with XBM13 or whatever it is. There's no way I'd take those videos seriously though.

hiding it is part of the agreement

edit: i'm slow