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[gofreak]

There's no further tech detail in the first press release MS has put out, at least.

This is almost Nintendo levels of spec-vagueness. I think that says a lot, especially when what is confirmed lines up exactly with leaks.

Also, 40nm? Is that not a bit strange? I thought these were targeting 28nm (?) Maybe the eSRAM stuff isn't ready for 28nm?

 

[Meelow]

Xbox One will not function without Kinect connected, confirms Microsoft UK

...What?

 

[RdN]

This is worrisome.

 

[dragonelite]

8gb
5 billion transistors.

Very vague, I think it will pretty much conform to the rumoured specs. Honestly, funny to give transistors as a major part of the specs. I guess they had one aspect they trumpet over PS4 and decided to put that down. If they were ahead in flops they would have put that rather than transistors I reckon

That does makes me wonder where are all those transistors. PS4 was 3 billion or something.

 

[Perkel]

There goes my Forza Box. They should name it that way.

Disappointed a lot.

 

[Omni]

Seems to me like the 1.2TF rumours are real.

Also, 40nm? Isn't PS4 28nm? Welp.

Is that bad?

 

[Reiko]

Also my source said the CPU was more powerful than PS4...

*tumbleweed flys by*

 

[Durante]

All hardware leaks basically confirmed true.

Yeah, unless new information is released at E3 I think that's almost certain. Including the stuff about the GPU/memory subsystem which was not officially confirmed -- I believe that if it was better than the leak they'd mention that.

PS4 ~3 billion transistors
HD 7970 4 billion
Xbox One ~ 5 billion

Whatever that means.

It means it has a significant amount of embedded memory - not exactly news to anyone who read the leaks.

 

[Elios83]

So the leaked specs are true, they have avoided direct comparison with PS4 since they would lose.

 

[McHuj]

There's no way they made a 40nm 5B APU. I think that's just an error in the article. A 5B chip in 40nm would be north of 600mm.

 

[kharma45]

Thats alot of ports

Like the original PS3 lol.

 

[lherre]

It appears the cooling system is like the slim x360.

 

[gillFTR]

No actual specs on the shit that matters, but the camera receives photons at 200 000 lavalamps at 8.0ghz.

 

[JetBlackPanda]

what if my kinect sensor breaks ?? I can't play xbox?

 

[avaya]

PS4 ~3 billion transistors
HD 7970 4 billion
Xbox One ~ 5 billion

Whatever that means.

5bn claim is meaningless. The fact that marketing had to come up with that confirms the leaks.

 

[iamvin22]

...40nm?

Isn't PS4's 28nm?!?!?

yup. Cerny did his home work just like he said.

 

[gregor7777]

Both these systems are crazy. What a jump in RAM from last gen. Wow.

 

[coldfoot]

3 OS'es?
xzibit.jpg

 

[Waaghals]

PS4 ~3 billion transistors
HD 7970 4 billion
Xbox One ~ 5 billion

Whatever that means.

Are they quoting part of their EDRAM or something?

 

[Noisepurge]

they didnt show the powerbrick! will it be massive this time as well?

 

[woober]

Not backwards compatible with 360 or live arcade games.

 

[Kung Fu Grip]

Also my source said the CPU was more powerful than PS4...

*tumbleweed flys by*

I think you're done for.

EDIT- Ouch. I guess so.

 

[kharma45]

yup. Cerny did his home work just like he said.

40nm could be for better yields maybe and cut costs in production.

Not backwards compatible with 360 or live arcade games.

Not a surprise.

 

[Durante]

Are they quoting part of their EDRAM or something?

Yes, of course the transistor count includes eDRAM.

That's likely the reason they are quoting it -- it's one number where they look better.

 

[JaggedSac]

Perhaps most intriguing, however, is that Xbox One gives game developers the ability to access Microsoft’s Azure cloud computing platform. That leads to a few obvious and immediate applications: All your downloaded and installed games and achievements are synced to the cloud and can be accessed and played without interruption on any Xbox One you sign in to; stable, dedicated servers for every multiplayer game rather than the notoriously fragile practice of hosting matches on one participant’s console; even multiplayer matches that can grow to 64, even 128 participants, rather than the usual limit of 16 or 32.

