The major restriction will probably be only one person can use that game at a time.
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Xbox One: Details on Connectivity, Licensing (24 hour check-in) and Privacy Features
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The major restriction will probably be only one person can use that game at a time.
mediapulp_wes
Member
Put this together to educate your not so tech savvy friends
A tad biased, a more balanced view would be.
You cannot:
* Continue to play games offline, unless you connect to the internet once every 24hrs
* Disconnect the Kinect sensor, but you can turn it off
* Lend games at launch, but you will eventually be able to do this with friends and family
* Rent games at launch, but we're looking into a solution for this
* Sell or trade games at any store, only pre-approved retailers (chain or independent) are permitted
* Sell games to individuals, unless they've been on your friends list for more than 30 days
To be honest out of the above, only the renting and selling to individuals issues bug me. Unfortunately the non-renting may prevent me buying an Xbox One.
And no online check every 60 minutes when playing a game on another PC.
RedNumberFive
Banned
It needs to be cleaned up a bit, then printed and placed all over town. I fully intend to do my part.
Well I don't believe that my 3 friends represented the mass market in reality as a whole, I just happen to think that the mass market won't care and anecdotally mentioned my friends.
Microsoft doesn't consider the customers without internet as part of their pie anymore. They are not profitable to the new business model they are pursuing, with increased profits from their DRM and premium cloud network (that they will surely charge you money for) and their happy relations with publishers.
Microsoft's message is loud and clear: "We don't need nor care about the consumer without internet."
Think about it. I'm sure their most profitable ventures in Xbox come from digital sales and XBL memberships. They don't care to lose the amount that didn't have internet when there is so much more, in their minds, to be gained by chasing a new business model.
This kind of thing is not uncommon. Progressive Insurance, for example, turns away customers they don't want (i.e. are not as profitable) by telling them "hey, your rates will be lower if you go to insurance company A or B instead". Companies turn away undesirable customer markets all the time.
That seems to be what's happening.
krypt0nian
Banned
Perfect.
SenatorBot
Member
Can someone just replace every time they say DIVX with XBONE?
I think it'll just be about perfect as a parody video.
Suburban_Nooblet
Banned
Playing devil's advocate, because I hate to see the overreaction:
-I can almost guarantee they will work out rental deals with redbox, blockbuster, gamefly, etc. They would be foolish to leave money on the table.
-Put a piece of tape over the kinect sensor if you don't want MS to see you in your underwear. It's not like they'll be recording you on some server. relax.
-24 hours of offline play: If your internet is down for more than 24 hours get a new provider. My PC is always online and that's where I game the most. You're not taking the xbox out of your house to go camping so what is the problem?
-You can still trade a game to a friend. Once it's theirs, who cares what happens to it next. And there will still be avenues to sell your games. Amazon, gamestop, CeX... they'll all be there.
-Sharing all your games among 10 people = amazing. I can see 10 of my gaming friends and I working out a system of who buys what. That's 9 less games we each have to buy. Makes up for the lack of trade-in.
Best Post Ever.
It's incredibly saddening.
publishers aren't going to not release a game because it doesn't have DRM
they would lose more profit than the DRM would supposedly lead to
Don't worry, MS invested 1 billion in games, you'll forget about this in no time!
(SARCASM)
The biggest thing is that Steam isn't the only way to buy PC games. PCs are an open market, if Steam starts up the bullshit people can migrate their business to somewhere else. The Xbone is completely closed to competition, M,icrosoft runs the show. Steam has sales because of competition, not because it solely exists online.
SRTtoZ
Member
Its more than that. The mods have been keeping eyes on these people before all this. If you check out their post history its AGENDA driven bullshit. Its one thing to have an opinion on a certain matter, its another to blindly defend them in every single post regardless of whats being said.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
Where are all the people who were supporting this crap because it meant the big bad boogeyman called Gamestop would get undercut? From the sounds of it, this plan pretty much stamps out what little competition they had.
Baller. PhD
Banned
Well, over 2 of my last 5 years were spent in Afghanistan where I didn't have Internet. You know what there is to do in Afghanistan when you're not getting blown up or taking a shit? Play video games.
Playing devil's advocate, because I hate to see the overreaction:
-I can almost guarantee they will work out rental deals with redbox, blockbuster, gamefly, etc. They would be foolish to leave money on the table.
-24 hours of offline play: If your internet is down for more than 24 hours get a new provider. My PC is always online and that's where I game the most. You're not taking the xbox out of your house to go camping so what is the problem?
-You can still trade a game to a friend. Once it's theirs, who cares what happens to it next. And there will still be avenues to sell your games. Amazon, gamestop, CeX... they'll all be there.
-Sharing all your games among 10 people = amazing. I can see 10 of my gaming friends and I working out a system of who buys what. That's 9 less games we each have to buy. Makes up for the lack of trade-in.
Edited and answered in order
-Doubtful.
-I take my xbox on vacation all the time. At night I hook it up and play it before hitting the hay. Can't do that anymore. As I said before there are troops overseas who don't have a stable internet connection. That means no Xbone. 31 million consumers never hook up their consoles. They just threw away 31 million sales.