Wired is claiming MS is letting devs host matches in their cloud platform now, wonder if that is speculation or legit.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Waiting to see the fact sheet but it look like the leaks specs were right .

 

[Matt]

True, but they can't be using DDR3 as VRAM, it's far, far, far too slow for it.

There is no separate VRAM pool. There is integrated EDRAM.

 

[Mrbob]

Paging Arthur Gies. Come join us and bring your special sauce along.

 

[majortom1981]

Would the ps4 being more powerfull matter if the xbox one was say $100 cheaper? That 8 gigs gddr5 can be awfully expensive to produce.

 

[netBuff]

Denial? wut?





True, but they can't be using DDR3 as VRAM, it's far, far, far too slow for it.



Yes. Could be for better yields maybe.

They can and they will, the leaks (now seemingly true) pretty much confirm this: The PS4 is going to have a significantly more powerful GPU (+50%) as well as a much more potent RAM solution (GDDR5).

This is the truth, everything else is denial.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Oh snap, Reiko is banned.

 

[Dead Prince]

3 OS? LOL makes sense

 

[StevieP]

Wired is claiming MS is letting devs host matches in their cloud platform now, wonder if that is speculation or legit.

It will cost extra money in that regard

 

[kharma45]

There is no separate VRAM pool. There is integrated EDRAM.

Ah, same as what Intel is doing with Haswell then.

 

[Ryoku]

True, but they can't be using DDR3 as VRAM, it's far, far, far too slow for it.

This is where the embedded dynamic/static RAM comes into play, I assume.

 

[conman]

Not backwards compatible with 360 or live arcade games.

Ugh. Ditching gamers in more ways than one...

 

[shinra-bansho]

OP is missing the most important spec: 5 billion transistors!
I think it essentially confirms a less powerful box - if they were pushing more power they would have crowed about it.

 

[Bulzeeb]

8gb DDR3 according to Engadget

so in DBZ terms how does this compares to the 8GB GDDR5 that the ps4 has?

 

[FlyFaster]

8gb DDR3 according to Engadget

ya lol,. I love how they don't specify lololol sad little xbox... one is the loneliest number...

 

[Interfectum]

cant wait to see brave 3rd parties come out and compare the two systems side by side. we could easily have another PS2/Xbox situation (but in reverse)

 

[ruttyboy]

No actual specs on the shit that matters, but the camera receives photons at 200 000 lavalamps at 8.0ghz.

Hey come on man, this is 'rocket science' level, you just don't understand it!

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

well, it seems everything is coming true. i guess the only thing missing is the always online part?

 

[Curufinwe]

Paging Arthur Gies. Come join us and bring your special sauce along.

And his $10 to settle that bet.

 

[Xplatformer]

It'll be interesting then what they do for VRAM, that 12GB figure could well come true. Wouldn't be surprised to see 4GB GDDR5 alongside that 8GB system memory.

You keep running with that...but don't hold your breadth. It'd be new to developers.

 

[Eric_S]

I just read a live blog and didn't listen in live, but there there was a mention about cod doing four more calculations per screen? If that is true(?) then that (assuming an identical framerate) would be in line with the 1.2 tflop rumor.

 

[Averon]

Reiko banned.

Is it a perm?

 

[Douche McBaggins The 3rd]

8 gbs of ancient ram? Going with PS4 next gen. Not even going to bother with the sexbox this time around. And that's after having an original sexbox and a sexbot 360. But after the shitty Thompson drives, the red rings, and them trying to take my FREEDOMS. I'm done with Microsoft. I don't care for Halo or Forza and their disinterest in my hobby makes me an unwanted consumer.

Though if they get Flight Sim back and Age of Empires 4 I may be interested yet again.

 

[Majanew]

So is it 1.2TFLOPS?

 

[phosphor112]

The 3 OS's basically confirm it being an RAM hog.

That 3GB of ram for the OS seems very plausible now.

Also, mods locked my eat crow thread even though I made one for PS4 after that was revealed.

 

[Tylahedras]

what if my kinect sensor breaks ?? I can't play xbox?

Yeah, I want to know what happens if my kinect sensor "breaks" as well.