-I let my friends borrow games all the time. Now I can only give it away and once it is gone I have to repurchase the game if I still want to play. I just wanted my friend to try a new game!
-Same IP address most likely. So unless all your friends live in the same house you will have find another exploit.
I'm primarily interested if the account has to be on the same console.
TheChewyWaffles
Member
How? How is it any better than what we already knew? I want to know.
All the time. Never took my xbox with me. 3DS, laptop, deck of cards, pen and paper, and the list goes on. Who travels with their xbox unless it's a tournament of some kind or lan party? And in that case there would be internet anyway.
tonkatsu_ramen
Member
So if I am reading this correctly. It is possible for my friend and I to create a "family" account and simply split the cost of a 60 dollar game.
That actually might not be so bad. However besides that, I'm not liking the other stuff (24 hour login,etc)
That actually might not be so bad. However besides that, I'm not liking the other stuff (24 hour login,etc)
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
Banned
No offense, but there have been many many times that ive considered you to be one of the biggest corporate shills on this board that im aware of. For you to think this is stupid speaks volumes.
(I don't think that anymore, I don't agree with you but I accept that you a developer that is frustrated that others profit off your work more than you do, which is understandable.)
At least we can agree this is not the answer.
RedNumberFive
Banned
I was excited/curious to see what Microsoft had in store for E3, but I just don't give a fuck anymore. They could announce Shenmue 3 and a new 2D IGAvania, and I would still tell them to get fucked.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why did MS confirm this? What the hell are they thinking? They keep laying out the cards like amateurs here.
Colonel Nasty
Member
So what? People around here aren't Sony shills? I don't get why having a minority opinion is bannable?
Barack Lesnar
Banned
Family accounts only on your console. They check to make sure it's the same console (I'm guessing via MAC address or some other fancy method).
semiconscious
Member
it's a pretty prevalent model: gouge today, & worry about tomorrow tomorrow...
dskillzhtown
keep your strippers out of my American football
Let's see if Sony has the same restrictions. If so, the publishers have really made a big gamble with this next gen. Not saying that the gamble won't pay off, but it is a gamble.
No doubt we will see Sony implement the same thing now.
I'm really surprised Microsoft stuck with the 24 hour thing. They better hope a significant amount of the people with 360s are currently unconnected by choice and not because they lack reliable Internet. It doesn't effect me, but its a pretty freaking retarded business move IMO.
I'm pretty sure it does, they were very explicit to say "any one" instead of anyone. So any 1 person can be accessing your shared libary at a given time. It's pretty clear to me from what they stated that simultaneous access to the shared library from multiple consoles won't be permitted.
Their first party games will probably be completely open because they don't want to be the bad guys.
Audioboxer
Member
This actually feels like a horrible nightmare having all of this actually confirmed. I seriously hope one week will not flush the whole industry into a shit pit.
-Put a piece of tape over the kinect sensor if you don't want MS to see you in your underwear.
lol. Or I could just not buy it.
In conclusion, the Xbox One should be called the Xbox Can't or Xbox Zero. It is the most anti-consumer console ever produced.
I would never buy a console that limits me so much. And the limitations don't make any sense. It's just DRM > customers. And if a producer choses that path, consumers should look at other products.
These confusions and many statements are absolutely wanted. Because it lets some people hope, other people don't care and some people wouldn't believe it.
I can only say: Do not support companies that want to dicate to you the way and the time you play your games.
I would never buy a console that limits me so much. And the limitations don't make any sense. It's just DRM > customers. And if a producer choses that path, consumers should look at other products.
These confusions and many statements are absolutely wanted. Because it lets some people hope, other people don't care and some people wouldn't believe it.
I can only say: Do not support companies that want to dicate to you the way and the time you play your games.
ricardo_sousa11
Member
SOMEONE OPEN A BOYCOTT THREAD, NOW !
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Half-Life 3, Xbox One and PC exclusive
30%
Isn't the nature of Steam also that it is extremely likely to continue to work for many years? With PSN and Live stuff not working on the new consoles, I'd need some really convincing proof that whatever I bought this coming gen would permanently be transferable forward.
Also, GOG is better than Steam. NO DRM 4LYF
Also, GOG is better than Steam. NO DRM 4LYF
crimsonspider89
Banned
People defending the online connection are forgetting about the soldiers overseas and rural areas who can't access the cloud or are limited.
I mean, I have to use Hughesnet which has a daily limit. Not to mention is satellite.
I mean, I have to use Hughesnet which has a daily limit. Not to mention is satellite.
About what I expected.
Some of the sharing stuff across multiple consoles is nice since you don't have to actually take the game to a friends house.
Won't massively impact me, I'll probably go all digital this gen anyway.
Though, the PS2 news today might mean I get a PS4 as well. I like that game, my laptop struggles with it.
Some of the sharing stuff across multiple consoles is nice since you don't have to actually take the game to a friends house.
Won't massively impact me, I'll probably go all digital this gen anyway.
Though, the PS2 news today might mean I get a PS4 as well. I like that game, my laptop struggles with it.
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